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Title: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on April 10, 2010, 12:51:17 PM
  After what I heard yesterday in Leavenworth I would suggest that anyone with an opinion on this  issue contact the commission on the proposal since there was a Stevens County commissioner there asking for it again.there was talk of itfor maybe,say, next year. They have dropped the doe pemit quotas tremendously in that area this year to 50 TOTAL for GMUs 105,108,111,113,117,and 121 as compared to over 600 in 2008,and done away with  all 2nd deer tags in the area.
 I usually have my own 4 pt restriction but I don't know if I want DFW to dictate this to everyone.
 Just a thought.
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 10, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
Thats good news
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: winshooter88 on April 11, 2010, 03:10:00 AM
I think the Stevens county guys are going to have a long uphill battle getting the game department to agree with this. All the studies and papers that I have read say that antler point restrictions don't help to increase deer herd recruitment. If you want more deer, you need more does and a higher fawn survival rate. Antler point restrictions can help a little bit with elk, but deer and elk breed differently. Elk are more of a herd/harem animal during breeding season than deer are. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: hunt4 on April 12, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
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If you want more deer, you need more does and a higher fawn survival rate.

and the way to do this is to KILL more predators, sorry I had to state the obvious.  I agree  i think antler restriction does very little in the overall picture.
Maybe a bounty on yotes would be a good start  ;)
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
how bout a bounty on the yotes bigger cousin's, and or cougers!
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: h20hunter on April 19, 2010, 03:10:50 PM
maybe someone can educate me on this. why would they have offered so many doe tags (one that I had and punched) in the area if all of a sudden it is all about antler restrictions and herd growth. i agree that if you want more deer with bigger racks you would push predator control, limit doe harvest, and implement point restrictions as well. Seems to me all three would increase the odds of a legal 3 or 4 point buck by increasing the number of bucks born per year. any ideas?
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: winshooter88 on April 21, 2010, 12:17:30 AM
According to what the groups from the NE corner are saying the herd up there has been hit hard by two bad winters. They think that antler restrictions would bring the herd back faster. They didn't say they needed more big bucks just so they could hunt them. If you look at this years game regs doe opportunity has been cut back. The game biologists don't believe that antler restrictions will help build the herd faster. Deer, unlike elk aren't a harem type breeding animal so you don't need big bucks to ensure that does are bred each year. You only need big breeding bucks if what you really want is big bucks to hunt. If the people up in the NE corner really want bigger bucks to hunt then that is not a conservation issue, but a social issue.  It all comes down to what they really want to accomplish.
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: bearpaw on April 21, 2010, 06:12:29 PM
This may have a chance of passing and it may work well at expediantly recovering our herd. Only by trying it will we know for sure.
Title: Re: 4 Pt or better NE Wa. Whitetail units
Post by: TeacherMan on April 21, 2010, 06:17:30 PM
This may have a chance of passing and it may work well at expediantly recovering our herd. Only by trying it will we know for sure.

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