Post by: BIGINNER on April 07, 2010, 11:33:58 AM
Post by: CoyoteSlayer on April 07, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 07, 2010, 01:44:20 PM
thats a 16oz coffe cup in the picture for size perspective, and my foot in the other picture, (my foot is about 12")
Post by: BIGINNER on April 07, 2010, 01:46:06 PM
look like some nice fish, way to go. You catching much else yet? I think I am going to hi it up this weekend. Any tips on what they are biting on right now?the're mostly hitting gold spinners, i use Mepp's Aglia. and also green, and brown grubs,
Post by: rasbo on April 07, 2010, 01:46:11 PM
Post by: lewy on April 07, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 07, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 07, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
Post by: JC22 on April 08, 2010, 03:22:15 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 08, 2010, 07:13:08 AM
Nice Slot limit SM what a Joke!!! >:(
:dunno: wht's slot limit? :dunno:
Post by: Woodchuck on April 08, 2010, 07:20:14 AM
Post by: woodywsu on April 08, 2010, 07:23:51 AM
Post by: woodywsu on April 08, 2010, 07:29:31 AM
YAKIMA RIVER (cont.)
from mouth (Hwy. 240 Bridge) to 400'
below Prosser Dam
(690)
CLOSED WATERS - from Prosser Dam downstream 400' and from Horn Rapids (Wanawish) Dam
downstream 400'.
CLOSED WATERS - Sept. 1-Oct. 22: from WDFW white markers 200' downstream of the USBR Chandler
Powerhouse/Pumping station spillway chute to the power line crossing immediately upsteam of the
powerhouse.
ALL SPECIES - Sept. 1-Oct. 22: night closure and anti-snagging rule. Chumming permitted.
BASS Mar. 1-Oct. 22 No min. size. No daily limit. Up to 3 over 15" may be retained.
Other Game Fish Mar. 1-Oct. 22 Statewide min. size/daily limit. Release TROUT.
SALMON Sep. 1-Oct. 22 Min. size 12". Daily limit 6. Up to 2 adults may be retained.
However, the state regulatoins state that
"SMALLMOUTH BASS
(See DOH advisory, next page)
No min. size. Only 1 BASS over 14" may be retained. Daily limit 10. Bass may be caught, retained,
and released alive from a livewell until a daily limit is in possession."
Since the regs state had specifics on the location you were fishing you are fine.
Post by: BIGINNER on April 08, 2010, 08:03:38 AM
Looks fine to me accordign to the regs.good info, thanks.
YAKIMA RIVER (cont.)
from mouth (Hwy. 240 Bridge) to 400'
below Prosser Dam
(690)
CLOSED WATERS - from Prosser Dam downstream 400' and from Horn Rapids (Wanawish) Dam
downstream 400'.
CLOSED WATERS - Sept. 1-Oct. 22: from WDFW white markers 200' downstream of the USBR Chandler
Powerhouse/Pumping station spillway chute to the power line crossing immediately upsteam of the
powerhouse.
ALL SPECIES - Sept. 1-Oct. 22: night closure and anti-snagging rule. Chumming permitted.
BASS Mar. 1-Oct. 22 No min. size. No daily limit. Up to 3 over 15" may be retained.
Other Game Fish Mar. 1-Oct. 22 Statewide min. size/daily limit. Release TROUT.
SALMON Sep. 1-Oct. 22 Min. size 12". Daily limit 6. Up to 2 adults may be retained.
However, the state regulatoins state that
"SMALLMOUTH BASS
(See DOH advisory, next page)
No min. size. Only 1 BASS over 14" may be retained. Daily limit 10. Bass may be caught, retained,
and released alive from a livewell until a daily limit is in possession."
Since the regs state had specifics on the location you were fishing you are fine.
