Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: elksnout on December 29, 2009, 07:06:21 PM
-
Do not know much about any caliber other than a 30-06 which I've used exclusivly the past 30+ years. What is the difference between a 35 Whelen and a 35 Remington ? Just finished reading an old hardback hunting book and it's sparked my interest.
-
.35 whelen is a .30-06 necked up to accept a .358 bullet. .35 remington a less powerful cartridge that's usually chambered in lever actions. both are more than capable of taking any big game in this state, you'd probably want to keep it within 200 yards with the remington though.
-
I keep a Remington 760 pump in 35 Rem. back in WI for deer hunting, 200gr bullet at 2000fps. it's a great rig for that country, fast handling(like levers) and just a hammer on deer under 150yrds, most shots are under 75 yrds.
I have a nice Rem bolt action out here in 35 Whelen, 250gr at 2500fps and 225gr at 2700fps quite accurate and more than enough for elk and bear out to 300yds or so.
AWS
-
Ive been thinking of a remington model 7 .358 win.
-
The model seven doesn't come in 358 unless you rebarrel one BUT it does come from the factory in 350 Rem Mag about the same as the 35 Whelen and they have it in a standard rifle and the Mannlicher stock from the custom shop.
http://www.remingtoncustom.com/HunterGrade_7CustomMS.aspx
AWS
-
Ruger chambered their Hawkeye in 35 Whelen in the past and they currently chamber it in 358 Winchester. They dont list the Whelen in their catalogue anymore but im sure you can find a new one somewhere.
-
So.... do the manufacturers still sell rifles in these calibers ? sounds like you guys give the nod to the Whelen ?? And on a note about Remingtons 760 pump. What a sweet rifle !! My son carrys his grand dad's that I used to use also. It's a 30-06. Light, smooth and fast handling. That rifle has taken alot of Washington game. For the life of me I never understood why they weren't more popular.
-
So.... do the manufacturers still sell rifles in these calibers ?
Yes they do.
-
Elksnout
If you go east 1500 to 2000 miles they are like peas in a pod, it's probably the best seller in PA for a deer rifle. Ranges back there are allot shorted, there is much more pressure allot of shots are at running deer(hunters complain when there aren't enough hunters in the woods to keep the deer moving). There are allot more group hunts where people will drive a area of woods to standers waiting for the deer to run past or the drivers jump them out of beds. Also still hunting is quite popular, slowly sneaking through the woods trying to catch sight of a deer before they see the hunter, again moving shots and fast handling rifles are the ticket and the 760/7600 handles just like the 870 or shot gun they use most of the year.
In the west distances are greater, people can glass canyons and hillsides, game isn't pressured and most shots are standing or walking animals. Even on the west side here allot of the deer hunting is done in clear cut as the forest is almost too thick to hunt on foot.
AWS
-
If I remember right, Roy used a 35 Remington.......
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbearhunter.jpg&hash=d97a4c976f53b274a85f79d0930ebf0ac361725e)
-
So.... do the manufacturers still sell rifles in these calibers ? sounds like you guys give the nod to the Whelen ?? And on a note about Remingtons 760 pump. What a sweet rifle !! My son carrys his grand dad's that I used to use also. It's a 30-06. Light, smooth and fast handling. That rifle has taken alot of Washington game. For the life of me I never understood why they weren't more popular.
Not to threadjack.... I have a Rem 760 30-06 (from WI originally) out west I think your shots are more likely to be off a rest, it is hard to maintain a sight picture while pumping after shooting off a rest. My only rifle elk was in CO at about 400 yards, lost him after the first shot while cycling the action. Luckily it didn't matter as he was down ten yards away. As far as range of shots, doesn't matter, it's being able to get the second shot off at that moving deer running through the woods back east. :twocents:
My dad shoots a .35 Rem and loves it in WI but switches to his -06 or .300 Win mag when hunting out west because of the increase in potential long-range shots.
-
Do not mean to hijack the thread, but 760s are very good western guns.
My mom and dad shot nothing but 1st run 760s (my dad's has a serial # that puts it in the 1st 1000 ever made). Both in .300 Savage.
The below picture, is one days hunt in Montana, out towards the Missouri Breaks.
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10700/Hunting_Pics_9.jpg)
-
Wow, I hope they didnt try to squeeze all of those bucks under the hood of that bug. :chuckle:
-
NEAT huntbear! Not a hijack at all, if so, hihack more of my threads would ya. Thats a great picture and nice that it has history with it.
-
Wow, I hope they didnt try to squeeze all of those bucks under the hood of that bug. :chuckle:
Nope, got tied across the top of the hood.
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10700/Hunting_Pics_16.jpg)
-
Thats great, I love it. Who needs a great big 4x4 to go deer hunting anyways?
-
Cool pics guys, thanks for postin!
Elksnout, 35's rock!! The whelen is quite a bit more than the 35 rem. Check out the 358 win, and the 350 mag as well, both great short action bull and grizz smashers. Got my eye on a 673 350 right now, just ain't jumped on it yet. Later
-
No problem on the pics. I have seen days, the wheels rubbed on that bug, from all the weight.
Back to subject though, I have always thought the .35 Whelen was finally a non magnum long action cartridge that lived up to expectations. Used the powder efficiently, and put the smackdown on big game. Of course, I am biased, cause I like the .338-375 range of cartridges for elk and bigger game.
-
Got my eye on a 673 350 right now, just ain't jumped on it yet. Later
Do it, you'll love it. I bought mine back when they were first released and really like that rifle. I've taken a bear and a deer with it so far. It'll be my Moose gun if I ever get drawn. It's also my Elk gun till I decide to go ML. It's a different looking rifle with the rib but I strive to be different and I really do like that thing.
-
I keep a Remington 760 pump in 35 Rem. back in WI for deer hunting, 200gr bullet at 2000fps. it's a great rig for that country, fast handling(like levers) and just a hammer on deer under 150yrds, most shots are under 75 yrds.
I have a nice Rem bolt action out here in 35 Whelen, 250gr at 2500fps and 225gr at 2700fps quite accurate and more than enough for elk and bear out to 300yds or so.
AWS
:yeah:
I have done some recent research on these two cartridges myself. I would like a 35 Whelen some day for another elk gun.
-
Got my eye on a 673 350 right now, just ain't jumped on it yet. Later
Do it, you'll love it. I bought mine back when they were first released and really like that rifle. I've taken a bear and a deer with it so far. It'll be my Moose gun if I ever get drawn. It's also my Elk gun till I decide to go ML. It's a different looking rifle with the rib but I strive to be different and I really do like that thing.
Oh, I'm hopin she'll be there when I get home from vacation in Feb. Commander wouldn't be too happy if I dumped 7 bills on a shootin iron before we spend 10 days in Maui. If its available upon return, I'll let you know how she shoots. grin....
-
$700 may be a bit high. I just searched gun broker and there's a 350 Mag available for $500.00 NIB. There's also a used one for close to $800 so apparently prices do vary. Just wanted to let you know but I think you should be able to find one for less than $700.00.
-
I've shot the .35 cal for 35 years, from .357 to the .35 Whelen. I can't say enough good about the 700 CDL in .35 Whelen I have right now. Way less than $700 and a dandy rifle.
44
-
35 whelen is a rockin' round. if you really want to tango go peek at the 358 norma mag.
-
35 whelen is a rockin' round. if you really want to tango go peek at the 358 norma mag.
Elk slaying round there, but dang the shells and even brass are hard to come by anymore. Buddy has one, he searches on a weekly basis for brass, and or shells. Just so he can keep stocked up for reloading.
-
35 whelen is a rockin' round. if you really want to tango go peek at the 358 norma mag.
Elk slaying round there, but dang the shells and even brass are hard to come by anymore. Buddy has one, he searches on a weekly basis for brass, and or shells. Just so he can keep stocked up for reloading.
norma or whelen? whelen is gravy.....30-06 with a 338 sizer pass and then 35 pass.....done.
-
Cool picture.
You wouldnt make it far down the road like that anymore and a cop would be ticketing you.