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Title: Little Help Please
Post by: squeeze2drop on January 10, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
Alright guys, i just got my weapons permit, looking to buy a pistol, just a good beginner one, somethin to get used to, ive only owned rifles and shotguns my whole life, so this is new to me, i dont really wanna spend more than $350, i was curious what i should take a look at, i realize 350 isnt a whole lot, but again, im not lookin to buy the best gun on the market, i went into some stores to price and of course everybody has me lookin at $600 and up guns, so if anybody can help a beginner out with some advice on where to look, or what to look for id appreciate it, thanks guys!
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: ArtistNhunter2 on January 10, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
Where are you located? Buy a used revolver. Good, easy to handle and safe for a beginner. Try pawn shops, you'll find something in your price range.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: squeeze2drop on January 10, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
i am in yakima, ya ive thought about pawn shops, im just kinda scared cuz i dont the know history of the gun i guess??
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: jackelope on January 10, 2010, 09:45:55 PM
you can get the serial # and run it through the local p.d.

i had a ruger speed six 4" 357 mag that i thought was a good 1st pistol for me. it was in great shape. i paid 350 for it. i have since sold it for the same price. something like that would be good.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: coop2424 on January 10, 2010, 09:51:28 PM
you can get the serial # and run it through the local p.d.

i had a ruger speed six 4" 357 mag that i thought was a good 1st pistol for me. it was in great shape. i paid 350 for it. i have since sold it for the same price. something like that would be good.


Completely agree that would be a great starter gun since you could put 38's or 357 through it.  38's are pretty cheap and not so much kick but you could work up to the 357...  :twocents:
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: ICEMAN on January 11, 2010, 06:30:30 AM
Start with the revolver! Less expensive, easy to learn with, reliable.  :tup:
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: rasbo on January 11, 2010, 06:34:39 AM
357 double action,you can shoot 38s out of it also...
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: thinkingman on January 11, 2010, 09:45:18 AM
Check Gunbroker for SW mod 64's.  Under $300 and a great starting point.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: high country on January 11, 2010, 09:52:18 AM
agree on the revolver. a 4" barrel can be concealed and is legal to hunt with. 357 is a good choice for the reasons mentioned. ruger is pretty solid and can be had for the $ you are talking. taraus treated me well on the one I owned, but surely less refined then a smith or colt.....but in you price range.

I would avoid import autos and ruger autos.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: Shootmoore on January 11, 2010, 10:10:28 AM
I have to agree with the .357 wheel gun for a first handgun.  Allows the use of .38's which = less recoil, allowing for more concentration on shooting fundimentals with the option to go to .357 for carry.  (I suggest also practicing with the .357 before carring as well).

Also a revolver imo is a safer design for your first firearm while learning safe handgun skills.

Also learn to shoot a handgun, but more importantly learn safe handling skills with it.  Do to the much shorter length, I see time and time again people using poor firearms safety with handguns.  Even persons who have handled long guns and do so safely, end up breaking those very important rules with a handgun. 

The #1 violation I see is Never point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.  We call it "lazering"  and it tends to happen alot with the much shorter barrel of a handgun.  There is not that visual "clue" of the longer barrel of a rifle with the handgun.  To many times I see people handling handguns lazering themselves and others because there mind is not extending the barrel to where the round will travel if there is an Acidental Discharge.

One drill I use is placing dowls about 4 feet in length in the barrels of unloaded handguns.  I then stack people in a line both vertical and horizontal to the target.  I then have them do movement drills, simulated holster and draw.  You would be amazed how many hip and thigh slaps with the dowls occure.  Each one of those slaps equals violating the lazer rule. 

Sorry I went off on a tangent and this was not the info you were looking for, but I believe strongly in the right to keep and bear arms, but I also believe just as strongly in safe and responsable handling and use as well.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: high country on January 11, 2010, 10:33:06 AM
since you are gonna drag safety into this;

wear earplugs every time you shoot it unless it is life or death. god hath no fury like a hot short barreled wheelgun. 100x louder then a shotgun
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: Shootmoore on January 11, 2010, 11:01:43 AM
since you are gonna drag safety into this;

wear earplugs every time you shoot it unless it is life or death. god hath no fury like a hot short barreled wheelgun. 100x louder then a shotgun

Good point, I learned that the hard way many years ago taking a shot a groundhog with a .38 snubby without plugs.  Thought I was going to be deaf the rest of my life.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: Huntbear on January 11, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
i am in yakima, ya ive thought about pawn shops, im just kinda scared cuz i dont the know history of the gun i guess??

All weapons that are for sale in a pawn shop are SUPPOSED to be run through the Sheriff's office before being put out for sale.  Unless the pawn shop owner is a crook, fencing stolen goods, you should not have to worry about buying a stolen gun from a reputable pawn broker.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: high country on January 11, 2010, 07:22:34 PM
I watched a co-worker touch off a 7-30 waters that was ported from the hood......I thought he shot himself the way he was floundering. he yawned 200 times a day hoping his ear would pop and his hearing would come back.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: Chessie_Guy on January 12, 2010, 09:06:53 AM
i just got my weapons permit

What is a 'weapons permit'?  Are you talking about a Concealed Weapons Permit/Concealed Carry License?
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: squeeze2drop on January 12, 2010, 09:32:19 AM
Ya a concealed permit, sorry I just shortened it
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: Swag on January 18, 2010, 08:16:56 AM
No matter what you buy, just remember that it hast to feel good in your hand & on your hip.  So many people buy guns that they think are cool or the latest & greatest, but if you don't feel comfortable carrying it or shooting than what was the point.  I always tell anyone looking to buy a handgun go out & handle every gun you can & find out what feels the best to you.  After finding something that feels comfortable to you try & find a range or someone who will let you shoot it.  Bare in mind if you plan on carrying concelled there are tons of options in holsters that allow you to carry both small & large frames.  Now that doesn't mean to go out & buy a 500 s&w, you need to be realistic.  But if it not comfortable you will not carry it.  When you find the right one it will be the same thing as getting up to leave the house & putting your wallet in your back pocket.
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: ribka on January 18, 2010, 08:46:01 AM
I would also suggest a .357 double action revolver. As mentioned can shoot .38 or .357. Always suggest someone use a revolver at least a few years before purchasing a semi-auto. As shootmore stated safety/training is always the main priority when purchasing a firearm, especially if it is firearm you are unfamiliar with. Have taught firearms training many years and "lasering" is always a problem for people even ones with many years experience. How many times do you read a story where a guy shoots himself when "cleaning" his firearm?

Always keep in mind handling and storing of firearm. Do not leave in your vehicle!E Wa is notorious for vehicle break-ins.  I know many many guys that have left their firearms in their vehicles and they were stolen.  Make sure you understand rights and responsibilities if you plan on concealed carry.( I have read some pretty scary advice on here regarding concealed carry advice and use of deadly force) 

Pawn shops are pretty good about checking firearms before accepting them. S&W 1st choice, Ruger or Taurus second choice. Go to Hammers, Bulbys or Guns West in Yakima and pick up a good deal on a used one. Remember can always try and bargain with them.

Enjoy and be safe
Sorry for the lecture ;)
Title: Re: Little Help Please
Post by: woodswalker on January 18, 2010, 10:43:19 AM
for in-vehicle storage a lockbox is a GOOD plan.
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