Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 12:08:31 PM
I'll update if anyone knows any bows that I missed, also any info where the blanks are woudl be helpful.
Quite a few bows as you can see, now actually being able to try some of them before you buy.....might need a few plane tickets :chuckle:
MARTIN Shadowcat
41.5" ATA
7.5" BH
32"? DL
50-70lb DW
4.7 LBs
80% adjustable LO
320-325 IBO
$?
http://www.martinarchery.com/2010web/index.php (http://www.martinarchery.com/2010web/index.php)
APA Black Mamba XL 7.0
37.25" ATA
7" BH
32.5" DL
50-70lb DW
4.3 LB
75% LO
88.81KE
338 IBO
$?
http://www.apaarchery.com/ (http://www.apaarchery.com/) - Their Mamba 7.5 go's to 31.5" and new '10 Viper XL 31.5"
NBA Cyborg
37.5 ATA
7.5" BH
31.5" DL
50-70lb DW
3.9 LB
65%-80% LO
330 IBO
$?
http://www.newbreedarchery.com/ (http://www.newbreedarchery.com/)
MAITLAND Zeus*
37.5" ATA
7.125" BH
32" DL
40-70lb DW
? LO
65%-80% LO
318 IBO Measured with Easton bow force mapper chronograph.
$?
BEN PEARSON Advantage
37.5" ATA
7 5/8" BH
31.5" DL
50-70LB DW
4.1LB
55-80% LO
327-318 IBO
$799
http://www.benpearson.com/ (http://www.benpearson.com/)
MATHEWS Conquest Triumph
39" ATA
7" BH
32" DL
40-70LB DW
4.6LB
65%,80% LO
325 IBO "up to"
$1200
http://mathewsinc.com/ (http://mathewsinc.com/)
ELITE XLR
37" ATA
8.5" BH
32" DL
50-90lb DW
4.25 LB
312-320 IBO
$?
http://www.elitearchery.com/ (http://www.elitearchery.com/)
HOYT Contender, Contender Elite, Vantage Elite, Vantage Pro, Vantage LTD
4 different limb and cam combo's for the Contender's
2 for the Vantage's, except the Vantage LTD only 1.
Contender's and Vantage's;
38.125" - 41.75" ATA
6.625"-8" BH
31.5-34" DL
30-70 LB DW
4.6-4.8 LB
301-315 IBO
$?
www.hoyt.com (http://www.hoyt.com)
Vantage
45" ATA
8" BH
34" DL
30-70LB DW
5.2 LB
271 IBO
$?
MISSION Voyager
34" ATA
7" BH
31.5" DL
40-70lb DW
4.45 LB
323 IBO
$649.00
http://missionarchery.com/ (http://missionarchery.com/)
STROTHER Inspire
36.5" ATA
7.375" BH
31.5" DL*
?-70lb DW
? LB
? LO
330-338 IBO
$?
http://www.strotherarchery.com/ (http://www.strotherarchery.com/)
*this bow isn't up on their sites yet, haven't found any confirmation of specs
ALPINE Silverado Yukon & Ventura & Ventura Target
36.5" ATA
7.375" BH
32" DL
60-70lb DW
4.3 LB
80% LO
324 IBO
$735.79 for Yukon or Ventura. $756.84 for the Ventura Target
http://www.alpinearchery.com/ (http://www.alpinearchery.com/)
BOWTECH 101st Airborne 2008 Model
36.5" ATA
7.25" BH
31.5" DL
50-70lb DW
4.1 LB
89.86 KE
332-340 IBO
$?
http://www.bowtecharchery.com/ (http://www.bowtecharchery.com/)
*Hey its my list... ;)
HOYT Maxxis 35
35" ATA*
8.25" BH
32" DL
40-90lb DW*
4.2 LB*
318 IBO*
$?
*Only confirmed BH and DL with Hoyt, other specs are from the standard Maxxis 35". The longer draw option is obtained via a different limb system, longer, I was told XTS1000 limbs.
www.hoyt.com (http://www.hoyt.com)
BOWTECH Sniper
34.125" ATA
7.75" BH
32" DL
60-70lb DW
75.67 KE
65-80% LO
304-312 IBO
$?
PSE Vendetta XL
35" ATA
7.25" BH
32.5" DL
60-70lb DW
4.1 LBs
75% LO
328-320 IBO
$679.99
http://www.pse-archery.com/ (http://www.pse-archery.com/)
ANDERSON BOW COMPANY Thunderhawk and Crow XL
http://www.andersonbow.com/ (http://www.andersonbow.com/)
DARTON ARCHERY Pro 4000GT
http://www.dartonarchery.com/ (http://www.dartonarchery.com/)
LIMBSAVER DZ-36
http://www.limbsaver.com/ (http://www.limbsaver.com/)
CARBON TECH Phantom & Pursuit
http://www.carbontecharrows.com/ (http://www.carbontecharrows.com/)
Quite a few more than I expected!
