Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 11:57:12 AM
ANYWAY.. that leads me to my topic of discussion. SO.. I brought my Mauser 300 wetherby custom rifle with me.. and it got a bit rusted up and required a good cleaning. It has some barely noticeable new scrapes too.. and even though I fall in the camp of "life is too short to hunt with an ugly rifle" .. I am starting to fall into the camp of composite stock and stainless steel. Thinking about getting the same caliber, 300 weatherby that way I can switch rifles if I want to on a nice weather hunting trip (because I just love my mauser).
Accuracy is KEY for me.. and love the Weatherby Sub MOA vanguard.. and the price, 8-900 bucks is a pretty smokin deal. That being said, Weatherby vanguard does not come with a 26" barrel.. something I like having in my mauser.
What are your guys thoughts? Just to rehash: All Weather, Durrable, Accuracy guarantee, Nothing less than a 24" barrel
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Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 25, 2010, 12:04:20 PM
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Designed for shooters by shooters, the Model 700™ XCR™ is built for superior handling in adverse conditions. Its feature laden synthetic stock is not only stylish and comfortable, but a technological marvel. Features patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® – a revolutionary technique incorporated into the grip and fore-end areas to provide the surest grip even in the slickest environments. The new standard in rugged durability, the Model 700™ XCR™ Xtreme Conditions Rifle will have you delivering your appointed rounds while the others stay home.
Key Features:
Proprietary TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System provides unprecedented corrosion resistance
New stock featuring patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® on grip and fore-end areas and swivel studs
Features a 24" standard caliber, or 26" magnum clean barrel
Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Receiver machined from solid-steel bar stock resulting in uniformity and strength
Cylindrical receiver design provides a solid bedding area in the stock for consistent shot placement
Recessed bolt face locks up inside the counter-bored breech of the barrel which is surrounded by the receiver, forming “three-rings-of-steel” enclosing the cartridge case head for unparalleled strength
Integral extractor is set in a groove inside the rim of the bolt face, uniformly supporting the cartridge head
New X-Mark Pro™ Trigger on select models – featuring super-tight tolerances and mirror-like surface finishes, it breaks like glass and is adjustable for trigger pull weight
Post by: bobcat on May 25, 2010, 12:06:34 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on May 25, 2010, 12:14:00 PM
Remington 700 XCR .300 WSM
Extreme conditions call for an extreme gun. And never before has a rifle this durable and rugged been introduced to the world of hunting. The cutting edge in rifle design, the Model 700™ XCR™ (Xtreme Conditions Rifle) uses Remington’s proprietary new TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System to make the Model 700™ XCR™ virtually impervious to even the most extreme conditions. The TriNyte System takes firearm protection further than it’s ever been before by using proven corrosion-fighting materials and an innovative, state-of-the-art application process. The result is a finish that provides scratch and corrosion resistance far superior to stainless steel alone and better than any other gun on the market.
Designed for shooters by shooters, the Model 700™ XCR™ is built for superior handling in adverse conditions. Its feature laden synthetic stock is not only stylish and comfortable, but a technological marvel. Features patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® – a revolutionary technique incorporated into the grip and fore-end areas to provide the surest grip even in the slickest environments. The new standard in rugged durability, the Model 700™ XCR™ Xtreme Conditions Rifle will have you delivering your appointed rounds while the others stay home.
Key Features:
Proprietary TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System provides unprecedented corrosion resistance
New stock featuring patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® on grip and fore-end areas and swivel studs
Features a 24" standard caliber, or 26" magnum clean barrel
Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Receiver machined from solid-steel bar stock resulting in uniformity and strength
Cylindrical receiver design provides a solid bedding area in the stock for consistent shot placement
Recessed bolt face locks up inside the counter-bored breech of the barrel which is surrounded by the receiver, forming “three-rings-of-steel” enclosing the cartridge case head for unparalleled strength
Integral extractor is set in a groove inside the rim of the bolt face, uniformly supporting the cartridge head
New X-Mark Pro™ Trigger on select models – featuring super-tight tolerances and mirror-like surface finishes, it breaks like glass and is adjustable for trigger pull weight
:yeah:
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 12:14:27 PM
Is the Vanguard really only a 24 inch barrel in the 300 Weatherby? I wouldn't want that, you need a 26 inch barrel with that cartridge. Otherwise, the Vanguard would be a great choice. They are relatively heavy, but that may be a good thing with the 300 Weatherby, as it would help to reduce felt recoil.
