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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 10:47:41 AM

Title: What do you do with them?
Post by: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 10:47:41 AM: I'm thinking about trying my hand at coyote hunting... but what do i do with them once I kill one?

Also any advice you can give to a novice would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: EastWaViking on December 15, 2009, 10:55:54 AM: you can skin them and tan the hides, or leave them lay.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: batch on December 15, 2009, 11:20:28 AM: i keep the tails laying around till the wife makes me throw them out
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 11:30:22 AM: Quote from: EastWaViking on December 15, 2009, 10:55:54 AM
you can skin them and tan the hides, or leave them lay.

Then what? I know people use deer skin for gloves and such but other than trophy quality what could these be used for?

Thoughts on best type of call you use on the wet side?
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 15, 2009, 11:54:38 AM: I hate skinning the slimy little buggers, but I need a good tanned Yote hide on my wall. I kept a really nice tail from last year. I split it and took the flesh out. No smell at all. I might use it as part of a decoy later. Otherwise, leave'm lay. You're helping keep the eco system in balance. They bread like Rabbits and pester farmers. Bait... (did I say that?) for other vermin. Crab bait!

-Steve
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: jdb on December 15, 2009, 12:03:02 PM: I give'em a good kick and try not to break my arm pattin myself on the back ;)
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Gutpile on December 15, 2009, 12:04:55 PM: Skin them out if they don't have any mange and call Cascade Biological Supply to sell them. Then turn these.........

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Into..........................

Be sure to cook it medium rare or it's tough.
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Or this, which happens to be a YAR favorite.
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YUMMMMMM!
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: rasbo on December 15, 2009, 12:10:08 PM: A smart yote killer will roll on the carcass,this will attract other yotes and fend off pesky people and those the care for you
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Gutpile on December 15, 2009, 12:14:53 PM: Quote from: rasbo on December 15, 2009, 12:10:08 PM
A smart yote killer will roll on the carcass,this will attract other yotes and fend off pesky people and those the care for you

That too!!!!
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: EastWaViking on December 15, 2009, 12:21:27 PM: Quote from: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: EastWaViking on December 15, 2009, 10:55:54 AM
you can skin them and tan the hides, or leave them lay.

Then what? I know people use deer skin for gloves and such but other than trophy quality what could these be used for?

Thoughts on best type of call you use on the wet side?

Hang one one the wall or throw it over the back of the couch in the trophy room. Once you get a couple tanned ones, just leave them for the magpies.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 01:31:41 PM: Cool Thanks for all the info guys.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 15, 2009, 01:36:30 PM: It's such a waste to leave them lay. You should take the time to skin them, flesh them and stretch them. Then do a couple of things, either sell them at a fur auction, pays for your ammo and gas. Or have them tanned and sell them for quite a bit more. It's not that much work.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: chrisb on December 15, 2009, 01:57:48 PM: where can i find a fur auction? what kind of prep needs done to the hide to sell it at auction... and how much $ are we talking about?
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: rasbo on December 15, 2009, 02:09:45 PM: 8 to 15 dollars for an odor hound...
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 15, 2009, 02:45:33 PM: Seattle has an auction. Skin, flesh and stretch. Hang onto them till later in the winter, probably bring around $15-$25 a piece. Once you do a few hides they are not that much work and worth $20ish. Get them tanned for around $35 and sell them for $75 and up.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 15, 2009, 05:54:57 PM: skin the ones that i dont blow to big a hole in but if the hide gets pretty damaged or it has mange i drag them to a inconspicuous place such as under some sage or chuck them in a draw. the people that own some of the land i hunt love to see them gone just dont want to see them rotting.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: washelkhntr on December 15, 2009, 06:03:22 PM: Quote from: jdb on December 15, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
I give'em a good kick and try not to break my arm pattin myself on the back ;)

:chuckle:
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: stumprat on December 15, 2009, 07:51:18 PM: Quote from: jdb on December 15, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
I give'em a good kick and try not to break my arm pattin myself on the back ;)

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: AWS on December 15, 2009, 10:08:01 PM: I skin, strech and dry them and send them to the tannery. The good ones I save to sew into vests, mittens, etc,(my wife wants a throw) the small and off colours get sold for wall hangings and souveniers. I use Moyles in ID http://www.moytown.com/. There is http://www.fursforfun.com/ and USA Foxx http://www.usafoxx.com/fur-tanning-pricelist.htm

Here's a few back from the tanner, just out of the box and need to be combed yet
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AWS
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 15, 2009, 10:10:30 PM: Nice AWS!!
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: AWS on December 15, 2009, 10:30:19 PM: Here's a cheap fix for a tinny speaker.

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I sewed a four pannel padded cover for this JS Speaker, camoed it and really mellowed the sound.

AWS

SORRY WRONG THREAD.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: littletoes on December 20, 2009, 09:05:13 AM: OK, I like the hear from ANYONE that is/has sold any fur.

I've been getting the fur report for a few years now, and its been saying that fur is just not selling for crap. 'Yote hides that are not very large, nor light colored are just not bringing more than $5.

