Post by: haus on December 09, 2009, 03:33:26 PM
edit: This is regarding archery deer hunting....why its in the bow hunting section... :P
Post by: 270Shooter on December 09, 2009, 03:34:14 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 09, 2009, 03:36:49 PM
-Steve
Post by: jdb on December 09, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on December 09, 2009, 03:39:57 PM
Edit: I just noticed this was in the bowhunting section. I don't wear one while spot and stalk hunting. I have a black one I wear in the ground blind and a camo one for treestands.
Post by: Austrian Hunter on December 09, 2009, 03:44:13 PM
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Post by: Holg3107 on December 09, 2009, 04:57:37 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 09, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
I HATE facemasks.
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 09, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
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Post by: lokidog on December 10, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Might not be necessary all the time but if it causes an animal to pause for an extra half second, it might be all I need. Also helps keep the bugs off the face during early archery and helps keep the wind off during duck season. Used to use paint but hate the greasy sticky feeling from it. I have never had a problem with the eyes not lining up. The only hassle is using a blown mouth call but you can cut a mouth hole or lift it up.
Post by: passing-thru on December 10, 2009, 12:46:12 PM
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Post by: Thefisherman83 on December 11, 2009, 12:47:45 AM
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Post by: passing-thru on December 11, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
All out top to bottom face paint, gloves and boots. I am even thinking about getting some of those camo patterned sun glasses. ;)
I've tried a couple different styles of the camo sunglasses and can't seem to find any that don't glare. I was hunting any area last year and walked up to meeting place to meet partner, he was sitting back in brush and scared the hell outta me. l His camo was blending right in but glare from sunglasses looked like an alien sitting there :yike: If anyone can suggest any that this isn't problem would love to get some
Post by: rasbo on December 11, 2009, 03:20:42 PM
Full camo head to toe especially hands and face! I wish that I could find a good camo 3 hole, old fashioned ski mask. It is not as important during rifle or muzzy season but It can be critical for archery. Just remember that your face and hand shine like a white flag (well, if you are white ;)) to a woodland critter.
Don't know if you tried this,For calling bears,I take a bug netting put it on and tie it in the back of my neck.I draw the areas I want around my eyes and mouth with a marker and cut them out.It stays in place well
Post by: haus on December 13, 2009, 09:35:11 PM
I probably go further than most for archery elk. I hunt the coast, my pasty face looks like a white paper plate if I don't camo up. My first year bowhunting I wore one of my camo duck hunting masks with just eye holes. I was deer hunting and had a bear come in upwind broadside at 20 yards. I drew, anchored, and that stupid mask shifted so I couldn't see and it cost me a perfect shot opportunity. I switched to face paint after that. I don't paint a pattern, I just dab on some green and black paint on my face and hands, then wet my hands and smear it all around so I change the tint of my skin. I use water soluble paint, so it thins out and goes a long ways, I think it helps my hands and face blend in better.
Same thing I'm doing, attempted the whole duck huntin mask deal too. Even though its thin I hate any limitation to my sense of hearing. Not exactly fast at gettin the paint on, only hunted archery bout 5 days as of today. Been using brown as a base then put the black and green on. hard to cover a big melon, even when I get all covered up my damn eyes are so big I fear they'll pick up on the white part so I squint if their close :chuckle:
Post by: hoyt77 on December 20, 2009, 03:15:25 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on December 21, 2009, 12:12:42 PM
I go with the Camo-Dust for longer hunts, if I am just going out for a short hunt I usually throw on the facemask. I prefer the Dust as I feel the mask cuts down on my hearing and visual ability (real or just in my own mind I don't know).
I should go look it up, not sure if they still even sell the Dust anymore, ben a few years since I stocked up on it.
Shootmoore
Post by: bonkellekter on December 22, 2009, 07:10:25 AM
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 11:08:15 AM
When bowhunting I wear full camo - I can't stand face paint so I wear a face net. But more important that any camo is wind direction and breaking up your outline. I killed my first archery bull at less than 4 steps no face cover but the wind was good and my outline was broke up by a big pine tree. But when a bull or buck is staring you down I think the full camo goes a long ways.
had a couple deer that got the jump on me and tried the "you don't see me" blacktail defensive routine. When I saw them I just stopped and stood there, it seemed they had a hard time making me out against the backdrop of tree's. They did something I'd never seen....turn their head slightly like their not interested then they snap back real quick as if they're trying to get you to move, kinda entertaining to watch.
