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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Dirty Mike on February 16, 2010, 08:32:38 AM

Title: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 16, 2010, 08:32:38 AM: im looking at buying a muzzy its a tc hawken stock is mint shape has a green mt barrel and a peep is 250 a good price?
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Old Dog on February 16, 2010, 08:54:06 AM: Yes. That gun sells for over $400 new. In fact I'm thinking the one we have at the Federal Way Wholesale Sports is closer to $600. TC is real proud of their guns :chuckle:
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 16, 2010, 09:36:17 AM: yeah seems to be a great price for what most sell for
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 16, 2010, 06:15:40 PM: yea its very nice not sure of twist rate but dont care its also a 50 cal
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: B.G.hunter on February 16, 2010, 06:24:27 PM: that is a very good deal because they are about $600 new and their warranty is awesome! i just got 2 rifles back from them both a had broken stocks and one was very weathered. they both looked brand new when they got back. no charge!
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Old Dog on February 16, 2010, 07:07:42 PM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 16, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
yea its very nice not sure of twist rate but dont care its also a 50 cal
I in 48
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: lonedave on February 16, 2010, 09:10:43 PM: That's not a bad price for one in good shape, but just the green mountain barrel is worth probably $150 - $175. Also, the barrel is probably either a 32" 1-70 twist or a 28" 1-28, if it's relatively new vintage. The original T/C barrel was a 1-48 twist.
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 16, 2010, 10:17:42 PM: what woul 1 in 70 be good for?
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Old Dog on February 17, 2010, 08:42:09 AM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 16, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
what woul 1 in 70 be good for?
round ball
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 17, 2010, 12:31:21 PM: do you need to wrap the ball after every shot
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: pat2bear on February 17, 2010, 03:16:50 PM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 16, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
yea its very nice not sure of twist rate but dont care its also a 50 cal
I have a .50 cal TC Hawkins and I bought a Green Mountain after market barrel for it quite a few years ago out of Cabelas. It was advertised as a 1:28 twist 28" length. I love it. I bought the rifle used for $150 and it was in fair condition. The barrel cost me around $150.
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: wrangler on February 17, 2010, 03:35:46 PM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 16, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
yea its very nice not sure of twist rate but dont care its also a 50 cal

are looking at putting a new barrel on it or something? why would you not care about the twist rate? thats kinda like VERY important.
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: lonedave on February 17, 2010, 07:28:32 PM: As Wrangler says, the twist rate would be very important depending on what type of projectile you would like to use. Typically a patched round ball will shoot much better out of a slower twist barrel and longer conical bullets will perform better out of a faster twist. There are some short conicals such as ball-ets that will shoot fine in the slower twist barrel and round ball will shoot OK with lower powder charges in a faster twist barrel. Every gun is different though. Yes you'd typically use a patch with a round ball, but I have heard some people having success with near bore diameter balls without patches. You won't regret buying the Hawken, but the choice is yours. Have a good one!

Dave
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 17, 2010, 09:13:20 PM: the reason i dont care is because i already have two muzzys the have 1 in 28 twist, i very interested in roundball but am happy shooting thats why i dont care about twist rate, plus i can chage the barrel to my liking. thats why i dont care
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Dirty Mike on February 17, 2010, 09:14:43 PM: my other muzzy are both knights, One Big Horn and One Wolverine
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: lonedave on February 17, 2010, 10:25:23 PM: Only two others! ;)

You've got the in-lines covered, so now you need a more traditional rifle. A roundball gun would be your next logical step and can be a lot of fun since it's pretty easy to get into casting your own balls, cutting your own patches from fabric, and it can be much cheaper to shoot since you aren't limited to buying pretty expensive factory bullets. You have to be careful though, because pretty soon you'll end up with smoothbores for bird hunting and flintlocks for big game! They are definitely addictive. I say, go for it!

Dave
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: dawhunt on February 18, 2010, 10:30:14 AM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 17, 2010, 12:31:21 PM
do you need to wrap the ball after every shot

When you load the ball you wrap it not after you've shot it.
Bob
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: C-Money on March 01, 2010, 10:34:56 AM: Sounds good! I'd sure like to find a deal like that! T/C Hawkens are great! Post a pic if you decied to buy it!
Title: Re: Tc Hawken
Post by: Mudeater on March 09, 2010, 06:06:34 AM: Quote from: MasonCtyHitman on February 17, 2010, 12:31:21 PM
do you need to wrap the ball after every shot
I just give em a scratch and then reload the rifle. :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: as you load the gun, lay a lubed patch on the muzzle centered, place the round ball in the middle, use a ball starter to get it going down the bore, finish with the ram rod and dont forget to pour your powder first.