Post by: duckmen1 on April 08, 2010, 09:07:14 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 08, 2010, 09:14:11 AM
good thing your in estern because us traditional western boys practice catch and release on bass
why would yopu release such good tasteing meat? :dunno: :chuckle: lol, jk
i realease me fish if my wife is working, and keep them if she is free to fry them up when i come home, i hate fish meat that has been frozen.
bass meat is really good tasting though
Post by: duckmen1 on April 08, 2010, 09:25:31 AM
there are so many people fishing for them over here in every little area its crazy
for example i used to catch about 30 to 35 largemouths a day at one lake and now i'm lucky if i get five little ones
people are keeping them off there beds when thats the worst time to keep them
im not against people keeping fish but when this many people keep tons of fish in one body of water theres gona be a price
don't know how things are in your area and things could be different and there may not be a problem with keeping fish
anywayz good fishin
Post by: BIGINNER on April 08, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
Post by: teal101 on April 08, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 09, 2010, 08:51:35 PM
Post by: alanger on April 09, 2010, 10:18:19 PM
Post by: lewy on April 13, 2010, 10:49:18 AM
Post by: Hunterman on April 13, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: JC22 on April 13, 2010, 10:39:23 PM
guess you can't argue with that logic......lol
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on April 13, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
good thing your in estern because us traditional western boys practice catch and release on bassIts all the traditional catch and release that stunts out and overpoulates our lakes. more bass need to be taken to maintain healthy population. you guys dont get it. >:(
For the bodies of water that are present in Washington state, have to disagree with that statement. If the body of water can maintain the amount of bass that are present in it then release them. You only get stunted fish when the body of water can not support the amount of fish in there. And if that is the case, kind of important that you put the spawning females back. And keep the smaller ones, and weed them out.
With all the lakes that I have fished here in Washington state I have not come across any lake that needs to have bass removed to maintain a healthy population.
Post by: wastickslinger on April 14, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
I think we need to practice strict catch and release hunting in this state as well. Maybe if we all go to tranquilizer guns we can shoot bucks and take pretty pictures and then let them all grow to be big and pretty. Maybe start a tournament hunting club. I see the future. :chuckle:
In all seriousness. I am only speaking for the lakes and rivers that I fish over here. Lots of fish. Plenty to keep a limit and maintain a healthy population. :twocents: The guys who disagree probably have experienced over fishing of a small pond in the middle of the city. In that case you may be right. Catch and release mostly. But no matter how small the pond you will still have to keep some small ones to let the big ones get bigger.
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on April 14, 2010, 03:36:35 AM
good thing your in estern because us traditional western boys practice catch and release on bassIts all the traditional catch and release that stunts out and overpoulates our lakes. more bass need to be taken to maintain healthy population. you guys dont get it. >:(
For the bodies of water that are present in Washington state, have to disagree with that statement. If the body of water can maintain the amount of bass that are present in it then release them. You only get stunted fish when the body of water can not support the amount of fish in there. And if that is the case, kind of important that you put the spawning females back. And keep the smaller ones, and weed them out.
With all the lakes that I have fished here in Washington state I have not come across any lake that needs to have bass removed to maintain a healthy population.
Then tell why with 25 fish limits in Twin, Goose, and others over here they still have too many little fish and the numbers of big fish have declined? What happens when you go put too many small fish in a tank? They stay small. What about when you cut the numbr in half? They will get bigger. Lots of studies done on this. Do some research. I do NOT agree with overfishing by any means, dont get me wrong. But implying that stricty catch and release on bass in all bodies of water is just stupid. If we did not keep reasonable limits there would be lake full of stunted out fish. I dont know about you but I would rather catch 5 big fish in a day rather than 25 small ones. :dunno:
Besides I love deep fried bass. :drool:
Calm down there killer, key words were LAKES that I FISHED not some no name twin, goose lake, read the entire statement first.
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on April 14, 2010, 03:45:02 AM
In all seriousness. I am only speaking for the lakes and rivers that I fish over here. Lots of fish. Plenty to keep a limit and maintain a healthy population. :twocents: The guys who disagree probably have experienced over fishing of a small pond in the middle of the city. In that case you may be right. Catch and release mostly. But no matter how small the pond you will still have to keep some small ones to let the big ones get bigger.
