Post by: RileyTDF on April 01, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
Post by: SpokaneSlayer on April 01, 2010, 04:16:13 PM
Post by: bearhunter99 on April 01, 2010, 05:18:52 PM
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Post by: 300wsm on April 01, 2010, 05:31:25 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 01, 2010, 05:45:33 PM
300 wsm your question should be more refined :chuckle: with the bull head or gullotine they are doc dead on contact if you hit them neck head like they are made for. with a broadhead depends on placment you get the spine or threw the hips the flop a bit but not much. from what i have seen. if you just shoot them in the vitals they can run/fly off and good luck finding them. thats why i like the doc heads :IBCOOL:
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 01, 2010, 05:50:01 PM
I am using a Ben Pearson Deadhead, on a cedar shaft, with a stringtracker. :archer:
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on April 01, 2010, 06:28:29 PM
Post by: Tom Tamer on April 01, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens. I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead? They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits. DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point? Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
Thanks
Buddy of mine uses them. H said just shoot your field points and get it dialed that way, the guillotine has ( depending on the weight) upto and 8 inch field of contact. He said much past 25 yards and they go whacky anyway. another pointer he said was to leave the plastic sleeves on. they counter act drag and the blades cut through them when they impact.
at least that's what he told me.
I'll be dragging my Hoyt with rage 3 blades attached....and if it don't go right, the T/C encore is always nearby ;)
Post by: skynyr on April 01, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens. I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead? They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits. DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point? Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
Thanks
I'd buy an extra pack of broadheads for practice and use some bananas for targets, if the funds are that big of an issue go to safeway.
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 02, 2010, 12:48:04 AM
Post by: loaderboy on April 02, 2010, 07:24:58 AM
Post by: bow4elk on April 02, 2010, 09:09:36 AM
I have been thinking about trying my bow on a tom this year! If i do i will use the same as i use for deer (standard 4 blade slick trick)I have a hard time beliving that those guillitens hold together good when you hit a turkey in the head/neck. :dunno: Let us know how they work if any of you guys use them.Good luck
Have you seen the video? They work as the name suggests. Never tried them but the video speaks for itself.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 02, 2010, 09:59:44 AM
AND YES, IF YOU DON'T USE THOSE LITTLE GREEN STRAW THE ARROW SHOOTS LIKE A PIECE OF PVC PIPE :chuckle:
Post by: lablover on April 02, 2010, 03:57:54 PM
As my dad started calling and got the bird moving again. As it passed in front of me I tried ranging it but the finder wouldn't read. It appeared to be 40 yards. As I drew back the gobbler started walking a bit faster watching my every move. I knew I had to act quick. I held my 40 pin at the front of its chest, and slowly squeezed. The next thing I know, I saw the arrow pass all the way through the bird. It dropped where its last step was and flapped its wings twice, and was then motionless. I couldn't believe it! I looked at my dad who was 80 yards behind me who was absolutely amazed at what had just happened. Not only was this my first harvest with a bow but it was a turkey, walking, and I was in the wide open. I am now going to try and take a turkey with my bow each year, but we will see. The season is so close I can hear the gobblers already
Post by: Austrian Hunter on April 02, 2010, 04:24:55 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on April 02, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: Tom Tamer on April 02, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
Post by: Decker on April 02, 2010, 07:01:08 PM
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens. I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead? They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits. DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point? Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.
Thanks
I will definitely take my black ice out for Toms, the only thing I hunt with rifle are yotes. I practiced with the guillotines last year just fine without breaking any blades. You can certainly try with a banana, or a hotdog (which has less resistance and is less prone to breaking a blade.) You HAVE to put the plastic tube sleeves on or they won't fly at all. For my practice set up, I actually used one of my paper coyote targets you can find at most sporting stores. I clipped the top to the end of a branch from a tree and used another clip (the black kind with the metal prongs you squeeze together) attached on the bottom of the paper that had a string tied to it with a stick hanging from it to keep the target in place and not blowing in the breeze. This completes the target part of the set up.
The last, and I think most important part is catching the arrow. I would suggest some old coat, clothing, etc that you don't mind getting messed up, just in case. I hunt with a ghillie suit and simply draped it over the branch a couple of feet behind the target. It worked wonders, caught the arrow, no broken blades and I was ready to hunt (confidently) with the same arrow.
It is true what others said also, they are 4" in diameter so you have 7-8" target area you need to hit. I wouldn't shoot past 25-30 max.
Post by: Turkeyman on April 02, 2010, 10:38:23 PM
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Post by: JoeVon on April 02, 2010, 10:56:38 PM
Post by: haus on April 03, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
Expecting we'll screw things up several times lol, should bring a video camera.....
Hoyt Katera XL, Martin Shadowcat, and Mathews DXT.
slicktrick 100's with my cat
Post by: WARHORSE on April 05, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens. I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead? They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits. DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point? Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.i dont know if you have to turn your poundage way down or what but i shot the guillitines once at a target! ever shot an old arrow without fletches and a tip? bout the only way i can explain it! i would have laughed my a$$ off if i would have trusted that they flew like a feild point and just let it fly at a turkey i may have killed the turkey but only cuz he was laughing so hard as well. i missed the block target at 10 yards!
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Post by: Todd_ID on April 06, 2010, 09:46:58 AM
I had about the same experience with them. I could have killed one at 10 yards or less, but I never have gotten the chance that close, so my turkey kills are with normal fixed blade heads. I still like to have a Guillotine with me, but I don't plan on using it first...would be a cool video, though!I was thinking about taking the bow out this year for thunder chickens. I really like the idea of the guillotine but how do you practice with that to sight the arrow in with that type of broadhead? They are pretty spendy to even waste one to see where it hits. DO you just trust the claim that it flies like a field point? Any info form someone that has shot them would be great.i dont know if you have to turn your poundage way down or what but i shot the guillitines once at a target! ever shot an old arrow without fletches and a tip? bout the only way i can explain it! i would have laughed my a$$ off if i would have trusted that they flew like a feild point and just let it fly at a turkey i may have killed the turkey but only cuz he was laughing so hard as well. i missed the block target at 10 yards!
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Post by: WARHORSE on April 06, 2010, 10:16:34 AM
Post by: wabow on April 06, 2010, 10:48:07 AM
not to thredjack but does anyone know what it takes to make those things fly true? i would use them if they would fly straight!
Large 5" feathers or two sets of blazer vanes fletched straight / no twist on a heavy aluminum arrow use the 125grain and practice with 125g field point. We play with them but do not hunt with them. Just standard buzcut two blades for me.
Don
Post by: WARHORSE on April 06, 2010, 03:42:55 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 03:45:03 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 06, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
here is a youttube video of one in practice.
here is another one on a turkey
Gobbler Guillotine in Nebraska 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjwmM7bbhs&feature=related#)