Yep.. unless you order a 26" barrel from Weatherby's custom shop.. you get a 24" barrel. Honestly.. that is the standard for MOST production rifles.. I rarely see a 26" barrel anymore.. you pretty much have to ask for one. But yes, I am with you... for a 300 weathery cartridge, 26" is the ideal.. BUT.. I am starting to consider it.
Think I like best about the vanguard Sub-MOA is the accuracy gaurantee and the fact you can get one for UNDER 1K.. thats pretty great for a production rifle!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 25, 2010, 12:14:46 PM
http://www.falcongunfinishing.com/falcon/index.php (http://www.falcongunfinishing.com/falcon/index.php)
I wouldnt own a 300wby if it didnt have a 26in pipe on it. Ive got an ultralight with the 26in.
Post by: bobcat on May 25, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
Remington 700 XCR .300 WSM
Extreme conditions call for an extreme gun. And never before has a rifle this durable and rugged been introduced to the world of hunting. The cutting edge in rifle design, the Model 700™ XCR™ (Xtreme Conditions Rifle) uses Remington’s proprietary new TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System to make the Model 700™ XCR™ virtually impervious to even the most extreme conditions. The TriNyte System takes firearm protection further than it’s ever been before by using proven corrosion-fighting materials and an innovative, state-of-the-art application process. The result is a finish that provides scratch and corrosion resistance far superior to stainless steel alone and better than any other gun on the market.
Designed for shooters by shooters, the Model 700™ XCR™ is built for superior handling in adverse conditions. Its feature laden synthetic stock is not only stylish and comfortable, but a technological marvel. Features patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® – a revolutionary technique incorporated into the grip and fore-end areas to provide the surest grip even in the slickest environments. The new standard in rugged durability, the Model 700™ XCR™ Xtreme Conditions Rifle will have you delivering your appointed rounds while the others stay home.
Key Features:
Proprietary TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System provides unprecedented corrosion resistance
New stock featuring patented rubber overmolding technology from Hogue® on grip and fore-end areas and swivel studs
Features a 24" standard caliber, or 26" magnum clean barrel
Drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Receiver machined from solid-steel bar stock resulting in uniformity and strength
Cylindrical receiver design provides a solid bedding area in the stock for consistent shot placement
Recessed bolt face locks up inside the counter-bored breech of the barrel which is surrounded by the receiver, forming “three-rings-of-steel” enclosing the cartridge case head for unparalleled strength
Integral extractor is set in a groove inside the rim of the bolt face, uniformly supporting the cartridge head
New X-Mark Pro™ Trigger on select models – featuring super-tight tolerances and mirror-like surface finishes, it breaks like glass and is adjustable for trigger pull weight
How about this one?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278)
ACCURACY THOUGH!.. what can I really expect from these rifles?
Post by: MtnMuley on May 25, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
Post by: longrange7mm on May 25, 2010, 12:32:15 PM
in the 300 rum I think you found a deadly replacement rifle :twocents:
Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278)
ACCURACY THOUGH!.. what can I really expect from these rifles?
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That's one of them! I love it!!
Post by: MountainWalk on May 25, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
keep the rifle and get a new stock and get some bake on laquer. Not a new gun, but cheap.
Cant do that.. its a custom mauser mark X action, shilen barrel and walnut stock. To nice to devalue by putting laquer on. Good idea though for a lower grade firearm.
