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Title: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 15, 2010, 10:58:34 PM
I just picked up my Savage Weather Warrior brand new from Wholesale Sports and I am not impressed with Savage at all.  I guess you get what you pay for.  Everything looks good but the stock.  I may have to restock it.  The butt pad is way to soft and not sealed to the stock.  I can see rocks, snow, rain, you name it getting into the stock.  Can't beat it for the price though

This thing better drive some serious nails.   :(
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2010, 11:00:04 PM
Yes, those stocks do suck, but for that price you can't beat it. What's it chambered in?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 15, 2010, 11:06:23 PM
.338 Win Mag :)

Of course I will be posting the progress of this gun with reloading. :)
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: jackelope on February 16, 2010, 08:06:03 AM
Those stocks are world famous for the fact that they suck, I would think it would be no surprise. I think they are the original "Tupperware" stocks when folks call stocks "Tupperware". There are ways to improve them without having to replace them, but buying a new good stock is never a bad idea.... what do you mean when you say the pad is not sealed to the stock? I guess I see what you mean but ?? I ask because none of mine are, they are all attached with screws. That pad wouldn't last 10 minutes if it were mine. I'd replace it with a limbsaver in a heartbeat. With all that said, Savages are known to be great shooters at a great price, not known for being pretty.

Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 16, 2010, 08:21:02 AM
Even $250.00 for the Savage stainless barreled-action is still a great deal!!  Yeah, the Savage stocks leave a lot to be desired... but, they're easily replaced.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 16, 2010, 04:06:20 PM
Those stocks are world famous for the fact that they suck, I would think it would be no surprise. I think they are the original "Tupperware" stocks when folks call stocks "Tupperware". There are ways to improve them without having to replace them, but buying a new good stock is never a bad idea.... what do you mean when you say the pad is not sealed to the stock? I guess I see what you mean but ?? I ask because none of mine are, they are all attached with screws. That pad wouldn't last 10 minutes if it were mine. I'd replace it with a limbsaver in a heartbeat. With all that said, Savages are known to be great shooters at a great price, not known for being pretty.



Sealed meaning, no gaping holes to let small animals pass through.  JK. I like my Tikka b/c the butt pad fits firmly and some guns are glued to the stock with screws to support it.  Just poor quality in a gun.  Thats ok though, it gives me a reason to restock it.

 
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: high country on February 16, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
well when you buy a savage you know it will be heavy, ugly, clumsy and shoot better then most rifles costing triple the price.  they know accuracy, but fit and finish......not so much
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: yorketransport on February 16, 2010, 08:41:54 PM
Do they have any more at that price?  I'll take it off your hands for $300 to cover your "pain and suffering". :chuckle:

Andrew
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: huntnphool on February 16, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
I was told that the Savage will fit on a Rem700 stock? :dunno:
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: bobcat on February 16, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
I was told that the Savage will fit on a Rem700 stock? :dunno:

Really?  Even with that barrel nut in the way?  Doesn't seem like it would work.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: high country on February 16, 2010, 08:57:22 PM
it will fit on, but not in.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 16, 2010, 09:04:36 PM
it will fit on, but not in.

Do I need to hog out some material or won't that work?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: actionshooter on February 16, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Sounds like a good deal, just toss the stock and pick up a cheaper HS or Mcmillian and youe still into it cheap.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 16, 2010, 09:59:08 PM
Sounds like a good deal, just toss the stock and pick up a cheaper HS or Mcmillian and youe still into it cheap.

action, keep an eye out for one for me.  

Do you know where I can get one?  See you Saturday at the show?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: actionshooter on February 16, 2010, 10:02:42 PM
Sounds like a good deal, just toss the stock and pick up a cheaper HS or Mcmillian and youe still into it cheap.

action, keep an eye out for one for me. 

Do you know where I can get one?  See you Saturday at the show?

