Post by: fixed blade on January 28, 2010, 02:29:53 PM
I saw a thread saying wac'em's are Illegal. :rolleyes: Wth? I though Utah had some weird rules. Are Expandable broad heads legal? Are they're any Let off regs? Hand held release regs?
Thanks for any and all replies.
Jason
Post by: jackelope on January 28, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
wac'ems are legal...there's another thread...
no letoff laws(anymore).
releases are cool.
no handguns unless you have a CWP.
umm....
Post by: fixed blade on January 28, 2010, 02:35:37 PM
Another Question. Are there any over the counter elk and deer tags? Or are they all by the Draw system.
I saw you can get 3 turkey tags. Do they have any spring hunting tags?
Post by: jackelope on January 28, 2010, 02:38:42 PM
no branch antlered bull elk in most of eastern washington OTC.
turkeys are mostly all spring season. i think 3 tags but only 2 can be eastern washington, then there's an extra fall tag? i might be wrong here.
Post by: jackelope on January 28, 2010, 02:39:14 PM
Post by: fixed blade on January 28, 2010, 02:47:22 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 28, 2010, 02:50:16 PM
Post by: Gobble Gobble on January 28, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on January 28, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 28, 2010, 02:53:32 PM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on January 28, 2010, 05:32:32 PM
Post by: JBar on January 28, 2010, 06:40:21 PM
Post by: Gobble Gobble on January 29, 2010, 09:51:59 AM
Then go to the WDFW web site and check for any reg changes that have been made since the reg book went to press. I know last year tag prices went up after the reg book was in stores.
Post by: Grizzly95 on January 29, 2010, 10:13:11 AM
Post by: JBar on January 29, 2010, 12:13:50 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 29, 2010, 12:21:12 PM
Post by: fixed blade on January 29, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
the guys got you pointed in the right direction. also no battery equipment on arrow or bow no lighted nocks or sight pins using battery's. is another one to know, also 6 grains per pound of draw with a min arrow weight of 300 grains
:o That's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard!!!! Anyone know the states logic behind this one? :bdid: Man I thought the Fish and Game in Utah had some stupid laws. This one may take the cake.
Although in Utah, if you have an archery tag you're not allowed a fire arm in camp at all, not even if there's none hunters with you. So you can not protect your family unless you have a CWP. You can have a pistol however to protect your livestock, but not your family. :P
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 29, 2010, 02:10:39 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on February 01, 2010, 08:00:06 PM
good luck
Post by: Snapshot on February 02, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
Lines had to be drawn somewhere on the gadgets and gizmos; otherwise we'd end up with Lord-knows-what in archery season*. One such line was drawn at electronics.
[* Archery seasons would already be unrecognizable to Pope, Young, Compton, the Thompsons, Duyree, Case, Hill, Stevenson, etc.]
Post by: yajsab on February 02, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Post by: Intruder on February 02, 2010, 01:34:45 PM
Post by: Teachers Pet on February 13, 2010, 03:02:24 PM
Post by: lokidog on February 13, 2010, 03:29:52 PM
"That's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard!!!! Anyone know the states logic behind this one?"
Lines had to be drawn somewhere on the gadgets and gizmos; otherwise we'd end up with Lord-knows-what in archery season*. One such line was drawn at electronics.
[* Archery seasons would already be unrecognizable to Pope, Young, Compton, the Thompsons, Duyree, Case, Hill, Stevenson, etc.]
Actually, Snappy, it is not that hard to say, no electronics on the bow. They did not have to include arrows at all since, as far as I know there are no wire guided or heat seeking arrows around.... And, how are "seasons" not recognizeable? Maybe gear used is a little more advanced but it still throws a stick off a hand drawn string.
Get off your high horse unless you are shooting a hand-made stickbow with cedar arrows, turkey fletches (not shot with a cartridge shotgun) and hand-forged or stone tips. :twocents:
Post by: Snapshot on February 25, 2010, 05:57:15 PM
Lesseee... Hand-made stickbow; check, hand-made (fir, cedar, ash) wood arrows; bunches of those, turkey feathers; got 'em. Hmmmm. But nope, I buy quality steel broadheads because I have never had the inclination to learn how to make my own, nor can I knapp worth a hoot. Getting down off my high horse now...
...but will say again that, that in my opinion, there is no resemblance whatsoever in archery hunting of the pre-1970's to what folks today call bowhunting. It lacks the discipline, the athleticism and the guts. I was just born too late.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 25, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
1. Rules pertaining to all archery:
a. It is unlawful for any person to carry or
have in his possession any firearm while in
the field archery hunting, during an archery
season specified for that area, except for
modern handguns carried for personal
protection
concealed pistol license as defined by
RCW 9.41.070.
be used to hunt big game or dispatch
wounded big game during an archery, big
game hunting season.
b. It is unlawful to have any electrical
equipment or electric device(s) attached to
the bow or arrow while hunting.
c. It is unlawful to shoot a bow and arrow
from a vehicle or from, across or along the
maintained portion of a public highway,
except persons with a disabled hunter
permit may shoot from a vehicle if the
hunter is in compliance with WAC 232-12-
828.
d. It is unlawful to use any device secured to
or supported by the bow for the purpose
of maintaining the bow at full draw or in
a firing position, except persons with an
archery special use permit may hunt game
birds or game animals using a device that
stabilizes and holds a long bow, recurve
bow, or compound bow at a full draw, and
may use a mechanical or electrical release.
e. It is unlawful to hunt wildlife with a
crossbow, except in firearm restriction
areas. However, disabled hunter permittees
in possession of a crossbow special use
permit may hunt with a crossbow in any
season that allows archery equipment.
f. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not have a
sharp broadhead, and the broadhead blade
or blades are less than seven-eighths inch
wide.
g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.
h. It is unlawful to hunt wildlife with any bow
or crossbow equipped with a scope. Except
hunters with disabilities who meet the
definition of being visually impaired in WAC
232-12-828 may receive a special use
permit that would allow the use of scopes
or other visual aids. A disabled hunter
permit holder in possession of a special
use permit that allows the use of a scope
or visual aid may hunt game birds or game
animals during archery seasons.
2. Rules pertaining to long bow, recurve bow and
compound bow archery:
a. It is unlawful for any person to hunt big
game animals with a bow that possesses
less than 40 pounds of pull measured at
twenty-eight inches or less draw length.
b. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
any arrow measuring less than 20 inches
in length or weighing less than 6 grains per
pound of draw weight with a minimum arrow
weight of 300 grains.
They are proposing to remove the requirement of having a CWP to carry.
Post by: lokidog on February 25, 2010, 08:03:53 PM
Sorry, Lokidog, I had been out riding my horse and only just now dropped by, and find your post. Thanks.
Lesseee... Hand-made stickbow, hand-made (fir, cedar, ash) wood arrows; bunches of those, turkey feathers; got 'em. Hmmmm. But nope, I buy quality steel broadheads because I have never had the inclination to learn how to make my own, nor can I knapp worth a hoot. Getting down off my high horse now...
...but will say again that, that in my opinion, there is no resemblance whatsoever in archery hunting of the pre-1970's to what folks today call bowhunting. It lacks the discipline, the athleticism and the guts. I was just born too late.
Good for you! :bow:
Post by: Aneoakleaf on February 27, 2010, 09:39:23 AM
Contrary to alot of our complaints FB, this state is actually pretty nice with the exception of the state government. Let us know what we can do to help your transition! Also a law degree would help with the regulations interpretation. :chuckle::yeah:
My feeling exactly ;)