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Title: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 07, 2009, 04:17:22 PM: So, what is your opinion? I have been shooting Federal Vital-Shok, off the shelf, out of the box for the past 3 years. I am happy with them, but am looking at getting into handloading this winter.
I shoot a Rem 700, in .270 Win. Looking for a good load and bullet for deer.
WHat do you guys think?
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: huntnphool on December 07, 2009, 04:21:57 PM: Nosler Partition
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 07, 2009, 04:24:18 PM: Barnes TSX BT's in 130 pushed by IMR 4350 is very consistent thru my M77 270.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: MtnMuley on December 07, 2009, 04:28:46 PM: Many will disagree, but I've had great luck with the 130 Nosler Ballistic Tip out of that gun. For ten years, that was my only rifle, and killed everything from groundhogs to bears with that bullet, and never lost a big game animal. I wouldn't recommend the ballistic tip for every caliber, but definately a 270 win. :twocents:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 07, 2009, 04:34:31 PM: Quote from: MtnMuley on December 07, 2009, 04:28:46 PM
Many will disagree, but I've had great luck with the 130 Nosler Ballistic Tip out of that gun. For ten years, that was my only rifle, and killed everything from groundhogs to bears with that bullet, and never lost a big game animal. I wouldn't recommend the ballistic tip for every caliber, but definately a 270 win. :twocents:
Neither my 7mm RM or my 338WM were very happy with the ballistic tips. Went back to Partitions. Partitions weren't happy with my 270 in various powder charges, RL19, 4831, other......Never tried the ballistic tips in the 270.
Just goes with what you say kinda, every gun is different and just got try what makes the gun happy.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: gasman on December 07, 2009, 05:09:47 PM: I shoot 140gr Ballistic tip out of my 270.
IMR4350 with 54 grains of powder :tup:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: GoldTip on December 07, 2009, 05:15:35 PM: I handload 130gr Swift scirocco's for my Dad's 270win. He took a 6point bull with it this year, a cow last year. Both of my nieces have used it to take cow elk in the last two years. None of those elk have gone further than 20 yards.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: CJ-5 on December 07, 2009, 05:23:13 PM: Dont get Hornady Interlocks. I had some handloaded for my 270 and we got a really accurate load, but they dont seem to penetrate very well.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: whacker1 on December 07, 2009, 05:25:45 PM: I have the best luck with the 140 grain Nosler accubond 52.5 grains of H4350. That bullet retains some serious weight.
enjoy the handloading.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: jdb on December 07, 2009, 05:58:58 PM: I am glad someone asked this as I am getting ready to start reloading for my .270 also, I bought a nosler reloading manual but was wondering if I was missing out by not buying other manuals? from what Ive read in my manual if I do decide to shoot nosler bullets it will brobably be the 140 grain accubond. ive also thought of buying some ballistic tips just to fling down range as theyre much cheaper then useing accubonds to hunt with.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 07, 2009, 06:22:02 PM: accubonds or my fave nosler partions will be great always preformed for me very well
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 270Shooter on December 07, 2009, 06:22:14 PM: 140 accubonds are what i shoot. But if you want 130's then I'd look into the swift scirocco II.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: littlebuf on December 07, 2009, 06:26:40 PM: you cant go wrong with either Barnes TTSX or nosler accubonds. Ive made up lots of loads in searching for the right one and these two bullets have done the best for me, Ive taken game with both and in my opinion the accubond did less damage to the meat, both make um just as dead
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: jdb on December 07, 2009, 06:28:19 PM: those scirocco's are EXPENSIVE!!! :yike: :yike: :yike:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: runningboard on December 07, 2009, 06:55:13 PM: Barnes TTSX in front of H4831Sc has proven to be the choicest of choices in my 270. like others have said though, my recipe may not do well in your barrel, search for the right recipe for "you & your gun."
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: elkaholic123 on December 07, 2009, 07:00:48 PM: 1 more vote for 140gr accubonds!I shoot them in a 270wsm and they perform flawless!Jerry
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: cascademountainhunter on December 07, 2009, 07:02:41 PM: barnes tsx tack driver
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 07, 2009, 07:26:48 PM: OMG! This thread could get long!

So many proponants of the Barnes and Accubonds. Glad you guys have money to burn. They are good bullets, don't get me wrong.

For a new reloader, go to Cabelas and get a bag of rough packaged Remington CoreLokts and you'll be surprised at how accurate they are for less than half the price of the so called premium bullets. My local gun shop also carries Nosler Seconds in bulk bin. Great value!

Personally, I believe the best bullet for any gun is the one that's the most accurate that provides the most velocity within the velocity rating for that bullet. Every rifle barrel is different. That's for a hunting bullet, not a target bullet.

For performance on Deer, I've had excellent success with Winchester Silvertips, Remington CoreLokts, Speer BT, Speer Spzr, Speer Grandslam, Sierra BT, and Hornady BT in .30cal.

What do I load for my son's .270win? Speer BT's have been very accurate. He hasn't taken anything with it yet, but I know they'll perform well on game.

-Steve
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: jdb on December 07, 2009, 07:33:30 PM: I will agree on the corelokt being accurate ive shot factory corelokt's for year and theyve shot excellent for me. and your right they are a great deer bullet. I may just give them a try ;)
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: bobcat on December 07, 2009, 07:40:30 PM: I like the Barnes TSX, any weight, it doesn't really matter. I used the 140's but 130's I'm sure would do just as good. With the Barnes you don't have to worry about waiting for the perfect shot opportunity. The animal doesn't have to be broadside. Take a Texas heart shot if that's what you're presented with. That bullet will penetrate all the way through, and doesn't ruin meat. Not only that but they're accurate, at least in my rifle they were. I have also used 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Can't beat them for accuracy. But they don't penetrate very well. I shot an antelope at 320 yards standing broadside. Hit him behind the shoulder. All the bullet hit going in was a rib, and it didn't exit. It just came apart after hitting that rib. The lungs were destroyed and he dropped on the spot. But that experience didn't give me a lot of confidence in using that particular bullet in other situations.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: MtnMuley on December 07, 2009, 07:52:17 PM: Very true statement bobcat. There's been quite a bit of wasted meat with the ballistic tips, but once again, never a lost big game animal. If he's looking for a meat saving bullet, I'd go with a bonded scirocco or acubond. However, I personally feel a .277 cal is the lowest caliber in which I'd use a bonded bullet. :twocents:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Dadbear on December 07, 2009, 07:52:54 PM: I shoot a Pre '64 Winchester Model 70 .270 featherweight when I modern firearm hunt. I realize this is a reloading question, but here's my two bits. The most accurate load I have ever put through it is factory Hornady 130 gr. spire points. When sighting in at 100 yards, I routinely put three shot groups together that can be covered with a dime or smaller. This summer I tried some Federal Noslers and had a heck of a time shooting a tight group. That 130 gr. Hornady has easily dropped critters including antelope, deer and elk. I realize lots of you may have differing opinions on bullet grain for certain game... but hopefully this will help. I think the bullet you shoot can vary in accuracy from specific gun to gun.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 08, 2009, 02:53:19 PM: Thanks guys. LOTS of great information here. (I LOVE THIS SITE)

Looks like so far I have:
6 votes for Nosler accubonds
4 votes for Barnes TSX BTs
3 votes for Nosler BTs
3 votes for Nosler Partitions
2 votes for Swift Sciroccos
1 vote for Barnes TTSX
1 vote for Hornandy Spire Points

I understand that I need to work up some loads and see what shoots best out of my rifle, but you guys are giving me a great place to start. Thanks for all the input so far, and keep it comin'! :tup: :hunter: :bfg:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 03:04:38 PM: I don't know if you're new to reloading... If so, start with cheap bullets.

There's at least two acknowledgements for Remington CoreLokts.

and..
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Winchester Silvertips, Remington CoreLokts, Speer BT, Speer Spzr, Speer Grandslam, Sierra BT, and Hornady BT
Sure, I said .30 cal, but they're fine bullets in most any caliber.

-Steve
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: bobcat on December 08, 2009, 03:05:29 PM: Another one to throw into the mix, as if you need another, is the Nosler e tip. It's new and should be similar in performance to the Barnes TSX, except that it's supposed to open up just a bit more. Which is a good thing because soemtimes the Barnes expands very little. From what I've read the Barnes will penetrate slightly more, but the Nosler makes a bigger hole. That will be my next bullet to try in my 270. I hope it shoots good as I would like to support Nosler, since they are in Oregon.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 08, 2009, 03:15:24 PM: Quote from: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 03:04:38 PM
I don't know if you're new to reloading... If so, start with cheap bullets.

