Post by: Wacenturion on February 17, 2010, 04:46:56 PM
"The new position is called "Climate Change Coordinator". It pays $4886.00 - $6850.00 monthly.
Please refer to Washington State Fish and Wildlife, Employment Opportunity, Washington Management Services recruitment # 1314-10. Please check out the "Job Summary" portion of this position. From what I could tell only GOD qualifies for this job."
Here's the link.................... :bash:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/employment/jobs/1314_WMSCCC_022210.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/employment/jobs/1314_WMSCCC_022210.pdf)
Post by: sako223 on February 17, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
Post by: sisu on February 17, 2010, 05:04:56 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 17, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
The job description is written for someone with those qualifications that is known in the department. I've run across a lot of job listing like this on local, state, and federal levels. A department head knows of a person with these exact qualifications and gets the job written up so when THAT person's job app. appears they are #1 in every-one's eyeballs.
That's a given...............the problem is the job itself. In this economic climate and all that's going on with license fees, new application process to get more dollars, on and on and on...... what the hell is WDFW thinking. That's got to be the most ridiculous expenditure of funds I have ever seen....period.
Washington like many other states, is financially strapped and cutting jobs and these loonies come up with this new job to spend money on........just like always....cut staff out in the field when budget cuts are directed by the Governor then turn around and do something like this. It's not needed............climate change is smoke and mirrors.....just like this job!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 17, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
Post by: Curly on February 17, 2010, 05:48:13 PM
You think I will make it to the interview process?
Gotta have fun when you can!
Shootmoore
I doubt you will get a call, but I hope you do. It would be priceless to see the look on the interviewers faces when they talk to you...... :)
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 17, 2010, 05:55:07 PM
Post by: spikehunter on February 17, 2010, 06:19:40 PM
Post by: Sporting_Man on February 17, 2010, 07:59:44 PM
Post by: Al Bundy on February 17, 2010, 08:18:55 PM
The only climate change they should be concerned about is the change that will happen when people finally get sick of the b.s. coming out of Olympia and kick their asses to the curb. Then again, they do tend to pander to the Seattle crowd. Unfortunately, they have enough voting power to effect everyone else in the state.
Post by: bobcat on February 17, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
Post by: whacker1 on February 17, 2010, 08:28:17 PM
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The job description is written for someone with those qualifications that is known in the department. I've run across a lot of job listing like this on local, state, and federal levels. A department head knows of a person with these exact qualifications and gets the job written up so when THAT person's job app. appears they are #1 in every-one's eyeballs.
Nothing entertains me more than when government specs a job or contract for a specific person or company, and someone comes in more qualified and they have to come up with excuses as why not to hire the more qualified individual or contractor.
Post by: boonerboy on February 17, 2010, 08:37:21 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on February 17, 2010, 08:46:10 PM
I'm sooo excited!!! I think Al Gore is coming to work here in Washington!!! ;) This is why I wish they would split the state right down the middle (east-west). Without the liberal support of the westside this B.S. would not fly. My apologies to the level headed thinking westsiders.... :bash:
Its all good, I would be moving right back over the hill to the east :chuckle:
Shootmoore
Post by: whacker1 on February 17, 2010, 08:54:43 PM
Post by: wolfbait on February 17, 2010, 09:44:12 PM
I just sent off my resume to apply for this job. I have 0 of the required and or desired experience. However in my Resume I did advise them of the following on why I would be the best for the job.
"As I have not yet drank from the Kool-Aid of the Al Gore crowd, and believe that there is now outstanding scientific evidence to debunk the Climate Change as being caused by humans I would be the Absolute best choice for this possition.
In todays budget shortages and economic climate, with my scientific view on the climate change and or lack there of, in this position I could and would save the WDFW and the State hundrededs of thousands of dollars if not millions of dollars spent on a non-issue. I look forward to being able to assist the WDFW in saving these funds so that they can be properly directed to the propogation of game and fish where it so rightly belongs."
You think I will make it to the interview process?
Gotta have fun when you can!