If your selling them for more than that, LETS SEE. And if your doing it regularly, that would be even cool-er. We have some big 'yotes here in Washington, be nice to have a local buyer....there isn't one over here anymore, and shipping over to the wet side would kill our profits.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 20, 2009, 09:02:25 PM: This is the prices being paid at the end of last winter. I would not sell any furs until later in the season. Western coyote furs were averaging $30 with a top of $170 being paid. Your not going to get squat for them unless you take time to skin, flesh and dry properly, patch holes and such. It's a little work but worth it for 8 to 10 weeks a year. Also your not going to make hardly anything if you sell them to a local furbuyer. When I get the flyer for the Western WA Fur Auction, I'll make sure I post the information here.

http://www.furfishgame.com/fur_auctions/nafa_02_22_09.php
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 20, 2009, 09:17:00 PM: http://www.furharvesters.com/pdf/marketforecast0910.pdf

Forecast for wild furs:

December 12, 2009
Wild Fur Market Review
Last year at this time things started to fall apart in the financial world. A full year has passed now and
things are not back to normal: however, there have been improvements and it seems interest, as well as
the much needed confidence, is beginning to return to our business.
Having just returned from Russia and spent time with customers and visiting many fur shops, I can say
business remains difficult but sales are picking up as winter has finally arrived. The months of fall are so
important as these are the top months in fur coat retail sales. Russia experienced a fall that was milder
than normal and this impacted on an already difficult market. Yet fur is so highly regarded and loved
by the Russian people that there is no question once their economy strengthens people will begin to
purchase again. Russia`s oil prices have climbed back up to acceptable levels and this will certainly help
stimulate confidence along with their strengthening ruble.
China has been the one place where the fur trade has continued to roll along in a positive manner. The
months of October, November and December are said to be the coldest ever, and with snow coming early
as well in the key centers such as Harbin, Beijing and Shenyang, has helped in realizing very strong retail
sales. China is the largest buyer of ranch mink and sales are very strong even now, and this will transfer
over into certain wild fur items. This is definitely the case with muskrat as calls into this office have been
heavy over the past month from current and new customers from China.
The Beijing Fur Fair is one of the world`s largest and FHA will once again be attending and participating
at this important venue. For the past several seasons we have been able to draw new customers through
our effort at this fair, be it the seminars we give, or by greeting the many hundreds that stop by our booth
daily.
There have been some recent bankruptcies and closures that have affected the trade, with one very
recent bankruptcy hitting all the world’s auction houses with some being in the MILLIONS of dollars.
We are happy to report FHA was hurt with only a few hundred dollars in losses by this. Our policy on
responsible business practices and goods being paid in full before shipping is what keeps us financially
grounded during all times. This facility is 100% free and clear. Owning one’s real estate in times like this
is a godsend if compared to those tied to huge leases and mortgages. Financial strength and stability
is tested from time to time and being the largest isn’t what gets you through, it’s remembering who you
represent and are working for, and applying responsible financial decisions at all times and avoiding risks
that get you through such times.
It is our shippers in times like this as well that are needed as production always falls off in down
markets. FHA sets the stage once again this coming January 9th 2010 with the first wild fur offering to the
world. Ship with pride and sell with confidence in knowing the vast majority of the staff here are trappers
themselves and respect each and every shipper no matter how big or small.
Wishing all of you a very Merry Christmas and New Year.
Respectfully,
Mark Downey
Chief Executive Officer
Beaver
A short catch is predicted and this, combined with low inventories at the manufacturing level, should
help this struggling article. North Bay has always been considered the source of the world’s finest
beaver and when price increases occur, it will begin with FHA. Castoreum will remain at the highest
levels since the late 80’s.
Muskrat
FHA’s previous prediction of increased prices for this item is being further pushed upwards by the
positive retail sales in China due to the extremely cold fall they have encountered. We STRONGLY
encourage trappers to target this article.
Otter
Prices are expected to continue moving upward as many manufacturers continue to see tremendous
value in this item.
Marten (Sable)
Fur Harvesters Auction’s superior collection continues to bring industry leading interest and results for
our shippers. Expect the greatest demand for the darker, heavier skins.
Fisher
Fisher has always been highly regarded as a trim item, and interest is expected to improve in line with
improved interest for European ranched fox (trim).
Wild Mink
Clearances and prices will start to recover as ranch mink sales are strong.
Raccoon
At this point we have seen little sign of recovery. However, the heavier sections should start to see
interest as other trim species such as ranch blue and silver fox have been doing better lately.
Coyote
Demand for the better quality skins from the heavy western sections as well as heavy eastern. Low
grades will likely continue to have little commercial value.
Red Fox
Expect good demand for heavy and semi-heavy sections of eastern Canada and northeastern U.S.
Centrals and westerns will sell at lower levels.
Wolves
Arctic and northern wolves handled specifically for the taxidermy trade will once again command high
prices. Commercial grades and skins prepared without claws will sell at a much reduced level.
Wolverine
Like wolves, pelts prepared for the taxidermy trade will again this season bring high prices.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: littletoes on December 24, 2009, 03:36:25 PM: Thanks for the Reports! Sell any recently Machias?
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Machias on December 24, 2009, 04:21:04 PM: Probably won't until Feb or Mar.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Holg3107 on December 24, 2009, 04:43:10 PM: Not sure how it works here in WA, but growing up in colorado i had a taxi that would pay me $40 for coyotes whole. Not skined or anything, i would just put them in a garbage bag in my freezer and once i had 10-12 yotes I would make the 1 hr drive to grand junction and drop them off and he would pay me $400. Doesn't sound like the market is that good anymore though. good luck, it wouldn;t hur to find a tannery or a taxi in the area and see if they are interested, you may find someone who is in need. otherwise crows seem to love them.
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: Bofire on December 24, 2009, 04:55:17 PM: Western wa. coyotes and Colorado or even E. WA. yotes are different critters.
over here the hides are ugly in general.
Carl
Title: Re: What do you do with them?
Post by: rasbo on December 24, 2009, 05:00:01 PM: I would suggest not selling to the raw fur market till prices rise.A letter I read in trapper predator suggests we will keep the market low selling low.Find other resources to sell and use other parts of the animals.skulls,skeletons coon rods.It was a good read..