Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: Bob Williams on February 12, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
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Any good tips on where to go whack some yote's tomorrow. I wanna head east over in the vantage area but really would like a spot that somebody can suggest for increased success.. I won't hunt it dry just would like to get out with my new caller (Western-River) and see if that damn thing will actually work :dunno:.
I have been out twice on this side of the pass, out around the end of HWY. 18 and I-90 and have not been able to lure anything at this point.. Jack rabbit distress, Cottontail, Yipper, Howling, you name it i have tried it and despite what ya see in the video's they do not come running out of the friggen hills to wanna eat it :'(.
I know its mating time and have really been pushin the mate calls or lonely female calls but i am a little discouraged at this point and would love to whack some curious coyote a$$ :bash: :bash:to get my confidence and enthusiasm up 8).. Any suggestions will be much appreciated and hopefully give ya all a good story to read and some good pics too. And heck i'll pay ya whatever this money is worth---> :twocents:
Thanks again
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:)You've been out twice and you are discouraged? :dunno: You're in for a loooooong life my friend.
Carl
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:)You've been out twice and you are discouraged? :dunno: You're in for a loooooong life my friend.
Carl
:yeah: I have been out many many times and had no response, keep at it and the ice will break. Mark
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If I see a cat in 10 to 15 sets Im happy....I have a good time no matter what..If you think your gonna get a critter everytime you call.Might as well quit now
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These guys are right. what i have found is that many get excited about coyote hunting because they bought Randy Andersons video and think it is that easy. Then after the first year they give up because they only called in one in 20 days of hunting and didn't even kill that one. I will tell you now, if you don't try to learn everything there is to know about hunting coyotes, you may just be wasting your time. First thing to understand is that if someone just sends you to coyote rich land it wont guarantee anything. Having the greatest caller in the world wont do anything and for sure having the most accurate rifle wont. Number one rule of coyote hunting, and any experienced caller will agree, is the SETUP. If you mess that up, all of the trinketts you bring along are useless. What i am trying to say is that if you are not calling in coyotes, you are more than likely setting up in the wrong spot. I don't mean wrong area, i truely mean wrong spot. Sometimes moving a little deeper off the beaten path, or coming in from the backside that most people are not willing to do. Just dig a little deeper so to speak. :twocents:
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Very good advice furbearer365.
First I went coyot ehunting called on a cheap mouth call. Within 5 minutes 2 came in and boom both down. Second time same thing. Thought this yot ehunting is no big deal to figure out. Now hitting a dry spell. But learning that set-up is VERY important. Do a little extra work and access areas where other people don't.
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My partner & I went down to an area called "the desert" last weekend. Just go east on Frenchman Hills Rd and check out everything in the public hunting areas. We heard coyotes all night, but our only response were the first call of the day. Listen and learn. They are wary this time of year.
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too bad your not near cheney, we're goin tomorrow :drool:
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So after a trip over to eastern washington today i managed to see a yote runnin through a pasture as i was doin 70 on i-90. I did actually end up down around frenchmen hill and back on some pasture land that a buddy does some bird hunting on.. Wasn't workin out however i did see some sign in the sand a dead hawk and lots of geese..
On my way back i ventured down the old vantage hwy and hiked in about a half mile or so and had a good set-up going. The wind however was not actually perfect as it was blowing left to right..My caller was down in a ravine and i was tucked back into the hillside behind some sage brush.. The Jack rabbit distress was the ticket.. My field of view to hunt because of the wind was 2 o clock position back to about an 8 o clock position.. But guess where the yote came from.. right about a 4 o clock position over the right hand ridge behind me.. I looked and he was as golden in color as wheat ready to harvest! His/Her ears straight up and rubber necking to the sound of the caller.. I moved my position a little to turn and possibly get a shot..A i moved my rifle off my shooting stick the strap buckle hit the stick and his head snapped right to me..I froze and didn't move..He hunched and bolted back over the side from where he came in from.. I ranged the bare tree he was standing behind after i had got done kickin my own a$$ and he was 83 yards!!!! and heard the buckle hit?...Amazing.. I think he caught my wind after his attention went to me.. Wrong spot for that wind..If the wind was in my face i would have seen him come in and he would likely have gotten a dirt nap today.. But it was a huge rush to have it come in at all..Very cool and lessened learned..Get your wind right!!
