Post by: PBinWA on January 15, 2010, 09:15:24 AM
You can check out more info in this good article:
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d13-Bill-introduced-to-ban-socalled-assault-weapons
You should contact ALL of the Senate Judiciary Committee members even if you know they won't care about your opinion.
Here are the email addresses:
Senator Adam Kline kline.adam@leg.wa.gov District 37 D
Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles kohl-welles.jeanne@leg.wa.gov District 36 D
Senator Mike Carrell carrell.michael@leg.wa.gov District 28 R
Senator James Hargrove hargrove.jim@leg.wa.gov District 24 D
Senator Pam Roach roach.pam@leg.wa.gov District 31 R
Senator Debbie Regala regala.debbie@leg.wa.gov District 27 D
Senator Rodney Tom tom.rodney@leg.wa.gov District 48 D
Senator Bob McCaslin mccaslin.bob@leg.wa.gov District 4 R
Also, don't forget to contact all your legislators and mention both bills (House Bill 2477 is the bill to ban private face to face sales. Senate Bill 6396 is the Assault Weapons Ban):
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx
Post by: CastleRocker on January 15, 2010, 03:31:38 PM
Every year is a tough year in our state.
Post by: FALFire on January 15, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
We need to stop this crap :bash:
Post by: PBinWA on January 16, 2010, 07:45:30 AM
This bill pretty much includes ANY gun with a capacity of more than 10 rounds.
Also, no more shooting on public lands.
Post by: PBinWA on January 18, 2010, 10:44:53 AM
Washington “Assault Weapon” Ban Impacts All Firearm Owners!
Stand-Up and Make Your Voices Heard Now!
Last week, NRA-ILA informed you about Senate Bill 6396, legislation that would bring California-style gun-control to the Northwest and ultimately ban many semi-automatic firearms commonly owned by Washingtonians.
In fact, SB 6396 is more far-reaching than it appears on the surface and will absolutely impact a gigantic swath of Washington firearm owners, including concealed pistol license holders, hunters and competitive pistol shooters. As examples, consider the following restrictions that flow from the provisions of this horrendous piece of gun control legislation:
Every semiautomatic AND PUMP-ACTION rifle and shotgun that has a detachable magazine and has a pistol grip located rear of the trigger (yes, that is just about all of them) is defined as an “assault weapon” and is banned under SB 6396!
If you and your child/children are out in the woods plinking with his or her Ruger 10-22 and there are more than 10 rounds in the magazine, you are a FELON!
If you are a Concealed Pistol License holder and your semi-auto self-defense pistol contains more than 10 rounds, you are a FELON!
The use of firearms defined as “assault weapons” (see first bullet point) are banned for use in hunting!
Competitive shooters will be impacted as any semi-auto pistol that has a detachable magazine and is equipped with a muzzle brake or compensator is defined as an “assault weapon!”
If you own a firearm(s) defined as an “assault weapon” on the date this bill becomes law, you can keep it if you are willing to allow your Sheriff to come into your home once every year to ensure you store your firearm(s) appropriately!
Senate Bill 6396 is proof that the gun-ban groups and politicians are not interested in only banning semi-automatic firearms that happen to look like military firearms. This bill shows where they really want to go with their agenda! This gun ban scheme will only punish law-abiding citizens and will do nothing to curb crime or keep criminals from obtaining firearms illegally. This is not only another attack on our Second Amendment rights in Washington State, but an attack on your Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches of your home!
Please contact both of your State Representatives and your State Senator TODAY and urge them to oppose SB 6396!
Post by: Jburke on January 18, 2010, 11:52:34 AM
"The sponsors of this legislation are just a few of the likely suspects in the majority party that introduce bills year in and year out in an effort to erode our constitutional rights. I will of course oppose it".
Good to know that someone has half a brain!
Post by: PBinWA on January 18, 2010, 05:10:08 PM
Ok, so I actually shot out an E-mail to all of the juduciary commitee, and my local representatives. So far I got one response back from Senator Bob McCaslin. Said what we are all thinking,
"The sponsors of this legislation are just a few of the likely suspects in the majority party that introduce bills year in and year out in an effort to erode our constitutional rights. I will of course oppose it".
Good to know that someone has half a brain!
Thank you! We need to make noise and put an end to this waste of our time and money. >:(
Post by: Skinnyman on January 19, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
So that is what I have heard. But by all means keep sending stuff to your state representatives!!!
A couple statistics, #1 The homicide rate in the US by means of assualt weapons was exactly the same before the Clinton ban as it was 4 years after the ban had been in effect (rate was 1%). #2 way back when WA DC put the handgun ban into effect, crimes involving handguns went up 200%!!!
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 20, 2010, 01:05:56 PM
. . .I have emailed all of my representatives, all of the judiciary committe members and the senators who are sponsoring this bill.
We need to make sure that we let as many people know about this kind of stuff as quickly as possible!
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 20, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
Senators Kline (D-District 37) , Fairley (D-District 32), Kohl-Welles (D-District 36), and McDermott (not sure on this one. . .)
Post by: ADAMS on January 20, 2010, 07:48:01 PM
Thank you for writing about the bills that are again threatening our second amendment rights. I can assure you that I will continue to do everything I am able to see these bills set aside. I have been successful in the past in working with a select group of legislators on both sides of the aisle to ensure these bills don't pass. Thank you for taking the time to write and share your opinion to protect our rights.
Deb
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 20, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
Post by: Jburke on January 21, 2010, 12:50:13 AM
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 21, 2010, 01:50:09 AM
. . .any word on how that went???
Post by: PBinWA on January 21, 2010, 07:22:43 AM
So Senator Kline went shooting. . .
. . .any word on how that went???
Something tells me that he cares more about getting re-elected than the gun issue. I still wish these clowns would work harder on economic and infrastructure issues and less on "social engineering" issues.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 21, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
. . .doubt that they care or will change their stance, but they should know that there are those of us who see through stupid little ploys like this and are disgusted by them. . .
Post by: PBinWA on January 21, 2010, 07:07:55 PM
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This email is just to notify you that SB 6396, Assault weapons ban, has received a hearing and will be heard in the Senate Judiciary committee on January 26th at 10am in Senate Hearing Room 1. These are public hearings so you are all welcome to attend. If you are unable to attend but are still interested in watching the committee, they are all aired on www.TVW.org under “Live Programming” then “Live Webcasts.”
Anyone that can make it should show up and show our disgust with this bill - courteously of course. I don't think it will help to go in yelling and screaming but any sort of show of support in numbers would be a good idea.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 21, 2010, 11:46:04 PM
I may be able to make it. . .bit of a drive, but worth it if I can get away.
Post by: PBinWA on January 22, 2010, 09:23:29 AM
Visitor Details:
http://www.ga.wa.gov/Visitor/direction.htm
PDF map of the campus:
http://www.ga.wa.gov/images/campus-map.pdf
Not sure if I can go yet. I have farther to go than you and work to contend with. I may watch the feed though and see how it goes.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
. . .drats!
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2010, 04:07:01 PM
. . .Representative Kathy Haigh also wrote back to me today stating that she would not support any such bill if it were to make it to the House. . .she stated she was uncomfortable with any legislation which would either threaten our Second Amendment rights or decrease our ability to defend ourselves from criminals.
Seems like quite a few of WA's Senate and House are on our side. . .so far it sounds like way more than are supporting this bill.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2010, 05:24:02 PM
Post by: hookr88 on January 22, 2010, 08:35:57 PM
Post by: PBinWA on January 22, 2010, 09:28:17 PM
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Arriving early would be a good idea since there will be a large crowd. In the committee room there is a sheet where you can sign on the record in opposition to the bill and you may also sign up to testify on the bill.
So it would be nice if as many people as possible can go and sign the sheet. I'm still seeing if I can skip out on my work.
Post by: grousetracker on January 22, 2010, 09:43:35 PM
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2010, 11:35:05 PM
. . .one great thing about this thread is that may help us in our voting decisions on the next election.
Being newer to the state I know it was difficult last election and I spent a LONG time online looking at each candidate that I could vote for to see where they stood on all the issues. . .
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 22, 2010, 11:37:19 PM
. . .rock and a hard place!!!
Post by: Jburke on January 22, 2010, 11:39:46 PM
On a side note, just to show my support for the second amendment, I just went out today and bought two more guns. Suck on that Congress! :chuckle:
Post by: shaneman153D on January 23, 2010, 01:40:03 AM
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ear Shane,
Thank you for your support of the Second Amendment. I completely agree with you and will strongly oppose SB 6396. In fact, I went shooting with the NRA's Brian Judy and Senator Adam Kline, who is the prime sponsor of this legislation, at the Black Diamond gun club to try and provide him with an education on different types of firearms.
SB 6396 has been scheduled for a public hearing next Tuesday, January 26th, at 10AM in the Judiciary Committee. The committee meets in Senate Hearing Room 1 in the John A. Cherberg building on the capitol campus.
If you are able to attend the hearing, this would be a very effective forum to voice your opposition to SB 6396.
Thank you again for the email. Please do not hesitate to contact me again with any further input or if there is anything I can do for you.
Sincerely,
Pam Roach
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 23, 2010, 06:58:44 AM
Post by: shaneman153D on January 23, 2010, 08:07:44 AM
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 24, 2010, 08:13:13 AM
Post by: TheHunt on January 24, 2010, 09:28:53 AM
Post by: PBinWA on January 24, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
PBinWA, thanks for posting the email addresses. I am one of the types that needs to be spoon fed apparently.
No problem. I'm Canadian and have lived through bad gun laws. I can't make this hearing but if it makes it out of committee then I will do my best to make the next opportunity.
Thank you for contacting your elected officials!
Post by: PBinWA on January 26, 2010, 09:48:42 AM
Post by: PBinWA on January 27, 2010, 11:07:49 AM
We law abiding citizens are safe . . . for now.
http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=189&sid=276365
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Olympia won't take on assault weapons ban
By CHRIS SULLIVAN
KIRO Radio
Despite pleas to ban assault rifles, Washington lawmakers don't appear ready to tackle the issue this session.
The legislation focuses on "military-style" assault weapons, which can fire rapidly and carry large magazines of ammunition.
After nearly an hour of passionate debate Tuesday, there weren't enough votes to get this latest attempt out of committee.
Ralph Fascitelli, board chairman for Washington Ceasefire, supports the ban of semi-automatic pistons, pump-action rifles, and shotguns. "If it holds more than 10 bullets, it my mind, it is. If it automatically loads and discharges bullets, it is. If it's original design and intent was to kill humans, it is," said Fascitelli.
He said it's important to make sure the wrong people don't have the opportunity to use assault weapons. "Many crimes are committed by angry, disturbed individuals without a criminal record who turn deadly in a moment of rage when they have access to weapons of war, such as these assault weapons," said Fascitelli.
But gun supporters, like Brian Judy of the National Rifle Association, says this ban wouldn't have kept the assault rifle out of the hands of Christopher Monfort, the man charged with killing Seattle Police Officer Timothy Brenton.
"I want to give you a bit of breaking news you probably won't hear in the Washington media. That is that 70 million gun owners didn't break the law today. Millions didn't break the law with firearms that are classified as assault weapons under this bill," said Judy.
He added that trying to define assault weapons won't work.
"You can ban all semi-automatic firearms or you can ban none of them, but if you try to carve out some arbitrary sub-set, what you're going to end up with is a confusing and utterly ineffective nightmare of law and regulation," said Judy.
Sponsors said the bill is similar to the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. It would cover an array of different pistols, shotguns and rifles, including semiautomatic rifles with large ammunition magazines and pistol-grip stocks.
The Aaron Sullivan Public Safety and Police Protection Bill is Senate Bill 6396. The bill was named in honor of 18-year-old Aaron Sullivan, who was shot and killed by a SKS 7.62-caliber rifle in Seattle in July.
Post by: atomicjoe23 on January 27, 2010, 01:26:24 PM