There's at least two acknowledgements for Remington CoreLokts.

and..
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Winchester Silvertips, Remington CoreLokts, Speer BT, Speer Spzr, Speer Grandslam, Sierra BT, and Hornady BT
Sure, I said .30 cal, but they're fine bullets in most any caliber.

-Steve

Noted. Thanks
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: huntmando on December 08, 2009, 03:36:06 PM: Shoot what is best in your rifle. There are alot of good bullets out there you just need to find out what your gun likes the best.
For me, winchester silver tips in 130 for 270wsm and core lokts in 150 for 30-06. Happy testing
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Lowedog on December 08, 2009, 03:45:44 PM: I would shoot Rem core lokts for target but I would never hunt with them. I have seen them pancake out on an elks shoulder blade out of a rem 7mm mag. A couple years ago I bought a box for my nephew to shoot out of his .243 trying to go the cheap route. He killed a buck at about 75 yds but we did find the copper jacket on the entrance side and the lead core stuck to the hide on the opposite side. Last year I bought the Federals and we ended up with the same results. Will be reloading for his rifle from now on.

I am a big proponent of Barnes X and TSX and have had great success on animals with those bullets for years. They call them "premium" for a reason.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: jdb on December 08, 2009, 06:19:56 PM: Quote from: Lowedog on December 08, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
A couple years ago I bought a box for my nephew to shoot out of his .243 trying to go the cheap route. He killed a buck at about 75 yds but we did find the copper jacket on the entrance side and the lead core stuck to the hide on the opposite side. Last year I bought the Federals and we ended up with the same results.
we had the exact same result only in reverse we were shooting the federals and had a bullet come apart on a small buck at about 100 yards killed the buck drt but i wasnt happy with the bullet performance so we switched to the corelokt and had the same scenerio :dunno:
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Hillbilly270 on December 08, 2009, 06:30:08 PM: i didn't read through the rest of the thread but i would have to go with the barnes tipped tsx bullets. they might be touchy to reload but once you find the right one they work awesome. I used to shoot the sierras and they did the same thing........the copper would stick to the hide and the lead would schrapnel and destroy everything and i would spend hours cleaning bloodshot.....only good thing was that the deer didn't go but 10yds after they were shot.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 44 Flattop on December 08, 2009, 06:39:11 PM: I giggle when I load those expensive accubonds in my sons 270's. I was with my father in law when he killed his 50th bull elk with a .270 Winchester.

The bullet? The old 130gr Sierra BT.

Dead is dead.

44
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Crisptrigr on December 08, 2009, 06:57:37 PM: I've taken quite a few deer with the tried and true Sierra Gameking BT in 30 cal. The rifle I use the most on deer is a Sako in 308win. We've taken deer from the midwest to the northwest and those bullets always perform well within the range they are designed for. Another good point is they're affordable. Give 'em a try.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 07:07:52 PM: Quote
I used to shoot the sierras and they did the same thing........the copper would stick to the hide and the lead would schrapnel and destroy everything

I've never experienced that with Sierra's or Speers.

-Steve
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: high country on December 08, 2009, 07:11:41 PM: I have many rifles, but the 270 win is my go to. many of my hotter steppers I load "preimum" bullets in.......BUT, the 270 win was the only 277 cal cartridge that was commercially loaded, so all the bullets made are designed for its velocity window. I personally use speer hot cor btsp's in 130 gr and have killed plenty of deer and elk with them from the buck this year at just a few paces to some at LONG ranges.....it always works.

with bullets I always advise buying a bullet tough enough for your gun, but the 270win is one of a kind in that every bullet in its diameter should do fine.........now were it a 270 wby......different story.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 44 Flattop on December 08, 2009, 10:11:18 PM: Quote from: high country on December 08, 2009, 07:11:41 PM
.........now were it a 270 wby......different story.
Agreed.

44
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: fishingnut71 on December 09, 2009, 05:32:17 PM: winchester supreme ballistic silvertip in 130gr. No deer or elk shot near or far away have taken more than 2 steps after blast off. They shoot good in my gun but if your handloading it should not be a problem.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 09, 2009, 05:36:25 PM: Thanx guys. Still taking notes. Keep 'em coming....
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: 1arrowfromhotstreak on December 09, 2009, 10:34:41 PM: I am surprised. Berger is by far a reloaders dream. Not to mention they open up the range for the 270 win with the high BC of .452 for the 130 grain. The nolser partition is .416, accubond is .435. Berger are about .39 cents compared to .64 cents for barnes.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: CastleRocker on December 09, 2009, 10:55:30 PM: Quote from: JackOfAllTrades on December 07, 2009, 07:26:48 PM
OMG! This thread could get long!