Post by: Dipsnort on December 22, 2009, 12:12:50 PM
had a couple deer that got the jump on me and tried the "you don't see me" blacktail defensive routine. When I saw them I just stopped and stood there, it seemed they had a hard time making me out against the backdrop of tree's. They did something I'd never seen....turn their head slightly like their not interested then they snap back real quick as if they're trying to get you to move, kinda entertaining to watch.That actually is quite common when they know they are looking at something that might be a threat but they can't figure out what it is. It's an excellent tactic for them to use because they know a predator is likely to make a move in their direction when they look away. In my experience they will do that when they can see you but can't hear or smell you.
If you are unprepared for a shot without movement it's best to remain perfectly still (and that includes not diverting your eyeballs) until they have tried their trick a few times and have become more comfortable and think they don't have a threat after all. This is especially true if you are in heavy cover and they are likely to disappear in a single bound if your movement gives you away.
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 03:29:47 PM
......until they have tried their trick a few times and have become more comfortable and think they don't have a threat after all....
shaaa I had this young doe stand there for 15 minutes and do this, was about 40yards, she won. I couldn't take it anymore :'( , didn't want to shoot her anyway but I had to see how long she'd hold just for the heck of it. so happened to check the time just before that so no exaggeration lol.
Post by: Clumber on December 22, 2009, 03:47:12 PM
Camo from head to toe, had a doe at 15 yds. she didn't know I was there until I moved a bit then she just looked for a while and walked off:) Pretty cool! I even have camo sunglasses and pony tail holders/headband!
Post by: coonhound on December 24, 2009, 01:01:27 PM
Coon
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 24, 2009, 01:18:22 PM
Post by: lokidog on December 24, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
had a couple deer that got the jump on me and tried the "you don't see me" blacktail defensive routine. When I saw them I just stopped and stood there, it seemed they had a hard time making me out against the backdrop of tree's. They did something I'd never seen....turn their head slightly like their not interested then they snap back real quick as if they're trying to get you to move, kinda entertaining to watch.
Had a doe come running down through an icy open stand once and stopped 3 feet from my gun barrel looking at me. She did the head turn, stomping thing but I was able to outlast her, even with the gun up. She eventually started nibbling on some greens and finally wandered away. Pretty Cool!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 25, 2009, 12:03:48 AM
I wear a gray elephant mask under my camo pants so they don't see me pee.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Shootmoore on December 25, 2009, 09:33:20 AM
I wear a gray elephant mask under my camo pants so they don't see me pee.
Took two cups of coffee this morning till I got that one!
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Shootmoore
Post by: Teachers Pet on December 26, 2009, 02:24:27 PM
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Post by: haus on January 04, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Full camo. Open patterns like Realtree AP, Realtree Extra Brown, Predator Deception (green), some Multicam too. I think the Realtree Max-1 is my favorite though - nice open pattern with enough green to work on the wet side. I carry a Primos mesh 3/4 face mask in my side pocket on my pants. Quick to throw on. I like the mesh because I sweat to death no matter what I'm doing. Make sure and practice with it on so you know how to adjust it when you put it on. I twist mine a little to the left for archery so I can see down my nose unobstructed. I always wear a booney hat too - keeps the sun and rain off of you and breaks up your outline a little more. I wear a bandanna around my neck in a different pattern than my shirt to help break things up too. I like the Primos and Cabelas stretch gloves for early season too. They were like iron. Everything on my bow camo'd too, down to hitting the the stainless fasteners with a brown or green sharpie. I've gone as far as to camo the straps on my packs since in the not to distant past they all came in black. Now it's not as big of a deal since a lot of manufacturers have caught on and use more natural colors now.