I agree with what you said in part. I don't think I said anything about not keeping them, I think the larger bodies of water that I fish there is no reason to keep 25 fish, the body of water can support the amount of fish that is there and then some. Washington, Sammamish, Banks, Potholes, Moses, Roosevelt, Columbia river, Whatcom, and I think my main part is to release the bigger ones and keep 25 of the small ones. I have done my research and I know that those bass do not get replenished by a hatchery and they do not return every 2-4 years from the ocean to be caught. A 4 pound smallie is a mature breeding fish. You keep to many of those and all you will have is dinks for your 25 limit fish.
Joe
Post by: Shootmoore on April 14, 2010, 05:03:44 AM
On the argument of catch and release for bass. I keep small ones to eat and catch and release the breeders. Keeps the water from getting overpopulated and the shorts are better eating that the big boys and girls.
Here is a Columbia river tossback.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/MGalleryItem.php?id=9358)
Post by: wastickslinger on April 14, 2010, 06:42:05 AM
good thing your in estern because us traditional western boys practice catch and release on bassIts all the traditional catch and release that stunts out and overpoulates our lakes. more bass need to be taken to maintain healthy population. you guys dont get it. >:(
For the bodies of water that are present in Washington state, have to disagree with that statement. If the body of water can maintain the amount of bass that are present in it then release them. You only get stunted fish when the body of water can not support the amount of fish in there. And if that is the case, kind of important that you put the spawning females back. And keep the smaller ones, and weed them out.
With all the lakes that I have fished here in Washington state I have not come across any lake that needs to have bass removed to maintain a healthy population.
Then tell why with 25 fish limits in Twin, Goose, and others over here they still have too many little fish and the numbers of big fish have declined? What happens when you go put too many small fish in a tank? They stay small. What about when you cut the numbr in half? They will get bigger. Lots of studies done on this. Do some research. I do NOT agree with overfishing by any means, dont get me wrong. But implying that stricty catch and release on bass in all bodies of water is just stupid. If we did not keep reasonable limits there would be lake full of stunted out fish. I dont know about you but I would rather catch 5 big fish in a day rather than 25 small ones. :dunno:
Besides I love deep fried bass. :drool:
Calm down there killer, key words were LAKES that I FISHED not some no name twin, goose lake, read the entire statement first.
No name goose and twin. :chuckle: Lets keep it that way too. You guys dont know what fishing is. :chuckle: There are so many lake over here that are just full of bass. There are a few lakes that we fish that its nothing to catch 10-15 5+lb smallies. And I know lots are kept out of those lakes.
I have never seen a bass lake ovre here get fished out. Maybe a small pond or two but no main body of water.
And my comments were mostly directed at the "holier than thou" catch and release guys ONLY. Not trying to start a war. It just irritates me that a guy posts a few pictures of bass he kept and he gets flamed for it. If the lakes you fish need a catch and release then so be it. The majority on the eastside do not need it. Just an enforced limit.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 14, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
There are a few lakes that we fish that its nothing to catch 10-15 5+lb smallies.
I think it's time for a Culmrite scale. ;)
Post by: teal101 on April 14, 2010, 08:53:33 AM
In all seriousness. I am only speaking for the lakes and rivers that I fish over here. Lots of fish. Plenty to keep a limit and maintain a healthy population. :twocents: The guys who disagree probably have experienced over fishing of a small pond in the middle of the city. In that case you may be right. Catch and release mostly. But no matter how small the pond you will still have to keep some small ones to let the big ones get bigger.