So many proponants of the Barnes and Accubonds. Glad you guys have money to burn. They are good bullets, don't get me wrong.

For a new reloader, go to Cabelas and get a bag of rough packaged Remington CoreLokts and you'll be surprised at how accurate they are for less than half the price of the so called premium bullets. My local gun shop also carries Nosler Seconds in bulk bin. Great value!

Personally, I believe the best bullet for any gun is the one that's the most accurate that provides the most velocity within the velocity rating for that bullet. Every rifle barrel is different. That's for a hunting bullet, not a target bullet.

For performance on Deer, I've had excellent success with Winchester Silvertips, Remington CoreLokts, Speer BT, Speer Spzr, Speer Grandslam, Sierra BT, and Hornady BT in .30cal.

What do I load for my son's .270win? Speer BT's have been very accurate. He hasn't taken anything with it yet, but I know they'll perform well on game.

-Steve

Exactly!!! I have tried every dang bullet made and the ones that shoot the best (by FAR) in my old 270 are Sierra SPBT. Yeah, I know they come apart. But EVERY animal I have shot has gone down and died with one shot. I wish I could say that about my 340 Wby! They are also cheap enough that you can afford to go out and PRACTICE your shooting. A wise man once told me, "if you miss, it doesn't matter what kind of bullet you shoot".
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 10, 2009, 04:44:47 PM: Quote from: 1arrowfromhotstreak on December 09, 2009, 10:34:41 PM
I am surprised. Berger is by far a reloaders dream. Not to mention they open up the range for the 270 win with the high BC of .452 for the 130 grain. The nolser partition is .416, accubond is .435. Berger are about .39 cents compared to .64 cents for barnes.

OK, I am listening. But I don't understand... I have never reloaded before. What is "BC", and what does it mean?
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: whacker1 on December 10, 2009, 04:51:24 PM: In ballistics the ballistic coefficient (BC) of a body is a measure of its ability to overcome air resistance in flight. It is inversely proportional to the deceleration—a high number indicates a low deceleration. BC is a function of mass, diameter, and drag coefficient. It is given by the mass of the object divided by the diameter squared that it presents to the airflow divided by a dimensionless constant i that relates to the aerodynamics of its shape. Ballistic coefficient has units of lb/in² or kg/m². Normally BC's are stated in lb/in² by gun projectiles producers without referring to this unit.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 10, 2009, 04:58:25 PM: OK. So this translates to less drag, right? Meaning less drop? More Foot-pounds of energy when the bullet hits the target? Both?
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: whacker1 on December 10, 2009, 05:06:36 PM: and should equate to truer flight and tighter groups, but doesn't always pencil out that way based on which gun likes which barrel. I shoot a few different combinations of bullets until I find something that has tight groups. This is why I shoot the accubond. It put together the tightest group of a half dozen different bullets I have tried. I have not yet tried the Berger's in my 270 win or 300 rum, but I plan to this spring. Berger designs bullets that maintain very high balistic coefficients for the weight of the bullet.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 10, 2009, 05:16:59 PM: Quote from: whacker1 on December 10, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
and should equate to truer flight and tighter groups, but doesn't always pencil out that way based on which gun likes which barrel. I shoot a few different combinations of bullets until I find something that has tight groups. This is why I shoot the accubond. It put together the tightest group of a half dozen different bullets I have tried. I have not yet tried the Berger's in my 270 win or 300 rum, but I plan to this spring. Berger designs bullets that maintain very high balistic coefficients for the weight of the bullet.

I noticed on the "longest shot on a deer" thread that a couple of guys really like the Bergers. I have met one of these guys and have witnessed him whacking rocks at 700+ yards with a tricked out 300 RUM.
Title: Re: Best Bullet for 130 grain .270 Win?
Post by: C-Money on December 13, 2009, 12:29:54 AM: I shoot the 140 Nosler Accubonds loaded with Reloader 19 powder. Killed 3 deer with this load from my 270win this year alone. Oregon buck dropped in his tracks, so did the Washington buck, and the Pennsylvania doe ran a short distance before piling up. My vote, 140 accubond. It works well.