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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: chrisb on January 17, 2010, 12:31:58 PM

Title: primers popping out
Post by: chrisb on January 17, 2010, 12:31:58 PM: This happens to me almost every time i take my AR out. The primers from spent rounds come out of the brass and end up getting stuck in my gun somewhere and usually jams and cuts my range session short. Ideas?
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: woodswalker on January 17, 2010, 12:39:27 PM: those reloads or factory ammo?
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: chrisb on January 17, 2010, 12:41:00 PM: Factory Wolf ammo in brass cases not steel. I think it might just be the ammo, but thought i'd check.
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Post by: woodswalker on January 17, 2010, 12:43:29 PM: have you checked headspace? Used a go and a No-go guage?
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Post by: chrisb on January 17, 2010, 12:49:07 PM: I have no idea how i would go about doing that.
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Post by: Jamieb on January 17, 2010, 05:01:02 PM: I'd take it to a gunsmith.
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Post by: high country on January 17, 2010, 05:41:56 PM: measure a new round and one of your fired rounds. if they measure the same at the head and the shoulder has not moved, it is likely bad run of ammo, if it has grown you deffinatly have issues.
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: chrisb on January 17, 2010, 08:28:54 PM: I've had this problem since i bought the gun brand new 2 years ago (i don't shoot it much). Not to say that there couldn't be a manufacturing issue here, but i'm inclined to think it's the Wolf ammo i'm shooting out of it.
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 17, 2010, 09:09:40 PM: Quote
I've had this problem since i bought the gun brand new 2 years ago

Maybe you should have approached the issue way back when with the seller/manufacturer? (OK, just jokin)

Are any of the primers pierced? Have you tried different ammo, (same result?)? Adjustable gas piston model?

I don't know AR's all that well to be giving advice, but I do know some very very experienced AR builders as resourse if you hit dead end with the manufacture. You might also hit AR15.com discussion board.

-Steve
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: Shootmoore on January 18, 2010, 12:15:20 AM: Just off the top of my head with the info provided I would say its a headspace issue. I would suggest trying another brand ammo, go buy a box its not that expensive. If you are having the same issue stop shooting it and get the headspace fixed.

We had some headspace issues with a couple Oly's we bought back in the day. Sounds like the same issue. Quick fix by the manufacturer.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: addicted on January 18, 2010, 12:21:36 AM: its likely to be that wolf crap.i've seen guys give it away because its not worthe shooting. one guy gave me a few boxes. i shot a few then gave it away. wouldnt group and shot so dirty that the outside of my gun was getting nasty lol
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: high country on January 18, 2010, 05:26:21 AM: measure the cases!
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: halflife65 on January 18, 2010, 07:26:24 AM: Do you have enough pressure? It's probably pressure related (most likely not enough) or too much headspace.

Probably, your ammo sucks - try some different stuff.
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: Gutpile on January 18, 2010, 07:47:08 AM: Quote from: addicted on January 18, 2010, 12:21:36 AM
its likely to be that wolf crap.i've seen guys give it away because its not worthe shooting. one guy gave me a few boxes. i shot a few then gave it away. wouldnt group and shot so dirty that the outside of my gun was getting nasty lol

two things;

The ammo sucks, buy some american.

Are you shooting 5.56 ammo from a .223? Your not supposed to because of pressure differences. .223 from a 5.56 chamber is ok but not the other way around.
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: chrisb on January 18, 2010, 07:50:01 AM: I'm going to try and get back out this weekend with some better ammo and try it again. Thanks for all the help guys i'll let you know who the next range session goes.
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: FALFire on January 20, 2010, 06:29:37 AM: Have the headspace checked, sounds like you have too much pressure going on there.
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Post by: C-Money on January 21, 2010, 04:35:29 PM: Have you ever shot different ammo threw it? I too would say try something els other than Wolf. Interested to know how it works out for you. Good luck!
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: chrisb on January 23, 2010, 03:31:14 PM: Took the AR back out to the range today with mixed results.

The good news is with a different kind of ammo, PMC Bronze, I did not have one single issue with the gun. THis leads me to believe it's the ammo i was using and not the head space.

The bad news is I still don't shoot any better :(
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: C-Money on January 24, 2010, 08:47:00 AM: Thats ok chrisb, Get some more of those PMC's and do some more shoot'en! Glad it was just an ammo problem!
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Post by: Shootmoore on January 24, 2010, 09:09:40 AM: Also thanks for sharing this info. I have never purchased any Wolf ammo before, I think after this tidbit I will keep up that trend.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: ICEMAN on January 24, 2010, 09:11:11 AM: If anyone needs to get rid of their WOLF ammo, I have lots of room here for it...
Title: Re: primers popping out
Post by: sisu on January 24, 2010, 09:16:14 AM: Quote from: ICEMAN on January 24, 2010, 09:11:11 AM
If anyone needs to get rid of their WOLF ammo, I have lots of room here for it...
A double entendre here Iceman?