I agree with what you said in part. I don't think I said anything about not keeping them, I think the larger bodies of water that I fish there is no reason to keep 25 fish, the body of water can support the amount of fish that is there and then some. Washington, Sammamish, Banks, Potholes, Moses, Roosevelt, Columbia river, Whatcom, and I think my main part is to release the bigger ones and keep 25 of the small ones. I have done my research and I know that those bass do not get replenished by a hatchery and they do not return every 2-4 years from the ocean to be caught. A 4 pound smallie is a mature breeding fish. You keep to many of those and all you will have is dinks for your 25 limit fish.
Joe
The point is to keep the smaller ones, hence the slot limits for bass. The state already knows people need to keep the smaller fish and release the larger ones so the population doesn't get stunted from over population and lack of food.
Keep a few and fry em up, they're delicious, even out of Moses Lake :chuckle:
Post by: wastickslinger on April 14, 2010, 09:03:30 AM
There are a few lakes that we fish that its nothing to catch 10-15 5+lb smallies.
I think it's time for a Culmrite scale. ;)
Really??
Post by: WSU on April 14, 2010, 09:40:50 AM
Post by: woodywsu on April 14, 2010, 09:52:36 AM
I personally think the best thing you could do is to catch and kill every bass you can get your hands on, at least in places like the snake and yakima rivers (not so much in the lakes discussed above). There is no reason we should be releasing an invasive species to keep the population of said invasive species high. This is especially true when said invasive species, namely small mouth bass, is eating ESA listed salmon and steelhead smolts by the thousands. I applaud you for catching and eating all the bass you can. Give them to your family, neighbors, friends, cats, whatever....
Agree. Smolt have too many predators between the birds, pennipeds, and fishes. Bass, walleye, pikeminnow spank the smolt every year. They need to be kept from the river and left in the lakes. practicing C&R is nice, but harvest is an important factor in bass management.
Post by: wastickslinger on April 14, 2010, 10:11:06 AM
Post by: BIGINNER on April 14, 2010, 10:13:49 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on April 14, 2010, 10:25:14 AM
Post by: Black Plague on April 14, 2010, 10:56:16 AM
Post by: woodywsu on April 14, 2010, 11:14:41 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on April 14, 2010, 03:04:11 PM
There are a few lakes that we fish that its nothing to catch 10-15 5+lb smallies.
I think it's time for a Culmrite scale. ;)
Really??
I, too, thought I was catching a bunch of 5 lbers until that damn Culmrite made me honest! You'd be surprised at the amount of middle 4 lbers. :)
Post by: Black Plague on April 14, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
just a question, but how are they a problem? Not arguing just curious.supposedly because the walleye are such a "veracious predator" they are all competing with each other and other species for food and space which some biologists suggest is why people are catching so many 12 inchers ...then there are other people who say that since there are so many 12 inchers now.....next year there will be more 15 inchers etc....but I don't know, all I do know is that a lot of trout fisherman are upset about the walleye and it seems nobody cares about walleye as long as trout inhabit the same water...but Im just going off of what I hear...its not concrete data ...
Post by: walt on April 14, 2010, 05:57:12 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/factshts/sprague_lake_rehab_may07.htm (http://wdfw.wa.gov/factshts/sprague_lake_rehab_may07.htm)
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 14, 2010, 11:26:35 PM
just an FYI....the biologists are also saying that there are too many walleye in lake roosevelt and we should be keeping all the ones we catch...except maybe the really big ones...but the little ones are supposedly a big problem... :twocents:There's to many small mouth, not walleye :twocents: I know a few oldtimers who fished rossevelt back in the day and there were lots of 8LB plus fish walleye and now there hard to come buy :twocents: Biologist arnt always right :twocents:
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 14, 2010, 11:38:34 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on April 15, 2010, 06:11:55 AM
In lakes, not a bad idea to release the big ones for recreation and reproduction, but kill a limit of fryer size fish for eats.
Another good reason to put back the big ones, the older they are, the higher the mercury content. That one's pretty much worldwide, as mercury salts released by burning coal are returned to earth by rain. Same holds true for a lot of other toxins that bioaccumulate in fish-eating predators, the older the fish the higher the levels of toxins. Feed your kids a bunch of old bass as they are growing up, screw up their brain development; ditto for pregnant women (the fetus, not the mom, she's already screwed up by estrogen, progesterone and oxytocin).
