Post by: Big D on February 23, 2010, 03:33:39 AM
Monday, February 22, 2010
By Dave Graybill
I made a big mistake while fishing on the Methow River recently. My fishing buddy ***** had landed a nice wild steelhead and I told him to hold it up for a photo. Just taking orders, ***** held it up briefly and I snapped a shot. This was a mistake. A wild steelhead should never be removed from the water and we both know this. I got ***** to do it and I need to apologize to him, the Department of Fish and Wildlife and readers who saw the photo in local newspapers and on my web site. I want to let readers who noticed this infraction of the fishing rules that both ***** and I have been contacted by the Department of Fish and Wildlife and appropriate action has been taken. This was really stupid on my part. I spend enough time telling people about the rules of fishing that I not only should know the rules, but even more important should abide by them. The fact that we have the privilege of fishing our local rivers for steelhead depends on the good conduct of anglers. I fully recognize that what I did is contrary to that good conduct.
On a personal note,
I have met and chatted with Dave several times in the last couple of years and have always found him to be a consummate sportsman. He truly cares for our environment and the wildlife contained therein. Dave has an easy and welcoming manner and is always willing to share a tip or two about the lakes and rivers he has fished.
Dave,
I hope that the “appropriate action” taken by WDFW wasn’t too harsh and that you will soon recover from this minor slip-up.
I look forward to our next meeting.
Post by: Ripper on February 23, 2010, 09:17:01 AM
Post by: Shootmoore on February 23, 2010, 09:33:33 AM
On a side note I imagine that unclipped hatchery fish survived just fine. 8)
Shootmoore
Post by: snocohunter on February 24, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 24, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
Post by: ribka on February 24, 2010, 07:49:11 PM
3 years ago I held a native steelhead up in Alaska for a quick pic out-of-the water. I know better now
Post by: Antlershed on February 24, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
You are a stand-up guy.Yeah, but did you post the picture online for the world to see you doing something illegal?
3 years ago I held a native steelhead up in Alaska for a quick pic out-of-the water. I know better now
Post by: fishnate on February 24, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
Post by: Antlershed on February 24, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Post by: fishnate on February 24, 2010, 08:57:17 PM
I'm not arguing whether it is a good law or not. I'm just simply stating that posting yourself doing something illegal on the internet nowadays isn't too bright... :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: Tealer on February 24, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Post by: shoot-em-dead on February 24, 2010, 10:24:20 PM
I really don't like seeing Native fish out of the water. They are having a hard enough time and our seasons are somewhat based on their survival.That is a ridiculous law and whoever made it has somehow got you thinking that it will kill the fish. How if you go take a few tests. First- go buy some live fish and take them out of the water for ten times longer than it takes to get a picture. So that would be what- 5 seconds for a pic so 50 seconds out of the water. Then release them and tell me how fast they die. Second test- go put your head under water for a while.
Post by: Tealer on February 24, 2010, 11:37:19 PM
I really don't like seeing Native fish out of the water. They are having a hard enough time and our seasons are somewhat based on their survival.That is a ridiculous law and whoever made it has somehow got you thinking that it will kill the fish. How if you go take a few tests. First- go buy some live fish and take them out of the water for ten times longer than it takes to get a picture. So that would be what- 5 seconds for a pic so 50 seconds out of the water. Then release them and tell me how fast they die. Second test- go put your head under water for a while.
Here is the thing, I have seen fish killed from poor handling. On more then one occasion. Do they all die, no, but why take the chance. Is a pic really that important? I have seen people put both hands under the gill plates, I have also seen guys let natives flop around in there drift boats while they found a camera. Take pics of them in the water if you must, no need to handle them. :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2010, 06:02:59 AM
good law and so is the knotless net law.
Post by: ribka on February 25, 2010, 07:43:14 AM
Fingers in the gills always make me cringe >:(
Post by: MtnMuley on February 25, 2010, 08:08:56 AM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on February 25, 2010, 08:20:41 AM
i knew this was going to happen after a year or two. the law was made with good intentions, mainly targeting the guys that net a wild fish and let it flop around in the boat for 5 minutes, or the ones who kick them up into the bushes or the mud. i'll slide a fish up on the rocks if it's going to be safer for me or the fish to do so...but of course, i'm not going to post the pics on the internet.I really don't like seeing Native fish out of the water. They are having a hard enough time and our seasons are somewhat based on their survival.That is a ridiculous law and whoever made it has somehow got you thinking that it will kill the fish.
save those "out of the water" pictures for the home album, it's not really bright to be posting photos of yourself breaking the law...even if it is a stupid law.
Post by: fishcrazy on February 25, 2010, 04:27:57 PM
i knew this was going to happen after a year or two. the law was made with good intentions, mainly targeting the guys that net a wild fish and let it flop around in the boat for 5 minutes, or the ones who kick them up into the bushes or the mud. i'll slide a fish up on the rocks if it's going to be safer for me or the fish to do so...but of course, i'm not going to post the pics on the internet.I really don't like seeing Native fish out of the water. They are having a hard enough time and our seasons are somewhat based on their survival.That is a ridiculous law and whoever made it has somehow got you thinking that it will kill the fish.
save those "out of the water" pictures for the home album, it's not really bright to be posting photos of yourself breaking the law...even if it is a stupid law.
:yeah:
Couldn't say it any better.
Kinda like posting a video of you doing 150 mph and running somebody off the road. :DOH:
Kris
Post by: Antlershed on February 25, 2010, 06:06:41 PM
:yeah: That's what I meant to say... :chuckle:i knew this was going to happen after a year or two. the law was made with good intentions, mainly targeting the guys that net a wild fish and let it flop around in the boat for 5 minutes, or the ones who kick them up into the bushes or the mud. i'll slide a fish up on the rocks if it's going to be safer for me or the fish to do so...but of course, i'm not going to post the pics on the internet.I really don't like seeing Native fish out of the water. They are having a hard enough time and our seasons are somewhat based on their survival.That is a ridiculous law and whoever made it has somehow got you thinking that it will kill the fish.
save those "out of the water" pictures for the home album, it's not really bright to be posting photos of yourself breaking the law...even if it is a stupid law.
Post by: fishcrazy on February 25, 2010, 07:16:37 PM
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Kris
Post by: The Weazle on February 25, 2010, 07:22:01 PM
After reading this site for a long time now, everyone is so quick to back someone that did something illegal with animals, wether they know them or not...What this guy did was illegal, he posted it on the internet, and all of you are hoping the law was soft on them, or saying, oh its just a fish...shame on all of you. I hope the wdfw nailed him to the cross! Really set the example! Especially from someone that is apparently well known in the fishing world...
I bet if he got a dui, everyone would say, well he broke the law, he got caught, now crucify him...well guess what, he broke the law, got caught, now crucify him!
I bet shooting a deer with a pellet gun wont kill it, but its still harrasment and against the law, and I bet every member on this site would flame anyone for doing it...think about it!
Post by: Wenatcheejay on February 27, 2010, 09:18:49 PM
It's only against the law to remove fish from the water in WA. ;)
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Kris
Haha, Kinda like,"Causes cancer in California?"
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 27, 2010, 11:30:42 PM
Dave knows better. I'm glad he manned up. He is a good guy, I know him personally, but what he did does not only jeopardize the fish, it jeopardizes the opportunity to fish. Anyone who wants to continue to fish the Wenatchee and Methow better wise up and leave the unclipped fish in the water, and kill the clipped ones.
Post by: shoot-em-dead on February 27, 2010, 11:52:26 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 28, 2010, 03:12:56 PM
I would advise to follow the law however I sure wouldn't get worked up about them shutting it down. The ba$)@rds make money when your fishing off you licence and the bulls)#t tickets they hand out.The state isn't in the driver's seat - the feds are. And they are working off your income taxes, they aren't making money on the deal.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 01, 2010, 06:11:27 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 01, 2010, 09:50:30 AM
It's only against the law to remove fish from the water in WA. ;)
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Kris
doesn't mean it's only bad for the fish in WA....
Post by: Big D on March 02, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
It's only against the law to remove fish from the water in WA. ;)Kris
It's not against the law to call a woman on the street the "B" word ether but just because it’s not against the law doesn’t make it right. IMO if you’re going to practice catch & release, there’s ways to do it and ways not too. Oh, and BTW that's a nice looking fish you have there.