Shootmoore
Dear Mr. Shootmoore
We appreciate your interest, as long as you are for wolves and not for hunting, you have the job. Also if you can write letters and tell your friends at W-H, the better your chances will be for the job. Please tell them that we are doing our best, and that the wolves will not effect the big game herds nor will they spread diseases that could result in surgery or possible death. Feel free to also add that many of us in the WDFW are committed totally in all of your hunting. Make sure that all of your friends know that coyotes and vultures kill more livestock and deer than wolves. ABOVE ALL, say very nice things about Defenders of Wildlife, mostly because They are the reason your wildlife is in the shape that it is today. If you could add something about how the wolves have made the weather a bit wetter or dryer that would be just dandy, climate change you know. :chuckle:
Sincerely, WDFandWolves,
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 18, 2010, 09:03:55 AM
"Leading and coordinating efforts to educate WDFW employees, other agencies, the legislature, and the public about the implications and urgent nature of climate change as it relates to the Department's mission"
This really pisses me off. They complain about not having money to do what they need to do for wildlife yet they are willing to spend 100k+ a year on a pile of bureaucratic dog sh it that will do nothing to help washington wildlife. This is unbelievable. >:(
Post by: Special T on February 18, 2010, 09:13:15 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 18, 2010, 09:17:26 AM
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2010, 09:20:35 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 18, 2010, 09:23:49 AM
Post by: Curly on February 18, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2010, 09:55:30 AM
I can't figure out why so many people still believe in the man made global warming thing when it was recently proven that the scientists who were making these global warming claims were using bad data and cooking the books. :dunno:
My same thoughts curly....
Post by: bobcat on February 18, 2010, 09:56:49 AM
Post by: Curly on February 18, 2010, 09:58:27 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 18, 2010, 10:01:45 AM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 18, 2010, 10:02:22 AM
They won't produce the raw data that all of the "science" is based on because they threw it away..even though its going to cause the end of mankind...If its that important why not keep it?
Its a hoax the earths tempature ebs and flows and humans have nothing and I mean NOATHING to do with it.
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Jones was interviewed by the BBC on Saturday and made some pretty major concessions, admitting problems with the movement's infamous “hockey stick” graph showing historically high temperatures in recent times. Jones confessed that world temperatures could well have been warmer during the “Medieval Warm Period” of 800-1300 AD than they are today. Jones also admitted he'd detected no statistically significant global warming since 1995.
Post by: Shootmoore on February 18, 2010, 10:15:21 AM
I can't figure out why so many people still believe in the man made global warming thing when it was recently proven that the scientists who were making these global warming claims were using bad data and cooking the books. :dunno:
Because its not about science anymore, it is about control and money. Just look at the history of the pollution, global warming and now climate change. They keep adjusting it over time to fit actual weather. Remember back in the day they were claiming that greenhouse gases were actually burning a hole in the ozone layer causing global warming. Well that was incorrect science. So now they have done a 180 and claim that CO2 is thickening the layer, causing the heat to be trapped in causing global warming. They also ignore any and all scientific data that disputes there hypothesis. I call it selective science, where they have a preconceived outcome and adjust what data they use to fit the desired outcome.
They disregard tree ring data (which has been an excepted data for pre data recording for years) because it extends out the charts and does not fit there desired outcome. They have actually selectively REDUCED the number of temperature recording locations. Not surprisingly many of the data collection sites that were removed were not fitting into the desired outcome. They do not accept or take into account Solar activity into there data as it does not fit. They disregard jet stream data as it does not fit into there desired outcome. It is selective data to reach a desired outcome. You will notice that when challenged with conflicting data many of these climate change scientists and spokespersons (IE gore etc) instead of accepting or arguing the data, fall back on the catch fraze that the science is "settled". They place alarmist labels onto those that do not agree with "their" science and resort to name calling and off hand dismissal of anything that does not fit.
In my personal opinion that in 10 to 15 years if we continue on a cooling phase the same people who are claiming global warming due to greenhouse gasses will be making the push that we are causing an Ice Age due to greenhouse gasses and will be seeking the same money and control doing another 180.
Personally I think they are doing a disservice to a cleaner and greener planet. Instead of encouragement and positive guidance towards healthier and less polluting energy resources that does not gut the US economy they are trying to use scare tactics and swing a 40 pound sledge. The old saying that you catch more bees with honey should be tattooed on there palm as a reminder.