Post by: Black Plague on April 15, 2010, 10:09:40 AM
Post by: Panic Minnow on April 15, 2010, 05:11:26 PM
FYI
Post by: woodywsu on April 16, 2010, 07:58:17 AM
The reason for no limit on smallies on the Yakima River is because it is the ONLY place in the state of Washington that they have found the smallies are predators of the salmon smolt. They are not sure why it is only there, but this is directly from the warm water guy.
FYI
That is not true. Smallies affect smolt throughout the whole river system.
Post by: Panic Minnow on April 16, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
The reason for no limit on smallies on the Yakima River is because it is the ONLY place in the state of Washington that they have found the smallies are predators of the salmon smolt. They are not sure why it is only there, but this is directly from the warm water guy.
FYI
That is not true. Smallies affect smolt throughout the whole river system.
Let me rephrase the statement. This was from the mouth of the WDFW Bruce Baker (I think it was his name) at a meeting, and he stated that thru all of their research and shocking studies, the mouth of the Yakima river is the ONLY place that they have found any measurable impact with the smallies eating smolt. That is why they have the limit where it is. Now there may be other areas added to the list since. But I was very surprised that they found most of the smallmouth had more crayfish in their system. Of course the Northern Pike Minnow are the biggest problems in most of the river system.
Post by: duckmen1 on April 16, 2010, 03:01:47 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on April 18, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
I've been fishing tournaments all of my life and it's become so obvious to me.
you want to eat bass, go for it. Walleye too. they'll be just fine.
Post by: duckmen1 on April 18, 2010, 12:33:58 PM
at least those female live another day to spawn
plus the females only stay at the beds a portion of the time it the males that stay at the beds
plus the females Will bed in another area they will make several beds a year and choose which is best
released fish to live another day hurts the population SOOOO much much more than dead fish YA RIGHT
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on April 18, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
I myself as a tournament fisher after the fish are weighed put them back in the live well and bring them back to where they were caught. If not doing that then someone is in it for the money and not the love of fishing, I do everything possible to ensure they survive and live on.
Bottom line is an eaten fish is a dead fish there is no hope in it returning to it's bed. :twocents:
And just for the record yes I release, musky, a lot of the trout and some of the salmon and steelhead I catch. I do keep some, why because they are being replenished by man not by nature
Joe
Post by: BLUEBULLS on April 19, 2010, 06:22:59 AM
also, the males stay at the bed after the spawn to guard. during the heat of the spawn, the female will almost always be at the bed and yes, they do make different beds but in the same area. if these fish get released 20 miles away and conditions are right, they miss the spawn.
BLKBEARKLR, you're right about 95% living and 80 percent make it back to the original area but most don't make it in time to spawn. as far as taking fish back to the area where they were caught, that's a great way of doing things and I do it whne it's allowed but it's generally against the rules.
A lot of the fish in our reservoirs over here are released 20-60 miles from where they were caught.
I don't keep bass but I know that keeping a few for dinner isn't hurting anything in my area.
Post by: WSU on April 19, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
I don't keep bass but I know that keeping a few for dinner isn't hurting anything in my area.
Releasing them may very well be hurting things in the area...
Post by: Curly on April 19, 2010, 08:27:30 AM
A lot of the fish in our reservoirs over here are released 20-60 miles from where they were caught.
:yeah:
And they may be caught on the other side of one or more dams if the fisherman locked through......
Post by: duckmen1 on April 19, 2010, 10:44:43 AM
and ya i think even in tournaments its kind of wrong to keep them off the beds even though there realesing them later
a few small ones here and there are not a problem with me if theres that many fish but let the big ones go
Post by: MtnMuley on April 19, 2010, 10:51:42 AM
Post by: Black Plague on April 19, 2010, 10:52:45 AM
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