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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: JH on December 23, 2009, 08:29:44 PM

Title: Bi-pods
Post by: JH on December 23, 2009, 08:29:44 PM: Thinking about getting a bi-pod for my r-15 but am not sure on what height to go with. Do you guys have them, how do you like them and what height did you get?

Thanks Jason
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 23, 2009, 08:36:57 PM: in my opinion it would only make a heavy gun heavier and really tough to shoot off hand. i love my r-15 and am good with it off hand, a bi pod would screw it up. get some sticks and strap um to your pack :twocents:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: actionshooter on December 23, 2009, 08:47:39 PM: I only have a bi-pod on my AR for vermin, I have 2 a 6-9 and I have used a 13-23 in the past.
Don't carry a bi-pod on my big game rifle for the same reasons littlebuf gave.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: Jburke on December 24, 2009, 12:39:07 AM: It depends on whether you are shooting from a sitting position or laying down. Sitting you will need at least the 13-23, maybe taller depending on how tall you are. Shooting prone, the shorter version will be fine.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: JH on December 24, 2009, 12:51:03 AM: Yeah this is not for my big game rifle I do too much hiking to pack around a bi-pod on it. I like that idea littlebuff of just getting some shooting sticks and throwing them on the pack.

Thanks for the input
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: addicted on December 24, 2009, 03:06:34 AM: 6-9 for prone and bench. bigger one for sitting up. like varmin calling.

back in my day...... :chuckle:

got a harris bipod at walmart a few years ago for like 39$. i think the same one sells for 70$. the prices have been sky rocketing. they have been "improving" i guess. they put notches on the legs and now it can lean. i like having it to set my gun down anywhere when i go to take a pee in the woods. lol
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 24, 2009, 05:37:17 AM: Having used a bi-pod for years on my hunting guns, I would say go for it. I use one that goes from 7" to 12". Does not make the gun any heaver or hard to shoot off hand. I have how ever made some great shots using it. I use them for my kids guns too.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: CoryTDF on December 24, 2009, 06:16:52 AM: If you do a search you will fins several threads on bi-pods. That said I would go with the Versa-Pod. You will not be disappointed. It is a little heavy but it is detachable and can swivel. This helps a lot when try to track a moving animal.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 24, 2009, 09:42:28 AM: Quote from: Miles on December 24, 2009, 05:45:15 AM
Quote from: PA BEN on December 24, 2009, 05:37:17 AM
Does not make the gun any heaver or hard to shoot off hand.

Must be one of the new "no weight" ones... ;)

um yeah, id like to know where i could get a bi pod that adds no wieght to the rifle :o
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 24, 2009, 10:09:53 AM: Big fan of shooting sticks here. HardCorpsHunter gave me a neat set with a belt sheath, each stick is 3 sections of shock-corded aluminum, they straightenout and snap together as they are pulled out of the open-topped sheath. Less than a second to deploy, lighter than a bipod, give 30" down to nothing just by spreading the legs. they are secured at the top with one rubber o-ring around two rubber o-rings, one half each of the pair goes through the doubled o-rings.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: Bofire on December 24, 2009, 10:36:15 AM: In trying both for in the field use, When I have to shift where I am pointing (coyotes never come the way I think they will) I find it easier to shift with sticks then a bipod, the bipod catches on the brush more for me. I can either remove the rifle from the sticks and shoot from my knees or move the sticks and a little "butt scootin" LOL
Carl
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: rasbo on December 24, 2009, 10:48:07 AM: I don't use any sticks or bi pods.Just more stuff for me to pack.Haven't had a problem before needing them :dunno:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: MtnMuley on December 24, 2009, 01:04:10 PM: Shooting sticks, versa-pod, or snipe-pod for varmint hunting. Why, because these listed ones detach and can swivel from side to side. Myself, I never leave home without some sort of bi-pod or sticks........ever. :twocents:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: Woodchuck on December 24, 2009, 01:32:43 PM: I use a bi-pod on my big game guns and the dual pupose 7mm (does a nice job on yotes) my primary is an original m77 .338 so not real light, doesnt bother me with the weight and does not cause an issue with off hand shots and with the legs down feels more solid to me than across the pack :dunno:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 24, 2009, 02:35:13 PM: i guess the real consideration would be is the extra weight worth the benefit. for me no, i hike a ton and cut as much weight as possible. stumps are free and i don't have to pack them around, there already where I'm going. if you don't get to far from the truck maybe its worth it. i still think your off hand shooting will suffer. especially those quick shots that are often the reason your shooting off hand. :twocents:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 24, 2009, 03:09:11 PM: Quote
It depends on whether you are shooting from a sitting position or laying down. Sitting you will need at least the 13-23, maybe taller depending on how tall you are. Shooting prone, the shorter version will be fine.

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I don't use any sticks or bi pods.Just more stuff for me to pack.Haven't had a problem before needing them

Um, sitting or laying down.. The military has been shooting quite well without shooting stix or bipods for quite a while. I would say, learn how to properly shoot in sitting, standing and prone positions. Lets see... I've used the vee in a tree branch more than once. I've leaned against a tree to make a shot. And I've learned how to use a sling to shoot better off-hand groups out to 200m. I do understand that 'prone', hunting doggies and other vermin might not be the most comfortable way to glass and stalk, so I would say that any old set of straight stix with a cord tied between them would function quite well. Maybe not adjustable, but they'd be a whole lot lighter and cheaper than a mounted bipod.

