Post by: bobcat on April 29, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
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Additional revenue generated by the new application system will be used to help expand hunter access to private lands, Ware said.
How many are aware that some (if not all) of the access they are talking about will be in eastern Washington for waterfowl and pheasant hunting?
Is this fair for big game hunters to fund access for bird hunters?
Post by: bobcat on April 29, 2010, 09:22:00 AM
http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2010/03/031310_13_special_hunting.pdf (http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2010/03/031310_13_special_hunting.pdf)
Post by: bigtex on April 29, 2010, 09:32:02 AM
Quote from the News Release put out April 27 by the WDFW:QuoteAdditional revenue generated by the new application system will be used to help expand hunter access to private lands, Ware said.
How many are aware that some (if not all) of the access they are talking about will be in eastern Washington for waterfowl and pheasant hunting?
Is this fair for big game hunters to fund access for bird hunters?
I have hunted on many private lands under the "Feel Free to Hunt", "Register to Hunt" and "Hunt with Permission" areas that are mainly in E. WA, especially around the Whitman County area and I can tell you this, while the bird hunting (especially pheasant) is very prominent and great on these lands so is deer hunting. So is it fair? Heck yes!
We are in a time where our state government is basically falling apart (and no I didn’t vote for this governor) financially. I have no problem paying a couple extra bucks to WDFW for license fees or permit fees if it saves WDFW programs and/or employees. I have seen many people on here complaining about license fees on here, but then at the same time they complain about the lack of enforcement! It goes hand in hand! The state will not be providing funding for additional personnel for the next couple of years, the only additional funding will be from us
In California the state created a “Warden Stamp” which is not required for any season but the funds go to the Cali Game Warden program to fund things such as equipment and training. It’s basically a way to help support Cali Game Wardens. Guess what, they are selling like crazy and are only 5 or 10 bucks.
Post by: Special T on April 29, 2010, 09:38:04 AM
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Post by: Curly on April 29, 2010, 10:21:38 AM
And I don't trust that the money will go for expanding access to timberlands.......we'll see.
Post by: Special T on April 29, 2010, 10:36:34 AM
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Post by: bigtex on April 29, 2010, 12:08:51 PM
The pheasant release program should be funded ONLY by small game and pheasant hunters. It is a resource that benefits a very few people.
If I remember correctly that was changed this year. Previously the westside pheasant program was funded from all WDFW funds. WDFW proposed eliminating the westside program due to budget cuts and since so few people use it, this angered the W. WA pheasant hunters. So as a compromise WDFW raised the westside license to $90 in order to fund the program. So it is basically a self-sufficient program now
Post by: bobcat on April 29, 2010, 12:11:51 PM
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Post by: bobcat on April 29, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
Probably pheasants forever, or private donations.
I don't think so. I believe the WDFW pays for it. But the question is where does that money come from.
Post by: bobcat on April 29, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/water/ewapheas.htm (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/water/ewapheas.htm)
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In 1997, the Legislature created the Eastern Washington Pheasant Enhancement Fund using a “surcharge” of $10 on eastern Washington pheasant hunters. Beginning in 1999 a simplified license system resulted in a single fee for small game hunters. The pheasant enhancement fund will be retained by dedicating a percentage of the small game license fees. It will be based on the number of eastern Washington pheasant hunters.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 03, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
I say bull----... They need to show me the lands.. they can say whatever but they also know every sportsmen is not going to research the issue......
Post by: steen on May 03, 2010, 12:17:49 PM
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Post by: Wacenturion on May 04, 2010, 07:48:40 AM
This was handled by field staff that essentially no longer exist. Ware and his peers didn't think much of that program and let it dwindle back to basically being nonexistent in it's ability to deliver the goods to landowners and sportsmen. The new vision is to pay for quality access......less but better. Only problem is when you start paying some, all the others that are basically giving you use of their land for the above nominal costs will also want payment. Human nature.........why should he get paid, especially when he has never been on the program and I have for 30 years and yet you are not paying me. Bye bye. Many have already left taking with them thousands and thousands of acres once open, due to lack of interest, stupid bureaucratic paperwork requirements, lack of enforcement, and general care less attitude as exhibited with letting the old program essentially disappear.
This is so much BS it's laughable, but understandable.............as they needed something to throw out to all of you to make you believe something good was going to be done with the increased revenues. The new permit system is just an example of how WDFW manages your wildlife resources and opportunities...............we think....we guess....we really don't know. Wildlife management in WDFW has been in the toilet for the past 20 years............and needs to be flushed and start anew.
Post by: Young Buck on May 05, 2010, 05:03:59 PM