Post by: littlemac on May 25, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
One thing i have found in the synthetics fromt the custom shop, they group way better than my wood stocks.
But back to the need for synthetic. after using my .340 Wthrby as a walking stick while climibing an avalanche chute, I decided two things. Get a synthetic stock and don't try climbing another avalanche chute in waders :bash:
Post by: MountainWalk on May 25, 2010, 12:57:58 PM
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
A high grade gun that doesn't do you any good can't be worth much to you. Naw, brownells sells a wonderfull bake on paint for metal work. Save the good walnut.
yeah, but what if I want to sell the rifle and their is paint on the barrel and action? Seems like a good way to devalue a firearm that was originally supposed to be a looker. In any account, perhaps this is my learning lesson.. nice looking wood rifles are nice and CAN be used to hunt with.. but either you have to be pefectly ok with some dents and dings or get a shooter.
Getting awefully interested in the XCR!
Post by: GoldTip on May 25, 2010, 02:01:49 PM
I have a Ruger and a Browning both in stainless synthetic, and love them both. Both can shoot better than I am capable of with handloads.
I agree that I would try a different caliber than your 300 Weatherby, the last thing you want is to have two guns in the same caliber that don't end up shooting the same load well. I think you could get a Weatherby sub Moa in a 338 win mag which would satisfy any and hunting situations you could run into in the North America.
Post by: Elk-aholic on May 25, 2010, 02:28:28 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 25, 2010, 02:41:54 PM
Post by: woodswalker on May 25, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
Take a look at what is being made now for Winchesters...think you will like what you see.
Post by: wsmnut on May 25, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
wsmnut
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 05:05:58 PM
Here is a link: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278)
BTW.. to anyone who might be curious.. when searching gunbroker, for retail sellers that own their own shop.. you can get a better deal by calling them up! Beats the hassle of bidding :)
Post by: FC on May 25, 2010, 05:13:23 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on May 25, 2010, 05:14:13 PM
I bought the XCR:
Here is a link: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278)
BTW.. to anyone who might be curious.. when searching gunbroker, for retail sellers that own their own shop.. you can get a better deal by calling them up! Beats the hassle of bidding :)
You won't regret that purchase!!!! :tup:
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 06:21:53 PM
Good looking rifle there, what did you end up having to pay for it?
10% off including no tax.. $750
Post by: bearpaw on May 25, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
I bought the XCR:
Here is a link: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=170843278)
BTW.. to anyone who might be curious.. when searching gunbroker, for retail sellers that own their own shop.. you can get a better deal by calling them up! Beats the hassle of bidding :)
Nice looking gun, should be a shooter. Can you get it with a stainless barrel?
Post by: MDGrand on May 25, 2010, 06:42:05 PM
Rifle comes in black matt trynyte coating on top of a stainless steel barrel and action... that is the difference between the XCR and the XCR II. I am cool with the black matte finish.. I have several shiney show rifles already. I want a real worker.
Post by: Mookie on May 25, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
Stainless, accustock, accutrigger, synthetic, and is about $700 new.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/116FCSS (http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/116FCSS)
And yes, they are accurate.
Post by: Bscman on May 26, 2010, 04:42:15 PM
Very comfy and light enough...and I definitely don't feel under-gunned. For being synthetic, it's one of the better looking/feeling rifles I came across for the price.
Post by: scout88 on May 29, 2010, 10:08:19 AM
Post by: FC on May 29, 2010, 09:41:04 PM
Post by: scout88 on May 30, 2010, 02:51:22 AM
Comparing an M24 to a Remington 700 is about like comparing Dale Earnhardt's race car to an off-the-lot Chevrolet.yes i understand that, im just saying that the M24 uses the 700 action. which means that it is a solid base for a very good rifle
Post by: MADMAX on May 30, 2010, 05:53:41 AM
Picked up a stainless 7MM mag Rem 700 XCR via gunbroker.
Great shooter and good deals on there I paid $690 brand new no tax including shipping