Would like to wear my boonie hat, but in my opinion it reduces your ability to hear. Seems to amplify the sound of your own movement, limiting your ability to hear low sounds in the distance. Course if its raining, on it goes. So I usually have it with me. Maybe it just depends on how you prefer to hunt, terrain, etc :dunno:
Post by: Cylvertip on January 06, 2010, 11:31:20 AM
Full camo. Open patterns like Realtree AP, Realtree Extra Brown, Predator Deception (green), some Multicam too. I think the Realtree Max-1 is my favorite though - nice open pattern with enough green to work on the wet side. I carry a Primos mesh 3/4 face mask in my side pocket on my pants. Quick to throw on. I like the mesh because I sweat to death no matter what I'm doing. Make sure and practice with it on so you know how to adjust it when you put it on. I twist mine a little to the left for archery so I can see down my nose unobstructed. I always wear a booney hat too - keeps the sun and rain off of you and breaks up your outline a little more. I wear a bandanna around my neck in a different pattern than my shirt to help break things up too. I like the Primos and Cabelas stretch gloves for early season too. They were like iron. Everything on my bow camo'd too, down to hitting the the stainless fasteners with a brown or green sharpie. I've gone as far as to camo the straps on my packs since in the not too distant past they all came in black. Now it's not as big of a deal since a lot of manufacturers have caught on and use more natural colors now.
Would like to wear my boonie hat, but in my opinion it reduces your ability to hear. Seems to amplify the sound of your own movement, limiting your ability to hear low sounds in the distance. Course if its raining, on it goes. So I usually have it with me. Maybe it just depends on how you prefer to hunt, terrain, etc :dunno:
Haus, I would agree that it will amplify any sound you make while moving. But when your stopped, it should help amplify any thing out in front of you as well, kind of like a satelite dish on your head. :chuckle: I feel it helps funnel the sound to the big dumbo ears I got hangin off my noggin :dunno:
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Post by: haus on January 11, 2010, 10:50:20 AM
And as always, mud from where you are hunting is the best "shine duller" for your face and skin.
Washington Oregon Fish and Game ran an article several years ago about a native american guy that teaches a class on stalking big game using traditional tribal methods. One of the main subjects was the use of camo, his specific method was a paste of fire ash mixed with dirt and some pine needles, leaves, etc. This guy talked about getting close enough to deer that he pulled hairs off..... :yike:
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Post by: haus on February 08, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
Full camo. Open patterns like etc, etc, etc, etc,.....some Multicam too.
the biggest thing to worry about in my opinion is the camo pattern.i really hate the ole mossy oak and realtree kind of camo.i like ASAT predator even optifade mountain mimicryAlright so off the how much concealment subject and onto the what camo pattern is best all around for this state.....most of my gear is variations of standard Woodland Camo pattern, and some max-1 pants. Would like to try multicam, anyone know a somewhat affordable source?. Interested in Naturalgear. Not sold on ASAT and Predator, seems so bold, but there sure are a lotta hunters that swear by it. What do ya'll think of the Optifade and Mothwing?
Post by: sisu on February 10, 2010, 03:32:48 PM
I'm not one of them I have real nice wool camo jacket, WWII wool pants, brown Pruvian alpaca wool hat with big long ear flaps(I might look like a lost dog). BTW I don't like hot or warm weather so I quit hunting WA early season, in fact this past year hunted only Montana. I "likes" it cold!
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 13, 2010, 05:50:17 AM
There is a cadre of traditional archers not using any camo any more and having success in taking deer, elk, caribou, and moose.
I'm not one of them I have real nice wool camo jacket, WWII wool pants, brown Pruvian alpaca wool hat with big long ear flaps(I might look like a lost dog). BTW I don't like hot or warm weather so I quit hunting WA early season, in fact this past year hunted only Montana. I "likes" it cold!
As a poor young white trash archer (not trad) and turkey hunter, my go-to ensemble for years was blue jeans, a brown buffalo plaid quilted flannel shirt, and a yellow on green John Deere baseball cap. But I've had all the cool stuff for years now.
I don't think the pants and jackets/shirts make a lick of difference. I do find real advantage in covering up my shiny face and hands - and these days, my increasingly shiny head probably too.