Post by: yelp on February 12, 2010, 02:12:49 PM
I found this on the WDFW website..It shows permits already divided into the special pools...Go to page 85-105
http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2010/wsr_10-04-125.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2010/wsr_10-04-125.pdf)
a definite increase in bull permits... :)
Post by: Bob33 on February 12, 2010, 02:15:25 PM
Not implemented yet.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 12, 2010, 02:27:28 PM
Post by: yelp on February 12, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
The title is "PROPOSED RULE MAKING".
Not implemented yet.
Correct Bob this is a proposal.I changed title for those that might be misled..It looks like they have the basic format in regards to the proposed drawing pools and when it is pushed through the commission and public comment by first of April its ready to print..Permit levels may change depending on hunting reports, and process. But they published it to view.
Post by: yelp on February 12, 2010, 02:46:10 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 12, 2010, 02:48:02 PM
The more of us that comment, the better the chances this can be deferred until it is better thought out.
Post by: yelp on February 12, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
Have you read the document I posted? I just found it on the web. It was posted on Feb 3, 2010 it looks like. I didn't see it in the other threads.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 12, 2010, 03:29:18 PM
From what I could see (and I admit, I only looked at the stuff that I put in for), looks like a few more elk tags, a few less late hunt mule deer tags and the other stuff mostly stayed the same( moose, etc..).
I don't have a PhD, so I didn't dig into the cougar stuff yet.
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2010, 06:01:19 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on February 12, 2010, 07:49:38 PM
It's been posted a few times on here already. It got posted on the WDFW website last Friday. It does show all the proposed new categories. Starts out with the Quality permits, then Bull/Buck, then Antlerless, Youth, Senior, Disabled, 2nd Deer tag permits, and Master Hunter permits.Whether draw odds will be "screwed" is debatable. Some permits will definitely get more applicants. Others maybe not. Guys with a lot of points will probably have a good chance of drawing a permit under this new system.Guys with alot of points had a better shot at drawing a permit with the old system!
Post by: gasman on February 12, 2010, 08:35:41 PM
Purpose of the proposal and its anticipated effects, including any changes in existing rules:
The purpose is to modify the permit application rules to allow permit application in drawing by category
rather than by species.
Reasons supporting proposal:
Consistency with initiative to provide greater permit application opportunities for hunters and expand
funding for hunter access programs.
Post by: gasman on February 12, 2010, 08:47:24 PM
:dunno:
Crossbows are lawful under modern firearm seasons and not under archery seasons.
(4) Rules pertaining to crossbows:
(a) It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with a crossbow
with a draw weight less than 125 pounds, a limb width less than 24
inches, a draw length less than 14 inches, and a trigger safety
that does not work properly.
(b) It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with any arrow or
bolt measuring less than 16 inches in length and weighing less than
350 grains.
(c) It is unlawful to hunt game animals or game birds with a
crossbow that weighs more than 15 pounds.
Post by: Kain on February 12, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Does this mean it is leagal (or may be) to hunt witha crosss bow durring Riffle season?
:dunno:
Crossbows are lawful under modern firearm seasons and not under archery seasons.
(4) Rules pertaining to crossbows:
(a) It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with a crossbow
with a draw weight less than 125 pounds, a limb width less than 24
inches, a draw length less than 14 inches, and a trigger safety
that does not work properly.
(b) It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with any arrow or
bolt measuring less than 16 inches in length and weighing less than
350 grains.
(c) It is unlawful to hunt game animals or game birds with a
crossbow that weighs more than 15 pounds.
Only in firearm restricted units. It was just confusing that they were legal during modern firearms season in these units but the rules for them were under archery.
Post by: gasman on February 12, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Unless i am seeing things they are proposing to open the little naches unit for general archery elk and making bumping and nile in to spike only units..
Am i wrong, or what
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2010, 10:24:32 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44657.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44657.0.html)
Post by: gasman on February 12, 2010, 10:37:38 PM
No, you are right. I posted a thread about it in the elk forum last night:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44657.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44657.0.html)
I have spent the last few hours going over the praposal and they are cutting down on the coe permits a lot.
Umtanumand manashtash both droped from 250 to 100 cow permits for MF.
little nachese droped from 150 to 75 cow permits MF
Nile 30 to 10 cow permits MF, etc.........
Seem that teh cow permits are cut in half for MF.
Making Bumping and Nile in to Spike only and opening Little Naches to spike and cow :yike: for archery.
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Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2010, 10:50:23 PM
Post by: gasman on February 12, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
Yes from the sounds of it, Little Naches is going to get most of the pressure this year from the archery hunters.
I would agre with that, I know i will be there now :archery_smiley:
With Bumping and Nile being spike only, who would hunt there :dunno:
I bet it will push more elk in to those area though.
Post by: 180-GRAIN on February 13, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Post by: shanevg on February 13, 2010, 11:17:44 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 14, 2010, 08:15:27 AM
Bob,
Have you read the document I posted? I just found it on the web. It was posted on Feb 3, 2010 it looks like. I didn't see it in the other threads.
It's been posted in a few places: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44561.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,44561.0.html)
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 14, 2010, 08:47:17 AM
I would be willing to bet they cut some goat and sheep tags off that proposal.
I left my copy at work, but I think goat sheep and moose looked about the same as last years (I know moose was for sure).
Post by: KDB on February 15, 2010, 03:09:34 PM