Ya, I'll be there.
Bring the rifle with, there might be something there. Other than that I don't know where any would be right off.
 I'll keep a look out though.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 16, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
How will I know by looking at a stock that it will fit my savage?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: bobcat on February 16, 2010, 10:24:03 PM
Quite a few here but no HS or McMillan:


Savage Stocks (http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=8&categoryId=11792&categoryString=649***20766***9146***11790***&brandId=1103)
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: MikeWalking on February 17, 2010, 09:50:23 AM
Just got the latest issue of American Hunter last night. There's a test of the Savage 11 FCNS w/Accustock and the author had the same complaint about the recoil pad. He suggested gluing the pad to a hard shim then screwing it back on to the stock.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: FALFire on February 17, 2010, 07:56:46 PM
Go here.............................  http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront (http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront)
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: yorketransport on February 17, 2010, 08:07:44 PM
A Savage won't fit into a Rem stock, but there's no need to even try. There are lots of stock options for the Savages. Is you're a centerfeed or staggered feed? You can tell by taking it out of the stock. If the magazine box stays with the action it's staggered feed. If it stays with the stock, it's centerfeed.

Andrew
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
great savage resources:
http://www.savageshooters.com/SavageForum/ (http://www.savageshooters.com/SavageForum/)
Jim Briggs sells stocks there...he's got a sticky in the classifieds:
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,22077.0.html (http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,22077.0.html)
Briggs  is a savage guru.


this is a great source for other upgrade parts  and such for savage rifles:
http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/ (http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/)
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 18, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Thanks for all your help everyone.  :hello:
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 18, 2010, 09:03:30 PM
I checked out the stockys website.  I am a little confused, I am only finding stocks for Savage 110 and I have a 116.  ????  I haven't found any 116's.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2010, 09:15:10 PM
I think the stocks will be the same as long as they are both accutrigger applications. You should do a little more digging to confirm that, but pretty sure thats the case. There's a pretty good savavge forum on the www.24hourcampfire.com (http://www.24hourcampfire.com) site too.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 19, 2010, 05:14:57 PM
anybody know the trick to getting this damn action out of the stock?  I removed the three screws and it won't come out.   :bash:#$%(@&
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: MikeWalking on February 19, 2010, 07:05:44 PM
If it's like my Savage you have three allen screws and one slot/phillips. Only the allens need to come out. If you have the Accustock your action has been pulled tight down into the bedding block which is a trough, it wraps your action on three sides so it may just need a little extra pull...
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: FALFire on February 19, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
Savage 110 and 116 are the same action length. The 116 is the number for the stainless Weather Warrior model I believe.

I removed all of the screws on my 16 and the Accu-stock came right off. Then I put it in this Bell & Carlson Tactical stock

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv85%2FFALFire%2F01-02-10-1-1.jpg%3Ft%3D1266640080&hash=b1112719f9659cfc01debc06a64076313091edfb)
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 19, 2010, 09:52:12 PM
Well I have to say, this gun better shoot lights out b/c every other component on it is giving me headaches.  I got the $(#&@_ing action off finally.  I took out the three screws, and pulled on the trigger guard to get that to come off and broke the dang thing.  What a piece of crap. :bash: :bash: I didn't pull that hard either. 



Picture, look at the fracture by the screw.  The last screw was covered up by the bolt release.  Pulled on the trigger guard and it folded like the french.  I found the last screw and got it out finally. 

So much for a cheap find.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: shoot-em-dead on February 19, 2010, 10:02:09 PM
Don't let it get to you- chalk one up as a lesson learned. Parts should be easy to find in some of the earlier posts. Also- if you keep working that hard on that gun you are never going to like it so slow down and remember that as a sportsman, this is a hobby. It should be fun so take your time. good luck
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2010, 10:04:44 PM
why did you buy it if it was such a piece of crap...tens of thousands of savage shooters must be wrong i guess.
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 19, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Good advice shoot em.  When I get a new toy I am "joe joe the indian cirucus boy with a pretty new pet"

Name that clip.