Shootmoore
Post by: whacker1 on February 18, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
I am not saying it is the catch all / end all research, but it is obvious that there is more than one theory out there and only the climate change (higher temps) is getting publicity.
My belief is that this position is directed from the governor's office as most departments were to have climate change beaurcrats to report back to the governor's office as to help the governor achieve her cap and trade goals and be recognized by President Obama.
I also believe that if we get a Governor elected from a different party that he or she can begin appointing new commission members, and push the wdfw to focus on fish and game and not beauracratic wastes of resources. 30 years + of leadership from the same party and the appointed parties remain the same although they may go from one department to another. When looking at all of the complaints about WDFW the majority of folks were happier with said department prior to the 30 year reign in the governor's office. Political climate was different in the late 70's than it is to day both socially and in elected office. I think there would be a great deal of change in every department with appointed positions changing the atmosphere and direction of each department to follow suit. One can only hope.
Post by: whacker1 on February 18, 2010, 10:35:56 AM
Here is the ling to the article I reference from the Professor from WWU.
Post by: bearpaw on February 19, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
don't you mean to D.C. in 2014? Sorry I am still thinking that is funny. I picture myself running a campaign against Patty Murray or maria cantwell or whoever and it makes me laugh. :chuckle:
whacker1, if you wanted to run I would strongly support you. You could run a campaign slogan "dad in hunting clothes". :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Actually you are exactly what this state needs, some responsible citizens serving, who want to make the state and country a better place to live.
Post by: whacker1 on February 19, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
Plus how can I spend time researching hunting on a state computer?
I am more likely to pursue a career as a lobbyist than I am to run for public office. Besides who is going o elect a insurance agent? We rank up there with used car dealers, stock brokers, drug dealers, and the like. :chuckle:
Post by: saylean on February 19, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 19, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
Funny how WDFW has evolved from the old Dept. of Game. Back in the 60's and 70's the Game Dept. had a Small Game Mgr. and a Big Game Mgr. They pretty much handled the headquarters portion of those programs...the annual reports, season setting recommendations, etc. with input from Regional staff.
Now in headquarters (Olympia) you have a Game Program Mgr., with an Upland Mgr., Deer Mgr., Elk Mgr., Bear/Cougar Mgr., Furbearer Mgr., Waterfowl Mgr., and whatever else....at least a few under these subordinate managers under the Game Mgr. Funny thing is in the case of some, like upland game, there is far fewer birds to mange than years ago....fewer hunters, and less opportunity on things like deer and elk, and a reduction in demand for fur, and probably other things....all of which required that.....
WDFW essentially replaced Two (2) jobs from old Game with at least 6 or 7 under today's scheme, with less to manage. Of course you also have a similar organizational chart for non-game. However.......the number of field staff....you know the employees out there in communities actually trying to do something...or at least some of them.......has probably pretty much remained the same for years....Wildlife Agents as an example.
Most of this grandiose organization structure is all about pay scales and how many folks report to other folks.....means higher salaries....nothing based on performance....as you are all pretty much aware of. God forbid WDFW tries to operate like a private business....they like being unaccountable!
Post by: fishnate on February 24, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
This is just crazy...I hope the WDFW is abolished its rotten from the core. There might only be 5% of the employees that do anything to help game in this state...the rest is waste.
The main prob is the people in Olympia! Get rid of them and problem solved.
Post by: billythekidrock on April 08, 2010, 05:37:29 AM
The job description is written for someone with those qualifications that is known in the department. I've run across a lot of job listing like this on local, state, and federal levels. A department head knows of a person with these exact qualifications and gets the job written up so when THAT person's job app. appears they are #1 in every-one's eyeballs.
That's a given...............the problem is the job itself. In this economic climate and all that's going on with license fees, new application process to get more dollars, on and on and on...... what the hell is WDFW thinking. That's got to be the most ridiculous expenditure of funds I have ever seen....period.
Washington like many other states, is financially strapped and cutting jobs and these loonies come up with this new job to spend money on........just like always....cut staff out in the field when budget cuts are directed by the Governor then turn around and do something like this. It's not needed............climate change is smoke and mirrors.....just like this job!
I agree.
Not only that but how are they justifying this hire? There is supposed to be a hiring freeze and justification is needed to have it approved. :bash: