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Title: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Little Dave on March 30, 2010, 01:14:51 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/cougar/index.htm (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/hunter/cougar/index.htm)

"Mandatory Reporting: All hunters must report their hunting activity (whether they harvest a cougar or not) Hunters who harvest a cougar must notify the department within 24 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays) and provide the hunter’s name, Wild ID, date and Game Management Unit of kill, and sex of animal. Permit hunters who purchased a cougar transport tag but did not hunt or harvest a cougar must report their cougar hunting activity by April 10, 2010."
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Little Dave on March 30, 2010, 01:20:17 AM
There's also this:

https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wdfw/licenses_hunter_report.html

"Exception: The Washington Wildlife program only requires successful cougar hunters to report their harvest. A Cougar Hunter Report must be done in person at one of the WDFW offices. Please call the WDFW Wildlife Program at 360-902-2515 or email them at wildthing@dfw.wa.gov for more information on cougar reporting."

So you figure it out.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Machias on March 30, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
The hound hunters have a pamphlet that they fill in each time they go, that has to be turned in.  The rest of us do not have to report unless we are successful.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: rasbo on March 30, 2010, 08:56:24 AM
ps,trapper reports and nwco reports
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: shanevg on March 31, 2010, 07:32:12 AM
I went to report but it says I have no tags to report on.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: bobcat on March 31, 2010, 07:54:59 AM
Notice that first post it says
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Permit hunters who purchased a cougar transport tag


If you just bought a cougar tag you don't have to do a report if you don't kill a cougar.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Little Dave on April 01, 2010, 09:14:06 AM
That first statement does not begin "All permit hunters must report"  it begins "All hunters must report"
These vague statements can use some help from the department's editor.

I have this permit.  These phrases don't distinguish dog/boot cougar permits even if that was the intent.

Guess what happens if a licensing vendor accidentally prints out a 2009 deer tag for your kid on March...
Answer:  He is automatically late for his hunting report and must pay $10 before he can get the correct tag for 2010.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: benhuntin on April 01, 2010, 09:16:15 AM

Guess what happens if a licensing vendor accidentally prints out a 2009 deer tag for your kid on March...
Answer:  He is automatically late for his hunting report and must pay $10 before he can get the correct tag for 2010.
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Just think it is going to a good cause.. :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2010, 09:28:12 AM
Look at the title above that paragraph. It says:  
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COUGAR HUNTING SEASON WITH THE USE OF DOGS


Do you have a permit that allows you to hunt cougars with dogs? Then you don't have to do a report. Looks pretty clear to me.

However, what you wrote isn't so clear. I don't have a clue what you mean by this:   ???

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Guess what happens if a licensing vendor accidentally prints out a 2009 deer tag for your kid on March...
Answer:  He is automatically late for his hunting report and must pay $10 before he can get the correct tag for 2010.


Also, did you read this: 
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Please call the WDFW Wildlife Program at 360-902-2515 or email them at wildthing@dfw.wa.gov for more information on cougar reporting
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Little Dave on April 01, 2010, 09:45:21 AM
See if you can figure out the problem from the pictures.
It's my opinion that the state shouldn't be printing out deer tags after the hunting report deadline has passed.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
OK, so a clerk at the store where you purchased your tag screwed up. How is that the state's fault? I find it hard to believe that he couldn't get the correct 2010 tag without paying a $10 penalty. It may require a call to either Outdoor Central, or the WDFW, but I'm sure they would get it straightened out. You are right though, you would think that they would have it set up so that a 2009 license and/or tag could not be purchased after the season has ended. In fact, what they really need is a deadline, so that tags cannot be purchsed after the season is open. That would prevent people from shooting an animal and then buying the tag later.

Another thought, and I've said this many times, but why do you go to a retailer to purchase your tags/licenses when you can do it from home online? If you do it yourself, you have noone to blame but yourself. Most employees at the retail stores that sell hunting licenses are not hunters themselves, and they don't have a clue about what you want or need. You're much better off doing it yourself.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Little Dave on April 01, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
Somebody else must have assigned fault to the state.  I only explained what happens if one purchases tags in this unique sequence and timeframe.

First of all, the plan was to take the boy on the youth turkey hunt on April 3.  I'd like to have the tag in hand rather than in the mail.  My personal preference is that I'd rather not bother the game officer with an excuse like "oops she printed the wrong tag" or "the tag is still in the mail."

I called the state on Tuesday (March 30) and asked about this.  They said that they cannot handle the matter, I'll need to go to the vendor (40 miles from home) and correct the matter there.  When I arrive, they will need to call the state and see how to fix it.

Based on that, I give this one a 50/50.

I've since mailed a request for reimbursement to the DFW licensing.  I'll give them a chance at it for a few weeks.  I'm actually more disappointed that a slight mistake like this causes my son to start his first hunt with a mark on his record for failure to report.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2010, 10:42:03 AM
I see. So you didn't notice the deer tag was wrong until you got home? I hear of so many problems people have purchasing licenses and tags at retailers. Online is so much easier and doing it myself I know I'm getting the right stuff. I've always received my tags in the mail in less than a week.
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: Bob33 on April 02, 2010, 11:16:23 AM
That is unfortunate. There can be special seasons that run after the reporting deadline of January 31, and that may be why they can sell the tags.  I'm not aware of any deer permit seasons that do, but there are several elk seasons that do.  There is a clause "If your special permit hunting season extends beyond January 31, your hunter report is due within 10 days of the close of that season."

My experiences with store clerks have not been very positive.  Unless there is a need to get the license quickly, I always purchase online.  
Title: Re: Cougar reporting is requried by April 10.
Post by: TWG2A on April 16, 2010, 08:57:16 PM
Show Time!

I thought you might enjoy a pic. that I have of two big cats I killed several years ago, but I can't seem to post the pic! I tried to click on "insert image", but I can't paste the picture!  Can someone please help me out?

I was hiking in Northern California back in 1988.  These two were stalking me.  Fortunately, I had my 7mm with me.  Just in case.

The Rangers said they must have been brother and sister, because cats are so territorial they don't hunt together.

They were both 14' long in length, (7' body and 7' tail) and their razor sharp claws were longer than my fingers!

They would have ripped me to shreds with one swat. 


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