Post by: chrisb on January 01, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 01, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
Post by: chrisb on January 01, 2010, 08:35:07 PM
Post by: littlebuf on January 01, 2010, 08:35:56 PM
Never heard anything positive about those airweights. I do know that they have more recoil than a standard frame.....and for a lady???
recoil doesnt mean much when your defending your self. and most ladies dont want to lug around a heavy gun just because it will cut down on the recoil the few times she will probably shoot it at the range.
Post by: high country on January 01, 2010, 08:36:22 PM
Post by: littlebuf on January 01, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
Post by: high country on January 01, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
the airweights are pretty rough on the recoil no doubt, but if you load them right with light bullets they are gravy to practice with.....add some snort to your cary loads and you will have agun thatis a pleasure to carry and packs a walop
Post by: littlebuf on January 01, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 01, 2010, 08:43:52 PM
recoil doesnt mean much when your defending your self. and most ladies dont want to lug around a heavy gun just because it will cut down on the recoil the few times she will probably shoot it at the range.
[/quote] If that's case you might as well go with the biggest caliber airweight their is.
Post by: littlebuf on January 01, 2010, 08:45:15 PM
If that's case you might as well go with the biggest caliber airweight their is.
recoil doesnt mean much when your defending your self. and most ladies dont want to lug around a heavy gun just because it will cut down on the recoil the few times she will probably shoot it at the range.
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agreed i would carry the 357, but thats a lot more expensive
Post by: high country on January 01, 2010, 08:47:12 PM
If that's case you might as well go with the biggest caliber airweight their is.
recoil doesnt mean much when your defending your self. and most ladies dont want to lug around a heavy gun just because it will cut down on the recoil the few times she will probably shoot it at the range.
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prolly not. my 450 would buck so hard it would pull 300gr and up bullets even with a lee factory crimp die......that sum bitch was evil bad.....especaily loaded with 360gr hardcast beartooths
Post by: kbyers on January 01, 2010, 08:50:33 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 01, 2010, 08:50:54 PM
Post by: high country on January 01, 2010, 08:54:49 PM
That sounds like the "stopper" I need under my bed, high country! :yike:
I would suggest you borrow one before you buy one.......I used to be all about big nasty hard kicking guns, but that thing was a trip to the orthpedic surgeon waiting to happen.
Post by: Gutpile on January 01, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
Never heard anything positive about those airweights. I do know that they have more recoil than a standard frame.....and for a lady???
What do you mean? It's a great pistol. You don't have to load ultra hot +P loads. It doesn't kick as bad as a KelTek 9mm. I love mine, fits right in my pocket and carries great. I've never heard anything bad about them other than recoil with +P but if that is a concern don't use +P ammo. :twocents:
Mine's a S&W 642. Same as the one pictured but without the laser grip. I do plan on getting one.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hunt101.com%2Fdata%2F549%2F103810_thumb.jpg&hash=aab40fba60580bcd70a447348c6dc51a758a9bf4)
Post by: chrisb on January 01, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
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Post by: AWS on January 01, 2010, 10:53:48 PM
AWS
Post by: Shootmoore on January 01, 2010, 10:59:41 PM
Best gun in the world isn't worth spit if you dont have it when you need it.
Shootmoore
Post by: taylorpz on January 02, 2010, 08:21:40 AM
The one to get is the one she will shoot to get profficient with. The one she will carry and the one that will go bang when you need it to.Excellent advice. First rule of a gunfight is to have a gun.
Best gun in the world isn't worth spit if you dont have it when you need it.
Shootmoore
Don't know if anyone recommended it yet, but it would be worth the money to find a range where they rent guns and she/you can try out a few. Gun isn't worth anything if she won't spend a little time at practice and she won't carry it.
I've owned a variety of smaller guns and carried them extensively (backup as a cop in both uniform and plainclothes as well as off-duty). I prefer Smith's. The 640 is the all-steel 5-shot that can handle magnums and is a decent shooter, but it is heavy (relatively). The 642 (Airweight) is lighter but more of a handful to shoot (for practice) because of that reduced weight. The 300-series (Titaniums) are super-light and absolutely suck to shoot.
If you're not overly committed to a revolver, I would also check out the Kel-tec product line. They make super-compact autos in .32, .380 and 9mm. I think they're a lot of value and reliable shooters (plus American-made). Very portable.
The cold reality is no one gun can do everything. You have to find your balance point between operability, lethality, concealability and portability. But it still comes down to the most awesome cannon isn't very helpful if its sitting at home or you consistantly miss with it or can't keep it ready to fire.
Post by: MikeWalking on January 02, 2010, 08:44:03 AM
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The Charter Arms she liked is like $350ish and i even saw a Taurus for like $450. So why is the Smith $700 even without the crimson trace grips?
The S&W wont fall apart after a few boxes of ammo like my Taurus did.
Charter Arms? Heard'em compared to doorstops. What's 300+/-$ if it breaks the one time your life depends on it? :twocents:
Post by: MHWASH on January 02, 2010, 08:55:27 AM
Post by: Buckmark on January 02, 2010, 09:28:46 AM
My other half has a S&W J frame ladysmith you can have her shoot if you want, there is a range near us in arlington, Aimpoint, not sure if they have rentals.
Post by: Shootmoore on January 02, 2010, 09:35:56 AM
Its never had a fail to fire or malfunction with 1000's of rounds down the pipe. Very forgiving in the maintanance department. I consistantly shoot low to mid 500's in the 60 round 600 possible PPC course. Its a struggle, for me anyways, to even shoot a qualifying score with a 5 shot snubby. Another nice thing about the 26 is if you have the option of carrying a Glock 17 mag as a second giving you an additional 17 rounds with a 2 round extension on the 26 mag that gives you 13 rounds loaded with a second 17 as backup.
Just some thoughts on different options. My first post is still the main things to consider in my opinion
Shootmoore
Post by: demontang on January 02, 2010, 09:42:18 AM
Post by: MikeWalking on January 02, 2010, 11:29:54 AM
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Supprised noone said ruger sp101. They are a great gun for the money. I will say smith makes some of the nicest revolvers.
Good Point. I had an sp101 in .357 Still kicking myself for selling it and the S&W629 and....oh ouch.. :'(
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 02, 2010, 11:46:22 AM
The Ruger LCR is very impressive on the range. Very comfortable to shoot, my 10 y.o. son enjoyed shooting it (standard velocity wadcutters). It definitely barks with +P, but still handles well. I was able to shoot sub-3" 5-shot 7yd groups and 7" 25 yard groups first outing (standing, 2 hand hold, no rest); rapid-fire was worse but still acceptable - and lethal - at both ranges. With more practice I expect to tighten those up by 1/3 to 1/2.
Post by: Gutpile on January 02, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
The Charter Arms she liked is like $350ish and i even saw a Taurus for like $450. So why is the Smith $700 even without the crimson trace grips?
They're not. I paid $420.00 or so for mine in stainless at White Elephant in Spokane.
Post by: Huntbear on January 02, 2010, 01:13:55 PM
Post by: chrisb on January 02, 2010, 02:55:48 PM
The Charter Arms she liked is like $350ish and i even saw a Taurus for like $450. So why is the Smith $700 even without the crimson trace grips?
They're not. I paid $420.00 or so for mine in stainless at White Elephant in Spokane.
According to the S&W website they start at $640 and go up from there.
Post by: Gutpile on January 02, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
Post by: Gutpile on January 02, 2010, 03:54:02 PM
Supprised noone said ruger sp101. They are a great gun for the money. I will say smith makes some of the nicest revolvers.
Me too. I was going to buy one in 327 mag but couldn't find one. It's a bit bigger than the S&W642 but definately worth a look. Better choice than a charter.
Post by: rasbo on January 02, 2010, 03:56:26 PM
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Post by: yorketransport on January 02, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
I know that this goes against the logic that everyone should shoot their carry gun until they can hit quarters at 25yds blind folded, but not everyone who carries is a "shooter". Some people just don't have the time, money, or desire to shoot that often. For them, I don't think that they would really notice the difference between a Charter Arms, Taurus, Smith, or Ruger.
Andrew
Post by: Bofire on January 02, 2010, 07:57:07 PM
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Post by: mazama on January 02, 2010, 09:34:26 PM
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