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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: CoryTDF on April 23, 2010, 07:39:05 AM

Title: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: CoryTDF on April 23, 2010, 07:39:05 AM: So while trying to decide what special tag I wanted to put in for under the new system I was searching for the archery choices. Well as I'm sure you have seen there are not any real Archery specific choices. The seasons do match but they are now labeled "Quality Hunt". So this is my question. Does this mean that for the tags that are for Sep. 1-19 or anytime in September for that matter? Are those now open to everybody? The top of the page says that you can only use the weapon that coinsides with your tag. So if you have a rifle tag does that mean you get to hunt bulls in September. Have they completely forgotten about archery hunters. Do we no longer have our own season or choices? Please if anybody can clear this up for me that would be great. I'm getting a little bit pissed off thinking about my elk season being interupted by rifle and muzzle loader blasts.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Woodchuck on April 23, 2010, 07:41:48 AM: stop by and see me today cory, i have a book here, i think i have a handle on the question you are asking
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 23, 2010, 07:47:27 AM: If you have it figured out will you post it I am with Cory on this I started showing my boy his archery choices then it did;nt look right.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Bob33 on April 23, 2010, 07:51:00 AM: The column "Tag required to apply" designates the type of hunting implement. "F" is modern firearm, "M" is muzzleloader, and "A" is archery. "E" is Eastern Washington, "W" is Western Washington. "EA" means "Eastern Archery", "WF" means "Western Modern", and so forth. When you purchase an elk tag, you must specific (a) Eastern or Western, and (b) Modern, Muzzleloader, or Archery. You are then limited to which permit hunts you can utilize.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 23, 2010, 07:56:40 AM: What Bob said. Look at the ones with the "EA" in the tag required column and they correspond to the September hunts. The rifle and muzzleloader hunts are later in September and October.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on April 23, 2010, 07:59:19 AM: And after doing all of this to get a simple elk tag, then attend college for approx 8 years come out with a doctorate and re write it to make it just a little easier for us all to understand.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Woodchuck on April 23, 2010, 08:00:26 AM: BOB33 nailed it
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: CoryTDF on April 23, 2010, 08:00:45 AM: Thanks guys I got it figured out. Now I feel kinda stupid. I think the should put a little key that explains the EF,EA,EM ext. for those who are dense such as myself.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: buckhorn2 on April 23, 2010, 08:12:06 AM: Thanks Bob I may have been up to late I was hung up on what EF was.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: kirkl on April 23, 2010, 11:52:08 AM: its been labeled EA, EF and EM for years. look in last years regs.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2010, 11:53:40 AM: Just wait until just before the application deadline in May, when everybody is lined up at Wal-Mart purchasing licenses, tags, and applications, and asking the clerks to explain all this new stuff. :o :yike:

I should just go hang out Wal-Mart at that time, just for the entertainment. Or heck, even Cabelas. It's going to be total choas. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Bob33 on April 23, 2010, 11:56:26 AM: There will be quite a few "WTF" permit questions, and that's not Western Firearm.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: CoryTDF on April 23, 2010, 11:57:54 AM: Quote from: kirkl on April 23, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
its been labeled EA, EF and EM for years. look in last years regs.

Yes but in the past it also plainly stated Archery, Rifle, Ext.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Bob33 on April 23, 2010, 11:59:29 AM: You are correct! Unfortunately WDFW assumes everyone understands their cryptic codes.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2010, 12:02:00 PM: I'm thinking the WDFW might want to post law enforcement officers at all WDFW license dealer locations on May 26th. :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Lowedog on April 23, 2010, 06:22:20 PM: So...when I bought my deer, elk, bear, cougar combo along with my multi elk tag this morning why didn't it ask me if I wanted east or west?
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: billythekidrock on April 23, 2010, 06:42:43 PM: Probably because you got the Multi. :dunno:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Elkstuffer on April 23, 2010, 06:59:13 PM: Quote from: Bob33 on April 23, 2010, 07:51:00 AM
The column "Tag required to apply" designates the type of hunting implement. "F" is modern firearm, "M" is muzzleloader, and "A" is archery. "E" is Eastern Washington, "W" is Western Washington. "EA" means "Eastern Archery", "WF" means "Western Modern", and so forth. When you purchase an elk tag, you must specific (a) Eastern or Western, and (b) Modern, Muzzleloader, or Archery. You are then limited to which permit hunts you can utilize.

These are the only initials I know right now: FU WDFW WTF R U thinking? :bash:
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 23, 2010, 07:24:36 PM: :yeah: ROFLOL
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: belkaholic on April 23, 2010, 09:49:20 PM: it took me 30 minutes today to bye my multi tag with elk deer bear and cug, and i was the first one in line. i think i new more then him. 260$ later, and i cant wait to start hunting. :drool:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: ICEMAN on April 24, 2010, 06:16:52 AM: If I was a vendor, I would be really pissed off at this crap. To damned complicated. If you hit a sales counter to buy something like this, the vendor gets squat for all their hassle.

