Post by: woodywsu on June 01, 2010, 09:52:25 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on June 01, 2010, 10:15:57 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 01, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Here are a few pics of a bear I found this weekend. This sow has been around the property for a long time and has yielden quite a few cubs over the years. I hope to keep tabs on her til August. What do you think on the weight? I was guessing 350+, but some other who have seen her are think 4.I agree 350 is a big bear. It is hard to tell size from the pics but I wouldn't hesitate to shoot that bear come August
Post by: woodywsu on June 01, 2010, 10:30:39 AM
Post by: halflife65 on June 01, 2010, 10:33:59 AM
Post by: woodywsu on June 01, 2010, 10:40:03 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 01, 2010, 11:09:59 AM
Post by: luvtohnt on June 01, 2010, 11:32:40 AM
Brandon
Post by: bonecrusher on June 01, 2010, 12:10:54 PM
I would defiantly keep tabs on her through the summer. Especially around late June early July. Watch for mating activity, if she gets bred you may want to hold off on taking her (my opinion). I personally believe this is why we see our seasons dwindling, they took hounds away so now we can not control what sex of bear gets harvested. A lot of people take females now, which is starting to take a toll on the overall population. You can bash me all you want but science shows the population is falling. I wouldn't think less of you if you did take her, I just wanted to point out some issues maybe that you never thought of. Defiantly a nice bear.
Brandon
with bears in bellvue/Tacoma/maple Vally and Seattle i see what ya mean about the dwindling population :rolleyes:
Post by: grundy53 on June 01, 2010, 12:14:24 PM
I would defiantly keep tabs on her through the summer. Especially around late June early July. Watch for mating activity, if she gets bred you may want to hold off on taking her (my opinion). I personally believe this is why we see our seasons dwindling, they took hounds away so now we can not control what sex of bear gets harvested. A lot of people take females now, which is starting to take a toll on the overall population. You can bash me all you want but science shows the population is falling. I wouldn't think less of you if you did take her, I just wanted to point out some issues maybe that you never thought of. Defiantly a nice bear.
Brandon
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: luvtohnt on June 01, 2010, 12:16:49 PM
Brandon
Post by: luvtohnt on June 01, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
I would defiantly keep tabs on her through the summer. Especially around late June early July. Watch for mating activity, if she gets bred you may want to hold off on taking her (my opinion). I personally believe this is why we see our seasons dwindling, they took hounds away so now we can not control what sex of bear gets harvested. A lot of people take females now, which is starting to take a toll on the overall population. You can bash me all you want but science shows the population is falling. I wouldn't think less of you if you did take her, I just wanted to point out some issues maybe that you never thought of. Defiantly a nice bear.
Brandon
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I feel sorry for those who don't understand population stucture and Integrity!!
Brandon
Post by: bonecrusher on June 01, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on June 01, 2010, 12:20:01 PM
big nice sow i would guess a lot smaller then 350+ i would say 250 when season opens. i am sure you are right about the cubs she does not look so old to be baren, but if she was i have no prob taking sows that don't produce cubs. one less mouth around that is not producing anymore.
I would have to agree.. A 350 sow would be intense. Deffinatly a healthy mature sow though.
Post by: Hornseeker on June 01, 2010, 12:27:56 PM
A 225# sow is a fairly rare exception... We've killed a lot of 8-15 yr old sows that were all under 175# with no guts...
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on June 01, 2010, 12:31:58 PM
Joe
Post by: alwinearcher on June 01, 2010, 12:32:35 PM
Definitely a beautiful bear, boar or sow either one!! But...yeah... not 3 fiddy....Yeah the guys I was just with up in AK killed a 26 year old sow a few years back, and it was still not over 200#
A 225# sow is a fairly rare exception... We've killed a lot of 8-15 yr old sows that were all under 175# with no guts...
Post by: bonecrusher on June 01, 2010, 12:52:16 PM
this is off fish and games website about eastern region 1. 1/3 of the harvest sounds like pretty good bear hunting to me :dunno:
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on June 01, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
Kind of like a chiuaua after a piece of meat.
Just get that sick taste in your mouth after a while.
Luvtohtn have your own beliefs brother you are there in the heart of it, others are not but probably wishing they were....
Once again woodywsu, very nice bear
Joe
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 01, 2010, 01:21:54 PM
Post by: bonecrusher on June 01, 2010, 01:25:36 PM
Have you ever noticed how someone just can't leave a subject alone????
Kind of like a chiuaua after a piece of meat.
Just get that sick taste in your mouth after a while.
Luvtohtn have your own beliefs brother you are there in the heart of it, others are not but probably wishing they were....
Once again woodywsu, very nice bear
Joe
just looking for some info. don't take it to personal
Post by: Jeremy S on June 01, 2010, 02:32:22 PM
Post by: saylean on June 01, 2010, 02:47:39 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 01, 2010, 02:56:27 PM
This is the only region in Washington with significant populations of whitetail deer and moose, which draw hunters and viewers from across the state.
:bs: You're telling me that there's more moose and whitetail here than in the NE or the EAST...??
Post by: billythekidrock on June 01, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
And yes, harvesting too many sows is the reason F&W is giving for shortening seasons. Some areas are getting hit pretty hard.
Post by: bonecrusher on June 01, 2010, 06:15:00 PM
This is the only region in Washington with significant populations of whitetail deer and moose, which draw hunters and viewers from across the state.
:bs: You're telling me that there's more moose and whitetail here than in the NE or the EAST...??
I'm not telling you anything, that is from fish and game. i honestly was just wanting to see some of the research documents that were mentioned because it interested me to know what the bear population was doing compared to where i am and that is one of the things I found doing a quick scan of fish and games web site, not any intensive studying. apparently it was a very offensive thing for me to do. sorry if i offended any ones delicate feelings :hello:
Post by: Jeremy S on June 01, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
This is the only region in Washington with significant populations of whitetail deer and moose, which draw hunters and viewers from across the state.
:bs: You're telling me that there's more moose and whitetail here than in the NE or the EAST...??
I'm not telling you anything, that is from fish and game. i honestly was just wanting to see some of the research documents that were mentioned because it interested me to know what the bear population was doing compared to where i am and that is one of the things I found doing a quick scan of fish and games web site, not any intensive studying. apparently it was a very offensive thing for me to do. sorry if i offended any ones delicate feelings :hello:
bonecrusher you always make me cry. :chuckle:
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on June 01, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
This is the only region in Washington with significant populations of whitetail deer and moose, which draw hunters and viewers from across the state.
:bs: You're telling me that there's more moose and whitetail here than in the NE or the EAST...??
I'm not telling you anything, that is from fish and game. i honestly was just wanting to see some of the research documents that were mentioned because it interested me to know what the bear population was doing compared to where i am and that is one of the things I found doing a quick scan of fish and games web site, not any intensive studying. apparently it was a very offensive thing for me to do. sorry if i offended any ones delicate feelings :hello:
Bone, I dont think you offended anyones delicate feelings, it was a very nice post of an awesome bear that started going in the wrong direction, sometimes it is better to PM and ask. You might get a better responce from an individual!
Joe
Post by: PacificNWhunter on June 01, 2010, 08:51:17 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 02, 2010, 08:03:19 AM
This is the only region in Washington with significant populations of whitetail deer and moose, which draw hunters and viewers from across the state.
I'm not telling you anything, that is from fish and game. i honestly was just wanting to see some of the research documents that were mentioned because it interested me to know what the bear population was doing compared to where i am and that is one of the things I found doing a quick scan of fish and games web site, not any intensive studying. apparently it was a very offensive thing for me to do. sorry if i offended any ones delicate feelings :hello:
You might want to look up region 2 if you are looking for information on the area of the bear posted in this topic. As for feelings hurt, you'll never hurt mine. ;)
Post by: woodywsu on June 02, 2010, 08:55:32 AM
Mtnmuley, I'm sure you have heard of this bear from Alice.
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on June 02, 2010, 09:30:55 AM
Just to clarify the removal of a sow from the population. I am targetting this sow because we have been having numerous problems with it at the ranch. She is not scared of anyone or any dog. She comes right into the barn and near the houses and tears $hit up. She has never bothered any of our cattle that we know of. When I came upon her this last weekend at 20 yards (accident) she pinned her ears and "woofed" at me. She held her ground and I am the one who backed off with my 45 in hand. I will be removing this bear for protection of the family. To ensure no accidents happen. You never know, if she pins her ears again, I don't think she will make it to season.
Mtnmuley, I'm sure you have heard of this bear from Alice.
Woody,
I would be doing the same thing, and even if not it would be hard for me to let her walk, that is a very nice looking bear....
Joe
Post by: Hornseeker on June 02, 2010, 09:57:48 AM
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She is not scared of anyone or any dog
OH man...thems the kinds I LIKE!!! We've got a dog or two and had many more that would change her mind quickly!!! :chuckle:
Post by: woodywsu on June 02, 2010, 10:44:21 AM
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Post by: woodywsu on June 29, 2010, 08:38:37 AM
Just curious but has this bear been in an area that is closed to public hunting?(Private Property Ranch,did you say?)
She moves around quite a bit. Our property borders a large state owned piece of land that gets hunted pretty hard. So she is on multiple properties (public and private)
Post by: bigtex on June 29, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
The 2008 black bear season in the Okanogan BBMU occurred between August 1-November 15. Hunters had generally favorable conditions during the season. Hunter numbers continued to increase in 2008 to 1,644, which is below the 12-year average. Hunters also spent more days in the field in 2008, which led to an increase in hunter success of 8%, which is above the 12-year average of 6%
Harvest figures and age population parameters for harvested animals in the Okanogan BBMU suggest a relatively stable population over the last 10 years, within the context of highly variable sample data. The female percentage of the total harvest continued to fall in 2008 to 24%, well within acceptable harvest guidelines. The 2008 median age data was not available during the writing of this report. However, in 2007 the median ages for harvested animals dropped to 12-year lows for both sexes, but sample sizes were
quite small (12 animals for both sexes combined). The significance of this cannot be assessed with only one year’s limited data, but if median ages stay this low in future years, then the current harvest rate is not sustainable.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/status/09trend.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/status/09trend.pdf)
Post by: Ray on June 29, 2010, 01:48:06 PM