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That is exatly what i was talking about. Type of call, gun, camo, or bullets had nothing to do with the fact that you called him in or the fact that you did not kill him. Knowing that the wind was not perfect should have been your tip off. If you have an E-caller, set the caller up in a position that if the coyote comes in down wind of the sound, which they usually do, you as the shooter will still be in position to take him. If you are not set up to kill, more often than not you wont kill. Believe me, if you think that was a rush, wait till that happens and you do knock him down. Good job getting out there and really play that set up in you head so next time you can tweak what you did and maybe bring some fur home.
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Im not trying to put you down , just educate , the wind was NOT your problem . i drew a pic of your set up , if the coyote came in at the 4 oclock position and the wind was left to right you should have been fine, if the coyote winded you , you would have never seen it to begin with . the problem was you moved . If the coyote was standing there looking in the direction of the caller and was not leaving you should have stayed still until it started moving toward the caller . this is hard to do some times but its just one of the lessons you will learn in time . never move when a coyote is standing still unless you know it will not see you move, and when you do move slowly. always wait till its on the move and wait for it to get between you and some sage or its in a low spot where it cannot see you . learning to read body language is very important . there was a great article in predator extreme a while back on that subject , it takes years to learn on your own so if you can find sompthing to read on the subject i recomend you do so . another thing you stated that your caller was down in a draw , I hope you put it where you could see it ? thats a hard lesson to learn when a coyote comes in fast and gets to the caller then buggers out and your not able to get a shot . you also stated you were sitting behind some sage? put a large piece of sage behind you to break up your outline but never sit behind it as it will cause you problems when trying to move .hope this helps , jerry .
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:)Keep after it Bob, you'll get em!!
Carl
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Boy another ruff day for me on the eastside of the pass for Yodie's.. First call going off at about 7:45 at the fset-up and worked it until 9:45 and saw nothing but 4 deer way off on the hillside. Working a yipper call using my e caller with a whole bunch of shh...stuff on it... Even had the moving rabbit decoy..I thought for sure today was my day but the only thing that got fooled was me! :bash:
Moved my set-up down the road a mile and half and called until 12:30 and basically got skunked :yike:... There was no other pressure where i was at.. My wind was right.... however, it was rather gusty from time to time and really cold in the shade all morning.
I stopped and talked to the guy who owns the pawn/loan and archery shop in town and he can't believe how dry it has been for gettin dogs.. He did say the weekends are packed over there though so maybe that's what the deal is... I dunno :dunno:.... Beautiful sunny day so that was 8)
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i agree with most said all of us have had up and downs and lets not forget we are hunting predators as well for every one yote you see killed on TV there is like 5-10 stands without getting any. :twocents:
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Going east again tomorrow morning i think any suggestions.... ideas? I am thinkin Vantage again as the terrain over there is just to perfect not to have some animals in it. That being said if anybody has any thoughts of a place maybe closer that could be a hit as well..I am taking my 20 year old out who is back for 3 weeks from Afghanistan.. Neither of us have whacked $h*t but i got all the fixen's, e-caller, rabbit decoy and a brand new Savage 22-.250 that is grouping under 2 inches at 200 yards so i'm good to good to go.. Sand me a P.M. or sumpin and i'll tell ya Sunday at the meeting how it went.
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Things are slowing down some around here, seems to be getting a little more difficult to call dogs in lately, must be due to the season :dunno:
We've only killed a few this week 5 in three days out of over 12 dogs called, going to try again tomorrow morning then I'm calling it quits for awhile. My wife said she would tag along again so maybe we get one.
Good luck in Vantage
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I don't know how good of a shot you are but an 80 yard off hand shot isn't an impossible shot to make. Remember that dog was coming to your setup looking for something in distress ( something moving ) he saw you move but for a moment he is trying to figure out what you are. You were already busted so just finish your swing and kill him. You have more time than you think. If they bolt then o well you missed out on a coyote not a 200 inch buck just go find another one that's the great thing about coyotes. Like previously posted dogs will come to distress calls from down wind I bet 75% of the time depending on terrain. They won't if they can see where the sound is coming from they will just sit out there and stare at you from 700 yards.