-Steve
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 24, 2009, 04:37:12 PM: Wow, I've heard it all. You boys work of a living? Or are you office jockeys? A little bi-pod adds tooo much wt/to your gun :dunno: You've got to be kidding right?
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Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 24, 2009, 06:02:03 PM: some of us actually leave the road :dunno:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 24, 2009, 07:35:50 PM: Quote
Or are you office jockeys?

Them's fightin words!

I may sit at a desk 9-5, but that's by choice so I still have a body that functions later in life. The Navy and Industrial operations took a little bit of toll on my body. I'm in pretty damn good shape. Just ask my athletic sons, and TESTAR77 or STRUTNRUT1984. I'll go up a mountain with day pack on faster than many men my age. I'll put on more miles in a day than probably half the people on this site. Away from roads! Unfortunately I usually hit a different road series when I leave one.

I forgo the bipod so I can keep packin the 7 1/2" Super Black Hawk. (accompanying the rifle) Choices.. That's all. I love my truck, but I can't always take it with me.

And what the hell? A left handed Ruger? Damn!

-Steve
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 24, 2009, 07:48:30 PM: Quote from: littlebuf on December 24, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
some of us actually leave the road :dunno:
When you step out of your truck to take a piss :chuckle:
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Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 24, 2009, 08:01:17 PM: i forgot you union boys useally have some one else to do the work for ya. what is the Davis bacon rate for a rifle Carrier these days?
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 25, 2009, 05:26:47 AM: You called me a road hunter first :bdid: Did that one sting a bet? ;) BTW, I wouldn't put a god afoul long bi-pad on my gun. I carry shooting sticks in my pack. My pack without my gun on my moose hunt was over 40lbs. Water, food, video camera, game bags, had it all.
Another BTW, when your lights go out these Union boys get after it. If a Union lineman gets killed in a storm restoring power, maybe you can tell there family they were paid to much. O and the Cops there Union also. IBEW all the way. ;)
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 25, 2009, 06:09:42 AM: Nice moose Ben. Now when the power goes out, come out to the North Fork first please! grin...

Harris bi-pods are too heavy for my likeing, throws my rifles balance off. I like the pole cat sticks, think I have 3-4 pairs, various heights.. Been looking at the snipepod though, looks like you can take it on and off easy..
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 25, 2009, 10:21:54 AM: yeah you'll get it fixed right after break, i wont hold my breath :rolleyes: and i didn't call you a road hunter :hello:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: CoryTDF on December 25, 2009, 10:29:16 AM: Everybody road hunts! On the way to and from your spot. If your trying to say that if you saw a monster while driving and it was on land that you could hunt. You wouldn't jump out and shoot it? Lets not have the road hunter fight cause we all have done it.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 25, 2009, 11:48:40 AM: Quote from: littlebuf on December 25, 2009, 10:21:54 AM
yeah you'll get it fixed right after break, i wont hold my breath :rolleyes: and i didn't call you a road hunter :hello:
Worked 31 hrs strait restoring power after the snow storm(NOV. 06) only break we took was going between jobs grabbing quick food and coffee, off for 6 hrs put in another 24 strait. The wind storm of DEC. 06 worked 27 strait off 6 back at it. These two storms alone went on for days. After we got our lines back up we went out to help the PUD. Nothing more satisfying then getting cheers from people who have been out of power for days when the lights come on at 3 am after working all night to get it back. Missed out on the late bow hunt for deer that year. :jacked:
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Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 25, 2009, 12:00:16 PM: :jacked: break time :chuckle:
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Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: MtnMuley on December 25, 2009, 12:03:20 PM: Where do you live littlebuf? Cause with talking like that, you can sure bet that you won't get your lights turned back on if I'm working the storm again. You can count on it. ;)
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 25, 2009, 12:08:05 PM: well at least theres something i can count on from the union :hello:
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 25, 2009, 12:10:24 PM: Good one :hello: Hope you had a great Christmas ;)
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: littlebuf on December 25, 2009, 12:34:37 PM: you too pa merry Christmas
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 25, 2009, 03:13:08 PM: Damn folks.. Calm down!

Union, non-union banter belongs in a different thread. The office jockey and manly outdoors work don't add up to a bipod on a rifle either.

I believe that shooting stix and bipods were sensationalized by hunting show sponsors. You've all been sold something not necessary by subliminal messaging. The only hunter that really needs that solid of a rifle rest is the long rang game hunter. Shots taken under 300yds should be taken with shooting skill to include as much rifle rest as possible with given terrain/vegitation.

One of my rifles weights more than 9 1/2 pounds. You'll never see a one pound bipod on it. I don't care who you are, a 10 pound rifle gets heavy after a full day in the woods. (as long as you don't use the sling)

-Steve
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: PA BEN on December 25, 2009, 04:09:58 PM: I have a 6x24x50 on my M77. I use it as a spotting scope, the bi-pod comes in handy. Long shots and when I sit in fields there great. Mine comes on and off EZ. If you don't want to hunt with one they are great for bench shooting.
Title: Re: Bi-pods
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 27, 2009, 02:09:49 PM: just with all other hunting gear its a matter of personal preference. as been stated earlier some guys dont like them because they add weight to their rifle that they feel is unnecessary becasue they either have a different stabalization method like shooting sticks or they use natural rests like stumps and braches.

i personally like a rifle mounted bipod like my harris because around wenatchee where i do almost all of my hunting im usually in a wheat field or sage brush scab land where there isnt much to use for a rest. and i use it even in situations under 100 yards because when i pull the trigger on an animal i want to make sure that i make a good shot. yes i practice shooting but when theres a big old buck staring at you or a coyote is coming in at mach 2 towards your call adrenaline kicks in and i like the extra stability

steve