Post by: let.it.fly on December 22, 2009, 12:15:55 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
Shootmoore
Post by: boneaddict on December 22, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 12:33:59 PM
mission eliminator... 500-600. u can order the 32' cams. got mine at outdoor imporium. awsome bow. im not a 32" but i am every bit of 31 and they said they could order the cams if needed
interesting, thanks. Wonder if any of the other manufacturers have an option like that on some of their bows.
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 12:36:36 PM
I am just happy to see someone else built like an orangutan! 31 1/2 here and when looking at bows for sale this year I was noticing that they are all short draws. Guess I will keep shooting the PSE Fireflight and purchase my new longbow.
Shootmoore
least we can pull off the "i'm just a tree" routine if the deer bust us :chuckle:
Post by: Gringo31 on December 22, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 22, 2009, 12:52:30 PM
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 01:22:12 PM
I have a long draw and shoot a 3 inch loop. It works for me....:dunno: hrm, glad it works for you, but how the heck do you aim? Set your anchor point? Strings not any longer so all 3" would have to go to your pulling arm, if not then your draw length was too long in the first place, no? I'm newbie, just asking because I see this as being the opposite of what I've been told thus far, but I guess if it works for you then thats all that matters right. :)
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 01:30:37 PM
like said you can always use a bit longer loop my wife used a loop that was 2" for about a year it dose not hurt your accuracy and is a great option to look at
as in my previous post I don't understand this equation. What I've experienced thus far is too short of a draw requires that you either move you head forward to anchor or you bend your arm or you use a very unique anchor and aiming point, at which time the loop would serve its purpose equally. I'm new so probably have this way off base, but this certainly would have an impact on my bow selection so I'd like to understand. I've seen much debate about this 'dloop=increased draw length and/or makes up for not enough draw length available' subject and it seems there are varying schools of thought on it.
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 01:39:39 PM
like said you can always use a bit longer loop my wife used a loop that was 2" for about a year it dose not hurt your accuracy and is a great option to look at
as in my previous post I don't understand this equation. What I've experienced thus far is too short of a draw requires that you either move you head forward to anchor or you bend your arm or you use a very unique anchor and aiming point, at which time the loop would serve its purpose equally. I'm new so probably have this way off base, but this certainly would have an impact on my bow selection so I'd like to understand. I've seen much debate about this 'dloop=increased draw length and/or makes up for not enough draw length available' subject and it seems there are varying schools of thought on it.
They are using the release or possibly the thumb technique as an anchor point instead of a nock position. I shoot fingers but use my thumb in the same position each time to set my anchor point. The extended loop is just an extension of the release. Although it would feel awkward to me having the nock forward of my face it should not create much of a difference in accuracy if your anchor point is the same each time.
Shootmoore
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 22, 2009, 01:44:45 PM
and like shootmoore said i shoot back tension release aids/ thumb relase t handles/ trigger style/ and fingers as well.
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 01:56:16 PM
k wew wasn't off base, was gonna club a certain someone for feeling me full of nonsense if I were :chuckle: So it's not unique then, I've only been shown and seen setting anchor by utilizing the string or something of that manner so long as your eyes are close to the peep. Wouldn't having your eyes set back from the peep have its drawbacks much like iron sites on a rifle?
They are using the release or possibly the thumb technique as an anchor point instead of a nock position. I shoot fingers but use my thumb in the same position each time to set my anchor point. The extended loop is just an extension of the release. Although it would feel awkward to me having the nock forward of my face it should not create much of a difference in accuracy if your anchor point is the same each time.
Shootmoore
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 22, 2009, 01:59:45 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Shootmoore
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 02:15:34 PM
the string is just a bit farther away from the eye so usally you just have to shoot a bit bigger peep....and it makes sense to me now because of this, which is what I was looking for.
As for the rest of your post; I said whatever works for you is what matters in my first response did I not? At 6'7" you don't think I don't have an understanding of this? lol, it is the way of life when your my height for just about anything, including archery; it sux but is what it is, less I start choppin' stuff off :chuckle:
I have a 30" Reflex Grizzly at the moment, I make it work, first bow, good buy, cheap full setup, no point to go all in when your testing the waters, wanting to see what you like/dislike. It's not ideal due to the draw and I have to compensate for it and that compensation can increase the probabilities of throwing off my shot much more than if I were using a 32" draw, regardless of whether I shoot 10,000 arrows through the thing don't matter, thats just plain physics. If you think that doesn't apply to you then your just crazy ;) I don't care how much crap you've slung :chuckle:
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 02:16:56 PM
As Carp said consistency with archery is the key. An exaggerated example would be instinctive shooting and drawing your anchorpoint back to your right nipple. As long as you shot it the same way every time and your anchor point was the same everytime you could learn with repetition to shoot accurately. Why we dont shoot that way is keeping everything in line from target to eye is easier for the brain to compute.
Shootmoore
:chuckle: nice example
regarding the original reason for my post, what do ya think of that APA? Looks like I'd have to make a trip down to Longview to check one out though.
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 02:21:50 PM
I am just happy to see someone else built like an orangutan! 31 1/2 here and when looking at bows for sale this year I was noticing that they are all short draws. Guess I will keep shooting the PSE Fireflight and purchase my new longbow.