Wildlife staff should have to sell to the public. Then, they would make the regs alot easier to understand and tags/permits quicker to purchase.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2010, 06:23:20 AM: Quote from: Elkstuffer on April 23, 2010, 06:59:13 PM
Quote from: Bob33 on April 23, 2010, 07:51:00 AM
The column "Tag required to apply" designates the type of hunting implement. "F" is modern firearm, "M" is muzzleloader, and "A" is archery. "E" is Eastern Washington, "W" is Western Washington. "EA" means "Eastern Archery", "WF" means "Western Modern", and so forth. When you purchase an elk tag, you must specific (a) Eastern or Western, and (b) Modern, Muzzleloader, or Archery. You are then limited to which permit hunts you can utilize.

These are the only initials I know right now: FU WDFW WTF R U thinking? :bash:

:chuckle: :chuckle: :) :lol4:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: billythekidrock on April 24, 2010, 06:26:53 AM: Quote from: ICEMAN on April 24, 2010, 06:16:52 AM
If I was a vendor, I would be really pissed off at this crap. To damned complicated. If you hit a sales counter to buy something like this, the vendor gets squat for all their hassle.

Wildlife staff should have to sell to the public. Then, they would make the regs alot easier to understand and tags/permits quicker to purchase.

I agree. The limited training that one employee receives (and then has to share with other employees) is not enough to keep up with the changes. I feel bad for the kid behind the counter.

I remember one year I had to fill out the paper ap for the clerk. It was a "sporting goods" store in the old South Sound mall that sold bikes and tents and for some reason hunting licenses. :dunno:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: WonkyWapiti on April 24, 2010, 09:53:59 PM: Quote from: Lowedog on April 23, 2010, 06:22:20 PM
So...when I bought my deer, elk, bear, cougar combo along with my multi elk tag this morning why didn't it ask me if I wanted east or west?
You don't have to choose east/west with the multi season elk, you can hunt both. That is one of the things that makes this tag so cool.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Elkstuffer on April 25, 2010, 02:48:03 PM: Quote from: WonkyWapiti on April 24, 2010, 09:53:59 PM
Quote from: Lowedog on April 23, 2010, 06:22:20 PM
So...when I bought my deer, elk, bear, cougar combo along with my multi elk tag this morning why didn't it ask me if I wanted east or west?
You don't have to choose east/west with the multi season elk, you can hunt both. That is one of the things that makes this tag so cool.

No. This year you have to choose North side or South side. :chuckle: Just kidding. It definately would not suprise me though.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: dreamingbig on April 26, 2010, 08:41:17 AM: These are the only initials I know right now: FU WDFW WTF R U thinking? :bash:
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Well said!
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: flyguide on April 28, 2010, 08:59:33 PM: I hope 50% of the people can't understand it is that my odds will increase. :P It made perfect sense to me the first time I read it.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: Ghost Hunter on May 04, 2010, 08:45:41 PM: I'll wait to cuss after the draw :dunno: :chuckle: Compress it into one rant ;) :chuckle:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: sneakyjake on May 05, 2010, 07:28:01 AM: Are they going to draw the tags in the order of the categories? So if I get drawn on the quality, I drop out for the others and gain points for them and only lose my quality points?
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: bobcat on May 05, 2010, 07:30:39 AM: The order doesn't matter. You can draw a permit in all the categories you apply in.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: sneakyjake on May 05, 2010, 10:55:41 AM: So I can draw quality, bull, cow, and disability tags, but I can only fill one of them.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: bobcat on May 05, 2010, 10:59:59 AM: Yes. It helps if you use the correct terms. You don't draw a tag, it is a permit. You can only have one tag but you can have multiple permits. Once you "fill" your one tag, you are done. You can participate in all of the special permit hunts that you have drawn, until you use your tag (if you ever do.)
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: sneakyjake on May 06, 2010, 03:18:58 PM: Thanks, I'm sure everyone was confused.
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: bobcat on May 06, 2010, 03:26:10 PM: Yes, and I'm sure there are lots of people who have yet to even find out about the changes. They will find out while standing in line at Wal Mart on May 26th, and won't have a clue as to what applications, or how many, they should purchase. Don't be surprised if the WDFW extends the deadline this year. :bash:
Title: Re: Am I reading this wrong???
Post by: steeleywhopper on May 08, 2010, 10:05:23 AM: I can hear it now.. Due to the last minute Luie's buying their tags and permit applications we will be extending the special permit application time by 2 months. :chuckle: