Post by: haugenna on January 15, 2010, 10:49:38 AM
The first buck he shoots at he misses completely at 996 yards, blames the gun of course, resets the zero and then shot a deer at 900 yards.
To start this off, I am not against long range hunting at all. He is not a good role model for the sport of hunting. The worst part of it is that it is televised. If someone wants to do this, then to each their own, but televise it and show the whole world that you are an idiot and give someone the opportunity to lump all of us in with him. :dunno: This is right up there with the tranquelized elk he shot last year.
On top of all that, he sets up his range in the beginning of the show and is shooting out of the bed of a pick up truck, which is illegal as hell. What a moron.
Post by: PacificNWhunter on January 15, 2010, 10:57:36 AM
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Post by: haugenna on January 15, 2010, 11:28:54 AM
I saw a few minutes of that one too. The deer was too far out to get a yardage measurement, so one of his crew moves forward several hundred yards to a pile of round bales. Gets the range, then ranges back to the shooter, they add it up and then take the shot. WTF? If you can get x hundred yards closer, why not? When the most important part of a shot is the distance I'm not the least bit interested, unless it's getting real close, then I'm all in. I don't get it. :dunno:
Good point. He had every opportunity to get closer to kill that buck effectively.
Post by: Alan K on January 15, 2010, 01:22:57 PM
Everyone enjoys their own style of 'hunt'. Some people get a rush from getting close to an animal and making a shot, some people get a rush from making an amazingly long shot. To each their own.
There are a lot of things people do hunting related that I don't do myself and don't necessarily agree with, but if that's what they want to do, who am I to knock them?
:twocents:
Post by: CSOUTFITTERS on January 15, 2010, 02:33:21 PM
There is only one reason why a guy needs to shoot these ranges and our boys in the midde east are doing a good job of it.
Post by: jackelope on January 15, 2010, 02:37:21 PM
maybe thats a bit of an exxageration, but what the F do you need to shoot a deer with a .50 for?
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 15, 2010, 03:00:42 PM
Post by: Alpine Mojo on January 15, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
Kinda reminded me of the CO elk hunt on Steve's Outdoor Adventures where it took him 3 shots from 200 yds to gutshot a skylined elk, followed up with congrats from all his buddies on what a great shot he was.
Post by: hunt4 on January 15, 2010, 10:31:36 PM
Can't recall the name of the show, but just yesterday watched a show where the shooter took a fairly crappy shot with a bow at a deer from a blind and said "first off, I want to say that shot was quartering torwards me more than I would normally like". So, "normally" being when? Any time your not on camera? Why the hell isn't it all the time? Either you have truly learned that is a shot you don't take, or you haven't, there is no such thing as "selecting" the right time to take a crappy shot. Different if you just foul up and don't complete an ethical shot by human error, that's just a consciously bad decision, I agree.
In defense the guy narrating the show was NOT the shooter, I think he was doing some damage control (Limiting the emails) because it was a horrid shot but it did go threw the shoulder blade it worked :rolleyes:
Not sure of the shows name but it is the little skinny blond guy that never shuts up in his tree stand (irritates the F out of me)
Post by: Dansk on January 16, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Post by: Alpine Mojo on January 16, 2010, 06:53:17 PM
Post by: haugenna on January 16, 2010, 10:14:12 PM
Yes, it was filmed on an Indian Reservation in N.Dakota.
OOPS!!! Forgot about that. Disregard my comment about shooting off the truck. That is standard operations on the rez. :chuckle:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Post by: timberghost72 on January 18, 2010, 06:07:58 PM
especially with a friggin anti-tank rifle.
maybe thats a bit of an exxageration, but what the F do you need to shoot a deer with a .50 for?
Thats what I was thinking when I was watching this show. My wife even thought he was a moron. What I would like to know is how much meat is destroyed with a .50 cal. That is a big hole and probably an even bigger hole on the exit side. How much blood shot would there be.
Post by: wrangler on January 18, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
especially with a friggin anti-tank rifle.
maybe thats a bit of an exxageration, but what the F do you need to shoot a deer with a .50 for?
Thats what I was thinking when I was watching this show. My wife even thought he was a moron. What I would like to know is how much meat is destroyed with a .50 cal. That is a big hole and probably an even bigger hole on the exit side. How much blood shot would there be.
lol you think they actually took any meat? i would bet my house that carcass didn't move 2 feet from where it dropped, untill the coyotes started gettin to it anyhow...
Post by: littlebuf on January 18, 2010, 06:17:55 PM
Yes, it was filmed on an Indian Reservation in N.Dakota.
OOPS!!! Forgot about that. Disregard my comment about shooting off the truck. That is standard operations on the rez. :chuckle:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
now i understand he was hunting in the traditional style of the native American just like they do here. budwiser,pick up beds and 50 cals. what a beautiful culture.
Post by: timberghost72 on January 18, 2010, 06:36:27 PM
especially with a friggin anti-tank rifle.
maybe thats a bit of an exxageration, but what the F do you need to shoot a deer with a .50 for?
Thats what I was thinking when I was watching this show. My wife even thought he was a moron. What I would like to know is how much meat is destroyed with a .50 cal. That is a big hole and probably an even bigger hole on the exit side. How much blood shot would there be.
lol you think they actually took any meat? i would bet my house that carcass didn't move 2 feet from where it dropped, untill the coyotes started gettin to it anyhow...
Don't know if he took any meat.
Just wondering what a .50 cal. would do to a deer sized animal
Post by: littlebuf on January 18, 2010, 06:39:49 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 18, 2010, 08:22:50 PM
I think he shot that show on an indian rez in the Dakotas.
I was going to say, Burnworth may be human like a lot of folks, but there's a lot worse out there, I wouldn't think he'd blatantly break the law from watching his show's, he seems to have integrity to me, though the shot does sound ill-advised.
Post by: haugenna on January 18, 2010, 10:36:40 PM
I think he shot that show on an indian rez in the Dakotas.
I was going to say, Burnworth may be human like a lot of folks, but there's a lot worse out there, I wouldn't think he'd blatantly break the law from watching his show's, he seems to have integrity to me, though the shot does sound ill-advised.
Integrity and Burnsworth don't belong in the same zip code. I can't prove he shot a tranquelized elk but it might as well been a barnyard pet the way it let him "sneak" up on it. The animal took two arrows in the vitals without moving a muscle. Just sat there and looked at him wondering when the feed bucket was going to show itself.
I saw him get more excited for the rag horn he shot the other day b/c it appeared to be fair chase. Kudos to him for actually working for the animal. The other 50 some elk he shot that he mentioned on the show were probably like shooting fish in a barrel.
Post by: MikeWalking on January 18, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
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Ive seen the show and it makes me sick. Just goes to show that even with high dollar equipment they can still miss, but of course its never the shooters fault, it must have been the $1600 swarovski scope that caused him to miss. What the show doesn't show is how many animals he wounds doing this.
There is only one reason why a guy needs to shoot these ranges and our boys in the middle east are doing a good job of it.
Amen to that last part. A .50BMG at 900+yds isn't hunting, it's showing off, in a sick way. You better be starving before saying you need to do that.
Even if it doesn't bother you, if you wont "knock it" You, We, need to always think of who else will see this stuff and what it may do to our sport.
Protect your sport.
A lot of places I "played" as a kid, dirtbiking, shooting, etc are gated off now because no one thought about that concept. Some hunting lands too, I imagine.
Post by: jackelope on January 18, 2010, 10:54:14 PM
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Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 19, 2010, 03:25:21 PM
I think he shot that show on an indian rez in the Dakotas.
I was going to say, Burnworth may be human like a lot of folks, but there's a lot worse out there, I wouldn't think he'd blatantly break the law from watching his show's, he seems to have integrity to me, though the shot does sound ill-advised.
Integrity and Burnsworth don't belong in the same zip code. I can't prove he shot a tranquelized elk but it might as well been a barnyard pet the way it let him "sneak" up on it. The animal took two arrows in the vitals without moving a muscle. Just sat there and looked at him wondering when the feed bucket was going to show itself.
I saw him get more excited for the rag horn he shot the other day b/c it appeared to be fair chase. Kudos to him for actually working for the animal. The other 50 some elk he shot that he mentioned on the show were probably like shooting fish in a barrel.
I guess I've never seen the shows your talking about. I've seen at least a half dozen of Western Extremes, one he hunted fair chase elk in the BC Rockies, fair chase elk in Montana and a couple other States, all on public land. I've always thought he was a good shot with a bow compared to many of the other joker's you see on TV lobbing arrows from 100yds.
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Post by: Alpine Mojo on January 21, 2010, 10:38:53 PM
now i understand he was hunting in the traditional style of the native American just like they do here. budwiser,pick up beds and 50 cals. what a beautiful culture.
At least they had the decency to clean up their empties before the camera was turned on. :chuckle: