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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: X-Force on January 19, 2010, 08:28:57 AM

Title: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: X-Force on January 19, 2010, 08:28:57 AM: I am in the market for a hunting shotgun for my fiance and after searching around locally (Kentucky) i found a gun shop that will give me a great deal but they have to order it. My question is their any issues with buying a shotgun in a different state?
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 08:40:49 AM: you will have to have it shipped to a Federal Firearms license holder there on your end.
thats about it.
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 08:41:55 AM: yup..im waiting on one right now.
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: X-Force on January 19, 2010, 08:44:02 AM: So i would have to have it shipped to a dealer in washington... say Kesslerings?
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Post by: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 08:50:07 AM: yep....where do you live?
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 08:50:38 AM: They are going to charge you a transfer fee..so I always just go with the cheapest option that close to where I live.

Some shops wont do it or will charge and arm and a leg if they carry the type firearm that you are trying to transfer..
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: X-Force on January 19, 2010, 08:55:20 AM: Im at school in Richmond ky but live in Stanwood. Thanks for the help guys.
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 08:59:43 AM: $25-30 is a fair price to pay for a transfer. some people gouge and charge $50, if thats the case i would keep looking.
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: Shootmoore on January 19, 2010, 09:14:25 AM: I think you are asking if there are any legal issues with purchasing a shotgun in Kentuck even though your a Washington State Resident? No no issues, you just have to follow Kentuck's firearms laws until you move back to WA. Purchasing a firearm out of state is just like buying anything else.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 09:16:17 AM: Did you guys know that you can't buy a handgun in washington state if you dont have a WA drivers licence...
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Post by: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 09:42:26 AM: did you guys know that you can't buy a handgun in new york unless you have a pistol permit?
and you can't have a handgun in new york city at all even if you have a CWP??
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 11:44:31 AM: Quote from: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 09:42:26 AM
did you guys know that you can't buy a handgun in new york unless you have a pistol permit?
and you can't have a handgun in new york city at all even if you have a CWP??

Never going to live there.
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: FALFire on January 19, 2010, 01:44:13 PM: Quote from: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
Did you guys know that you can't buy a handgun in washington state if you dont have a WA drivers licence...

All you need is a Wa. State ID card, many people don't drive.
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: saylean on January 19, 2010, 01:55:20 PM: Hey Jim...wheres a pic of this weapon?!

I am jealous...how come I changed your diapers and you never bought me a shotgun!? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: high country on January 19, 2010, 06:21:00 PM: I just left my dealer that I have bought MANY guns from. he told me to get the one I am waiting for now shipped to one of my idaho dealers as he is now required to charge sales tax on transfers. I doubt he was BS'n as it was money out of his pocket......fyi
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 06:23:25 PM: OH sh*T................. :yike:

Is that tax thing for real?
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: high country on January 19, 2010, 06:24:24 PM: Home / Get a form or publication / Publications by subject / Tax Topics / Interstate transfers of firearms
Interstate transfers of firearms
Washington residents sometimes purchase firearms from out-of-state persons. Because of state and federal laws, a firearm purchased by a Washington resident must be sent from the out-of state person to a federally licensed gun store located in Washington State.

Once the Washington gun dealer has conducted the required background checks the dealer will transfer the firearm to the Washington resident.

The following information provides instructions for the taxability of such transfers.

Is the transfer of a firearm subject to sales tax?
In an interstate transfer of firearms the Washington gun dealer is required to collect retail sales tax from the Washington resident on the purchase price of the firearm. The retail sales tax is collected from the Washington customer at the time the customer takes possession of the firearm. Sales tax is collected on the total selling price, including freight and/or delivery charges and other amounts added, such a an amount for insurance coverage.

However, sales tax does not apply on the service charge for processing the required Federal and State forms and contacting the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) when the fee is stated separately from the selling price of the firearm and freight and/or delivery charges, insurance, etc.

How are these transactions reported on the Excise Tax Return?
When completing the Excise Tax Return the gross selling price of the firearm is reported under the retailing business and occupation (B&O) tax classification and the retail sales tax lines. The dealer is allowed a deduction under the retailing B&O tax classification for “consignment sales.”

The fee received (when separately stated on the purchase invoice) for the transfer service is reported under the service and other activities B&O tax classification. Sales tax is not collected on this transaction.

Applicable law
RCW 82.12.040(1) states:

Every person who maintains in this state a place of business or a stock of goods, or engages in business activities within this state, shall obtain from the department a certificate of registration, and shall, at the time of making sales of tangible personal property, extended warranties, or sales of any service defined as a retail sale in RCW 82.04.050 (2)(a) or (3)(a), or making transfers of either possession or title, or both, of tangible personal property for use in this state, collect from the purchasers or transferees the tax imposed under this chapter. The tax to be collected under this section shall be in an amount equal to the purchase price multiplied by the rate in effect for the retail sales tax under RCW 82.08.020. (Emphasis added).
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: high country on January 19, 2010, 06:25:03 PM: gonna start a new topic on it
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Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 19, 2010, 06:27:18 PM: Oh thats fing awful...
Title: Re: Buying Shotgun Out of State
Post by: grousetracker on January 19, 2010, 09:32:36 PM: you can own a handgun in ny city, you just cant carry it concealed,the us supreme court ruled on that last year. they cited you have the right to bare arms and didnt say what types of arms.