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Title: Winston 520
Post by: dlaw on November 29, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
I was wondering if someone could point out to me where in the regs that there is a late season for Muzzleloader listed for 520.  I have looked and cannot find it, the reason I ask is because I saw a few in the woods this past weekend up there.  Thanks
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 29, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
Did you look into deer hunting and or special permits for deer or elk?? Just a thought...  :twocents:
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: dlaw on November 29, 2009, 01:49:04 PM
Yeah I looked in there and couldn't find anything for deer or elk special draws.  I must just be missing it somewhere.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: washelkhntr on November 29, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
Look on page 37 in the regs. It is even in RED. ( it is Archery )
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: dlaw on November 29, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
Yeah I was archery hunting up there.  I said I saw 3 muzzleload hunters in the woods, I was just wondering if there was a special draw or something for them to be there hunting. 
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: MooseStock on November 29, 2009, 02:19:15 PM
They actually could be cougar hunting legally if they have the tag.  I couldn't see anything else in the regs that would let them hunt otherwise but I may have missed something...........Les
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: bobcat on November 29, 2009, 05:18:13 PM
There is no muzzleloader season in the Winston unit right now, neither general season or special permit. My guess is they were lost and thought they were in the Mossyrock GMU. What part of the Winston were you in?
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: Crunchy on November 29, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
Must be the north side of the Winston near town of Mossyrock would be my guess.  Same issues last year.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on November 29, 2009, 09:30:59 PM
That happens every year.  When we see them.  We ask them if they are aware that they are in the Winston unit.  Then they turn tail and run like a whooped dog.  Hoping not to get caught by FW Enforcement.

Just proves need to know the boundaries
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: actionshooter on November 29, 2009, 09:51:08 PM
There is a spot around perkins rd that get a little difficult to decipher the boundary's, see it happen before. Is there a chance you were in Mossyrock unit?
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: trophyhunt on November 30, 2009, 06:40:45 AM
let them shoot then get evidence, 10 points..... they have been hunting in the wrong unit up there for years.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: dlaw on November 30, 2009, 08:38:04 AM
If they used the excuse they "thought" they were in Mossyrock unit they need to read the regs.  They were at the base of Green Mountain. Not the road, the actual mountain. Two days in a row, there is not grey line for that far into Winston unit.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: bobcat on November 30, 2009, 09:00:55 AM
Are you sure they were muzzleloaders?  There are permits for rifle in the Toutle and Coweeman units that would have been open at that time. They still wouldn't have been in the right unit, but close.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: 1bowhunter1 on November 30, 2009, 09:07:02 AM
Sure you some how did'nt wonder into Randell?  That is open for Muzzl/Archery  Or maybe the party you seen was lost :dunno:
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: dlaw on November 30, 2009, 09:15:54 AM
 :chuckle: Thats funny right there.  I saw where they had their car parked. 
I was watching them walk thru the timber until they were about 40 yards away when they noticed that someone had a tree stand in a tree there.  They walked over to it and looked at it then hung a fern branch on the ladder.  I was close enough at that point that I could see without any doubts that they were muzzleloaders.  Secondly I am 100 percent sure of where I was considering my parents house is only a couple miles from there.
From the sounds of it these 3 guys, two seperate groups were hunting illegaly.  Thanks for anyone that replied regarding my question if I had missed something in the regs.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: bobcat on November 30, 2009, 09:42:14 AM
I would have turned them in, for sure. Definitely no muzzleloader season there at the end of November. Actually, I bet they were hunting the general muzzleloader season in what they thought was the Coweeman unit. Or they knew where they were and just intended to play dumb about it if questioned by law enforcement.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: HntnFsh on December 03, 2009, 05:20:42 PM
That area is quite a ways from the toutle or coweeman area!
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: Houndhunter on December 03, 2009, 05:31:06 PM
if wdfw has a muzzel loader season only for lions, you can wonder where ever you want if you have a tag and not get in trouble
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: bobcat on December 03, 2009, 06:43:42 PM
That area is quite a ways from the toutle or coweeman area!

Not really. Depending on what side of Green Mtn, they may have only been 1 mile out of the Toutle unit, and around 4 miles from the Coweeman. I could see how it would be easy for some people who aren't real good with maps and haven't been to the area before to end up that far out of their unit. Not saying there's an excuse for it, just that I could see how it could happen.
Title: Re: Winston 520
Post by: jstamp on December 04, 2009, 10:36:21 PM
i know exactly where he's talking about, and it happens every year. people either don't know the boundary, or don't care. it's a huge problem. the winston and mossyrock units have way too many idiot hunters in them in elk season. not saying everyone that hunts there is, but i get the luxury of seeing it first hand every year, and i don't even hunt there.
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