Shootmoore
least we can pull off the "i'm just a tree" routine if the deer bust us :chuckle:
Oh yea and at least your 32" draw is consistant to your height! I'm only 5-11. Try finding longsleeve shirts for a guy 5-11 with the same wingspan you have? I dont have to bend over to scratch my knees I guess!
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
i have not had that problem as far as far as having your eye farther away. i almost think it helps makes the pins seem smaller because they are farther away.
Thats interesting, I'll have to try that when I get the new bow. :)
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 02:33:12 PM
Oh yea and at least your 32" draw is consistant to your height! I'm only 5-11. Try finding longsleeve shirts for a guy 5-11 with the same wingspan you have? I dont have to bend over to scratch my knees I guess!
:lol4: so I'm guessing your bow choice is even more limited in that you need a 32" draw with at least a low 30" axle to axle? Or does it matter to you?
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 02:35:18 PM
Oh yea and at least your 32" draw is consistant to your height! I'm only 5-11. Try finding longsleeve shirts for a guy 5-11 with the same wingspan you have? I dont have to bend over to scratch my knees I guess!
:lol4: so I'm guessing your bow choice is even more limited in that you need a 32" draw with at least a low 30" axle to axle? Or does it matter to you?
Don't matter to me really, I prefer longer axle to axle as they seem to be more forgiving and god knows I need al lthe forgivness I can get. I shoot 68" recurves and 68 to 72" longbows.
Shootmoore
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 03:03:42 PM
I'm with ya on that, my grizzly is a 37", I'm surprised at times how well it makes up for my umm....less than sniper shooting stability :rolleyes: Learning to navigate through the westside brush with a compound is a bit interesting at times though :DOH:
Don't matter to me really, I prefer longer axle to axle as they seem to be more forgiving and god knows I need al lthe forgivness I can get. I shoot 68" recurves and 68 to 72" longbows.
Shootmoore
Post by: littlebuf on December 22, 2009, 04:35:22 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 22, 2009, 04:45:12 PM
Post by: littlebuf on December 22, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
since you are a new haus if i were you go to a pro shop and get fitted right and see what you shoot the best. and not have to guess and order a bow that won't fit. :twocents:
:yeah: go have a pro set you up. its a lot of money to spend and you want it right
Post by: IronMike on December 22, 2009, 05:13:04 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on December 22, 2009, 05:41:05 PM
I found the Bowtech Sentinal was a good shooter for long armed guys like us. :dunno:
They make bows for guys that look like a T-Rex!!! little short arms.
you know what they say about guys with long arms!! :IBCOOL:
Kris
Post by: haus on December 22, 2009, 09:56:47 PM
I have a 33" draw and I shoot Darton bows, if you can find a bow shop out here that carries them check out the Pro 5000 2 1/2 cam, I absolutely love mine.
Shop listed in Olympia on the Darton site, alpines around at several spots, apa's the one that I'll have to do some drivin for.
since you are a new haus if i were you go to a pro shop and get fitted right and see what you shoot the best. and not have to guess and order a bow that won't fit. :twocents:
have ;) pro shops though....need a little more independent knowledge rather than go in there blind and come out broke, know what I mean? ;) Good to hear whats worked for others and some of the options that are available, didn't hear much of that at the proshop's, go figure. lot of upselling though :rolleyes: Looks like I'll have to do some drivin' to test out the few models that are available at 32". 32",standard loop, with my cobra release hooked on feels the best and gave the best results so far.
Post by: xXx Archery on December 23, 2009, 05:25:47 PM
Post by: JBar on December 24, 2009, 05:38:05 AM
Post by: haus on December 24, 2009, 04:44:32 PM
I would look at the PSE Vendetta XL 35" ata goes from 26.5 to 32.5 draw with 7.25 BH and 328 IBO speed all for only 679.00
cool thanks xxx. didn't catch that on their site, says 31", pdf says 32.5"...odd.
axe 7's close also, 31 1/2"
Post by: xXx Archery on December 24, 2009, 05:53:00 PM
I would look at the PSE Vendetta XL 35" ata goes from 26.5 to 32.5 draw with 7.25 BH and 328 IBO speed all for only 679.00
cool thanks xxx. didn't catch that on their site, says 31", pdf says 32.5"...odd.
axe 7's close also, 31 1/2"
yes I think the Vendetta XL will be better for the 35" ATA ...and the resale of the bow is better with 7" of draw range.
one of my hunting partners has a 32" draw and its hard to find bows for you guys ...most shops don't want to stock them for you to try.
if you have any more ?'s you can call me at the shop.
thanks xXx Archery
Cory
Post by: elitehunter on December 28, 2009, 11:47:39 AM
Post by: haus on December 28, 2009, 03:42:56 PM
Check out the soon to be released Strother Inspire, it will be available in 32" draw.
ty sir :) interesting learning about products from the smaller manufacturers, finding someone that actually carries them and isn't outside of Everett-Olympia is different story :chuckle:
Post by: haus on February 01, 2010, 09:54:37 AM
original post updated 8)