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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Romulus on December 24, 2009, 01:50:36 PM

Title: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: Romulus on December 24, 2009, 01:50:36 PM: Does anyone know what the motivation was to have those new rifle rut hunts with one tag Sept 21-25 in each draw unit. Seems like a way for the state to set a precedence of season for trophy hunting which they could parlay into money. If you look at Utah and all the tags that are sold and the money created it does not take much of reach to have someone suggest selling unit tags for this season as auction type tags like Utah does. If you figure what they could make on each unit it could be a definite shot in the arm revenue wise with few animals being harvested. I know most wont like it but the conservation groups would love it if they got a piece of the pie. The way the state has added raffle and auction tags over the past few years I wonder if this could be in the works?
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: huntnphool on December 24, 2009, 02:01:50 PM: $5.00 per entry = a load of revenue!!!
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: SkookumHntr on December 24, 2009, 02:02:08 PM: My guess is wdfw is trying for more hunt oppurtunity and to increase draw odds on the normal hunt dates :twocents:
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: winshooter88 on December 24, 2009, 02:07:48 PM: The legislature authorized 15 new raffle and auction hunts combined,all of this authority has been used to set up 5 new raffles involving all the authorized tags. They will be 5 multi species raffles. At this time there are no plans that I know of for any of the rut hunts to be converted to raffle or auction hunts. This is current as of the last Game Management Advisory Council meeting in December.

Respectfully
Dave
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: MtnMuley on December 24, 2009, 02:43:45 PM: Quote from: Romulus on December 24, 2009, 01:50:36 PM
Does anyone know what the motivation was to have those new rifle rut hunts with one tag Sept 21-25 in each draw unit. Seems like a way for the state to set a precedence of season for trophy hunting
To provide a guy like me with 17 points the chance to strike gold 8)
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: Ridgerunner on December 24, 2009, 03:06:46 PM: 17 points, choose carefully, sometimes I think guys with that many points are just plain unlucky.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: MtnMuley on December 24, 2009, 03:18:13 PM: Quote from: Ridgerunner on December 24, 2009, 03:06:46 PM
17 points, choose carefully, sometimes I think guys with that many points are just plain unlucky.
I put in for 1 hunt only. Honestly, I don't plan on drawing. Doesn't bug me too much at all to see "not selected". When I do draw, I will actually be a little sad. Gonna be a long time getting up to that many points again. ;)
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: bowhuntin on December 24, 2009, 03:24:57 PM: Quote from: Romulus on December 24, 2009, 01:50:36 PM
Does anyone know what the motivation was to have those new rifle rut hunts with one tag Sept 21-25 in each draw unit.

I thought it was because archery hunters were taking more mature bulls with their special permit hunts than modern special permit holders were. So this hunt was to help even the odds.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: MtnMuley on December 24, 2009, 03:30:29 PM: Personally, I think it was a good idea. Keep a few more rifle hunters interested in applying and not overcrowding the archery draw tags. After all, it is only 1 animal per gmu. Kind gesture out of the WDFW???.......Doubt it, but let's hope.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: gasman on December 24, 2009, 08:15:04 PM: I like the new tag but what pisses me off is they shortened the archery season to accmidate the 1 tag >:(

So the many have to suffer for the few :bash:
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: THINK_N_ELK on December 24, 2009, 08:38:41 PM: Quote from: gasman on December 24, 2009, 08:15:04 PM
I like the new tag but what pisses me off is they shortened the archery season to accmidate the 1 tag >:(

So the many have to suffer for the few :bash:

Plus the dates for the draw units were changed to match general season. Was looking forward to hunting the 3rd week of Sept. in the Toutle, this year. Then they go and change it. :( Still a fun unit to draw.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 28, 2009, 06:00:07 PM: Quote from: gasman on December 24, 2009, 08:15:04 PM
I like the new tag but what pisses me off is they shortened the archery season to accmidate the 1 tag >:(

So the many have to suffer for the few :bash:
:yeah:
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: banannaclip on December 30, 2009, 09:55:43 AM: if you have 17-points you should be good for a double draw,special permit two seasons in a row ,wow 17 years unbeleivable thats just wrong ,should not go more than7-points to be successful draw.and thats too long.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: Romulus on December 30, 2009, 01:49:02 PM: There must be poacher points because max points are less than 17.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: SkookumHntr on December 30, 2009, 01:57:21 PM: :yeah: Next year after applying 15 is what the max guys will have so ya that guy has poacher pts or is counting wrong.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: spikehunter on December 30, 2009, 07:18:13 PM: I thought the 1 tag was to apease the modern firearm hunter, to be able to hunt the rut. As for the money part hell ya it's a money maker, but where does that money go ? Please tell me it does not go to the general fund , where gov.quagmire can give it away !!!
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 30, 2009, 07:30:09 PM: money hungry mothers, look at the money they made of the new cougar draw. they are just doing it to get more out of our pockets. there is going to be some dollars dropped on them draws and they know it.
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: MtnMuley on December 31, 2009, 08:01:12 AM: Quote from: banannaclip on December 30, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
if you have 17-points you should be good for a double draw,special permit two seasons in a row ,wow 17 years unbeleivable thats just wrong ,should not go more than7-points to be successful draw.and thats too long.
I drew a bull tag in 03, and with the help of a few scum to the hunting society, I was able to obtain another 10 pts. rather quickly. ;)
Title: Re: New rifle rut hunts
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 31, 2009, 06:01:12 PM: Quote from: MtnMuley on December 31, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
Quote from: banannaclip on December 30, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
if you have 17-points you should be good for a double draw,special permit two seasons in a row ,wow 17 years unbeleivable thats just wrong ,should not go more than7-points to be successful draw.and thats too long.
I drew a bull tag in 03, and with the help of a few scum to the hunting society, I was able to obtain another 10 pts. rather quickly. ;)

Congrats!!!!!