I think I found what I need at brownells.  
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 19, 2010, 10:06:42 PM
why did you buy it if it was such a piece of crap...tens of thousands of savage shooters must be wrong i guess.
 :dunno:

Post purchase stress syndrome.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 20, 2010, 09:51:04 AM
Eastman's just reviewed them in their current issue.  Not too bad a review, but they did mention the stock.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: MikeWalking on February 20, 2010, 12:33:50 PM
Quote
Name that clip

Tommy Boy?
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 20, 2010, 08:21:43 PM
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Name that clip

Tommy Boy?
bingo
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Skinnyman on February 22, 2010, 08:38:33 AM
I bought that same gun and caliber about a year ago and have put about 300-350 rounds through it. I have found mine shoots Barnes TSX/TTSX bullets really well (5/8 to 3/4 MOA). That gun is a real tack driver, you will really like it once you start to shoot it. As with all guns you might have experiment to see which bullets it likes. It is a great gun despite the stock. I haven't replaced my stock, but probably will someday.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on February 23, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
Thanks skinnyman.

I hope mine likes a cheaper bullet  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Mookie on February 24, 2010, 11:46:13 PM
My 300wm with the POS stock was helped a TON by a simple bedding job. It shot good without it but a devcon bedding job locked it up.

Why was the rifle so cheap? Our wholesale sports is anti good prices and sales.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Skinnyman on February 25, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
Mookie, I called Wholesale sports to see of they had anymore cheap savages (they were all out) but he told me that they were clearing out old models and discontinues so they could free up some cash to buy new/current gun models.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Skinnyman on February 25, 2010, 03:40:05 PM
Thanks skinnyman.

I hope mine likes a cheaper bullet  :chuckle:

Yeah, its not a cheap one, but shoots really good. The only other one I have tried is the 210 grain Nosler CT Silvertip Ballistic (just for shooting paper, because they are so much cheaper than barnes), they dont group as well as the barnes but aren't too bad. Not bad for shooting paper. If you reload Barnes, the cost isn't too bad (at least in comparison to factory Barnes loads). For me the 225grain TTSX with 67g of IMR 4350, with Federal 215 primers shoots great.

I am trying a new load, a 160grain Barnes TTSX (I know why the heck use a 160g in a 338, but!!??) my thoughts are to use it in deer and smaller animals, I just have a hard time thinking of putting a 225g bullet through a deer. So far my first trip to the range looked real good, 3 out of 5 bullets had their holes barely touching, the other two were shooter error. I used 68 grains of RL15 with fed 215 primers. And according to the charts at 2.5 inches high at 100 yds it should be about 2.5 to 2.7 inches low at 300 yds. pretty cool!!
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: bobcat on February 25, 2010, 03:48:28 PM
I am trying a new load, a 160grain Barnes TTSX (I know why the heck use a 160g in a 338, but!!??) my thoughts are to use it in deer and smaller animals, I just have a hard time thinking of putting a 225g bullet through a deer.

I've shot a couple and know of more deer that have been shot with a 430 grain, 50 caliber bullet. Didn't seem to be a problem. Course this was out of a muzzleloader...

Point being, I don't think the weight of a bullet has much to do with anything. Your 225 Barnes won't be hard on meat if that's what you're worried about. Might be a little harder on YOUR shoulder though, than the 160!
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: actionshooter on February 25, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
I tried the 160s out of my .338 winchester more for fun than anything, but found they wouldn't stabilize. Good luck though.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: haugenna on March 01, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
I called Savage and they are sending me some new pieces.  I just got them in the mail and the trigger guard was the wrong one.  Good customer service.  Mistakes in parts happen.  I am happy with their customer service so far though. 
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: Skinnyman on March 13, 2010, 04:45:49 PM
I tried the 160s out of my .338 winchester more for fun than anything, but found they wouldn't stabilize. Good luck though.

After 2 more trips to the range, I unfortunatly found out the same thing. They wont shoot very well (I am guessing a stabilization issue, very inconsistent results). Too bad, back to the 225 TTSX for everything.
Title: Re: Savage 116 Weather Warrior $250
Post by: actionshooter on March 13, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
I tried the 160s out of my .338 winchester more for fun than anything, but found they wouldn't stabilize. Good luck though.

After 2 more trips to the range, I unfortunatly found out the same thing. They wont shoot very well (I am guessing a stabilization issue, very inconsistent results). Too bad, back to the 225 TTSX for everything.

 I found that the twist rate was wrong for the 160s.
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