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Title: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: phishisgroovin on December 03, 2009, 03:35:25 AM
I am so going to do everything in my power to have me one of these, 30 rounds in the mag?
Oh yeah  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: addicted on December 03, 2009, 04:24:28 AM
hmmmm. varmint be-gone.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: rasbo on December 03, 2009, 04:32:36 AM
that would be fun,Im thinking whole lotta jamming.. :dunno:
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: GoldTip on December 03, 2009, 06:34:55 AM
that would be fun,Im thinking whole lotta jamming.. :dunno:

I agree, but if that wasn't the case it sure would be a fun gun.  However, they ain't exactly giving away 22mag ammo, so could be a little spendy as well.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: ICEMAN on December 03, 2009, 06:41:13 AM
Very cool. Keltec makes some interesting stuff...
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: addicted on December 03, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
the slide looks really light weight so i dont think it will have trouble going through the motions while being fired.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: thinkingman on December 03, 2009, 09:08:50 AM
Very cool. Keltec makes some interesting stuff...
It is cool....Keltec is one of the most innovative manufacturers I know of.
Still want an SU2000 and SU 16.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: denali on December 03, 2009, 09:24:40 AM
very cool .... It will be a nice side arm to pack w/ my RFB.     it took a long time for KEL TEC too finally get production going on the RFB .308 (still slow )   got mine on Gunbroker.

don't be surprised if not available when they say  :(


 
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: CP on December 03, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
that would be fun,Im thinking whole lotta jamming.. :dunno:

That would be my guess too.  I’ve never seen a .22M auto that didn’t jam.  The long skinny case is hard to cycle.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: satchel3006 on December 03, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
i'm gonna have one should be the perfect trail gun
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 03, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
that would be fun,Im thinking whole lotta jamming.. :dunno:

That would be my guess too.  I’ve never seen a .22M auto that didn’t jam.  The long skinny case is hard to cycle.

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Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 03, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
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Very cool. Keltec makes some interesting stuff...

Uh, no.  Keltec.  The new Jennings!  You get what you pay for. -And .22mag in a semi-auto pistol. Jam O'matic.

You ever shot a Keltec 'anything'. I'm more accurate throwing rocks. Pimative slippery polymer with more sharp edges than an M9.

Good ankle/throw down gun for a not so honest constable.

Just my  :twocents:

-Steve
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: ICEMAN on December 03, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
My PF-9 shoots just fine...
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: hunt4 on December 03, 2009, 09:08:47 PM
that would be fun,Im thinking whole lotta jamming.. :dunno:

That would be my guess too.  I’ve never seen a .22M auto that didn’t jam.  The long skinny case is hard to cycle.
Never have had a problem with my AMT as long as i was feeding it winchester ammo somthing to do with the powder.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: Craig on December 03, 2009, 09:52:08 PM
That looks fun
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: huntnphool on December 03, 2009, 10:34:19 PM
$415 MSRP isnt bad. 30 rounds would be fun, would be a good handgun for my daughter to have fun with. I have 30 round clips for my FiveSeven but thats a little big for her to shoot right now.
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: satchel3006 on December 03, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
im curious how all you guys know that the gun is going to be a jam o matic when its not even out yet do you have some sort of crystal ball?
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 03, 2009, 10:41:41 PM
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My PF-9 shoots just fine...
 Well, I'm glad you like it.  The one's I've handled had trigger pull as long as a locomotive, and steers like 1959 VW Bug. The slappy report is like a hard tail chopper on Ballard's worst chuck hole strewn side streets.  Sorry, the few that I've had in my hand left a lot to be desired. Yes, I'm a 1911 fan. Hand me a Baretta and I'll shoot it, but I'll eventually give it back. The keltec pistols just remind me of a bunch of Lego's melted with some Bic pen springs and a twisted piece of galvanized conduit resulting in massive trigger takeup, side slop, over travel and buckshot groups at 25yds. I have snub nose revolvers that out shoot any Keltec I've had the 'pleasure' to fire.

Not to rob the thunder of the original post about this new fangled model that will supposedly feed/cycle and shoot the 22mag. If it does so, 'well', that would be cool. Really! But accuracy of 22wm in a short barrel (the cartridge is loaded for and designed for longer rifle barrels) should not be anything to write home about. For the MSRP I would stick with tried and proven 22LR pistols like the Buckmark or Ruger MKII until the reports are out, well after the shot show de'bu. I look at that pmr-30 and wonder what sort of holster it would fit. Maybe one of those Zytel speed holsters? Surely not gonna get that thing into any sort of comfortable leather.

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im curious how all you guys know that the gun is going to be a jam o matic when its not even out yet do you have some sort of crystal ball?
  I hope we're wrong! Really. But I spend a lot of time at the pistol range throughout the year. I see people shooting all sorts of firearms. I see reliability in quality arms, and I see a lot of frustrated shooters just the same. I keep an eye out for what works, and what doesn't. Certain brands.. Not just models, stand out.

This hybrid blow back/locked breech system may be inovative, but I look at it like something that's over engineered. It's got two extractor's for crying out loud.

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Never have had a problem with my AMT as long as i was feeding it winchester ammo somthing to do with the powder.
That's because the 22wm is loaded with a slow burning powder designed for use in longer rifle barrels. Some brands of ammo when fired may not develope the pressure quick enough to blow the slide back and cycle the action. The Winchester must be just fast enough to function your AMT reliably.

-Steve
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 04, 2009, 01:23:21 PM
Grendel made the P-30 from 1991-1995.  It was basically a POS.  Hopefully, Kel-Tec did their homework.  They've come out with some neat stuff over the last few years.  I have a Kel-Tec P11 as my primary summer CCW... love it!
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 04, 2009, 02:04:13 PM
Actually, it looks like the PMR-30 has a lot of the Grendel inovation. Subtle refinements in the newer model.

-Steve
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: denali on December 04, 2009, 03:37:21 PM
FAQ  information on a Kel Tec owners group forum

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1259682868/0#0
Title: Re: New Kel-Tec pmr-30 coming out soon
Post by: satchel3006 on December 04, 2009, 04:30:02 PM
the guy that designed the grendel designed the pmr 30 but from what i understand thers not much thats the same between the 2 if anything
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