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Title: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: deadyote on June 05, 2010, 07:58:20 PM
So a buddy of mine and I were out the other day and we got to talking about all the rattlesankes we have seen in one of our coyote holes.  I looked all over the regs to find out, but can we hunt rattlesnakes?  I have never eaten them, but friends tell me they are really good.  It would be a great hunt.  What do you all think?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on June 05, 2010, 08:15:20 PM
They taste good. season is year round no limit.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: sako223 on June 05, 2010, 08:23:20 PM
In all the years I have hunted rattlesnakes only one officer has taken interest and even helped with one. Every other encounter ends quickly with the officer saying carry on from a safe distance and leaving.
I have never eaten it but been present while others do, naturally they say it tastes like chicken except snake keep moving to the end.
The green hides stretch nicely. Don't drop your guard they can outwit you or maybe another one real close.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: ICEMAN on June 06, 2010, 06:30:29 AM
We have eaten rattle snake and found the large ones taste fine, sauteed in some butter, olive oil, garlic and finished in the frypan with a splash of wine, yum... The smaller snakes tasted bad.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: deadyote on June 06, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
So then my next question is how would you clean them?  If I did it today, I would probably clean it like a fish.  Gut it and then skin it.  Anthing special other than that.  I'll have to ask my taxidermist about tanning then skins because it would be cool to have.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: deadyote on June 06, 2010, 04:31:50 PM
And if you have hunted them, I thought about bringing my .22 pistol with bird shot to kill them?  I also thought about buying one of the long handled grip pole things and giving it a try.  That's the technical name for it!!! :dunno:  Im getting all excited to try this now, Thanks
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: andrew_12gauge on June 06, 2010, 04:41:57 PM
.22 with birdshot is fine, use anything that can hook them to pull them out from under rocks if they dont want to give you the shot, i like a golf club personally
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Copperwood on June 06, 2010, 05:41:36 PM
A snake charmer (.410) works great.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: wastickslinger on June 06, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
Quite a few years back I was working road construction in Grand Coulee. We would go out at night up the Wilbur hill and kill 15-20 in our headlights with a shovel right in the road. Man that was a fun summer. I also pushed the outhouse around the gravel pit one night with my truck and my cousin was in it. He was pissed.  :chuckle: (sorry off topic but it brough back memories).
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Kain on June 06, 2010, 06:06:04 PM
Careful with them even after they are dead.

Mangum Rattlesnake Derby Butcher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8rJi68CiDo#)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: washelkhntr on June 06, 2010, 06:23:54 PM
 :yike:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: seth30 on June 06, 2010, 06:45:22 PM
In Man VS wild he talked about that, and to properly dispose of a snake head.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: NWBREW on June 06, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
When I lived in Texas I went to a rattlesnake round-up. There were a ton of snakes brought in. Most were in burlap sacks they would dump them out in a big round pen with about 4 or 5 wranglers in there to seperate them by size. I remember one time they dumped out a sack that had about 6 or 7 snakes in it a out came a cottonmouth. One guy yelled "COTTONMOUTH" and everyone in that pen scrambled to get away.

Big difference between a rattlesnake and a cottonmouth I geuss.  :chuckle: :chuckle: No one got hurt so it turned out pretty damn funny for them.  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2010, 07:03:33 PM
i do a ton of snake hunting each year the guys are right legal as can be. but it is not legal to sell any part of them what so ever i know this for a fact i have talked to many wardens about this and reptiles are a no no to sell
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: NWBREW on June 06, 2010, 07:19:09 PM
i do a ton of snake hunting each year the guys are right legal as can be. but it is not legal to sell any part of them what so ever i know this for a fact i have talked to many wardens about this and reptiles are a no no to sell



Snake selling? Did I miss something? I do know it was legal for them to sell all portions...skins, meat, rattles and heads in resin when I was in Texas. I don't know about here in Washington.

I have a friend that killed one over by Wilbur. He skinned it at put the skin in antifreeze....not sure for how long but when he showed it to me it was pretty nice, soft and pliable. The ones I did up I just stretched the skin out and kept it salted till it was dry.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Forrestrover on June 06, 2010, 09:08:39 PM
LOL! Great topic! I was just thinking about this. My brother is moving to Grand Coulee soon. I remember all the rattlesnakes we saw out at Banks Lake a few years ago.
Ive never eaten them, but killed a bunch back in WY when I was a kid. My brothers have eaten them, and said that they were pretty good.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
i do a ton of snake hunting each year the guys are right legal as can be. but it is not legal to sell any part of them what so ever i know this for a fact i have talked to many wardens about this and reptiles are a no no to sell



Snake selling? Did I miss something? I do know it was legal for them to sell all portions...skins, meat, rattles and heads in resin when I was in Texas. I don't know about here in Washington.

I have a friend that killed one over by Wilbur. He skinned it at put the skin in antifreeze....not sure for how long but when he showed it to me it was pretty nice, soft and pliable. The ones I did up I just stretched the skin out and kept it salted till it was dry.


i was just saying not to sell them some people tan the hides and sell them but that is not legal here and just wanted to point that out so no one got into trouble :tup:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Kain on June 08, 2010, 09:32:24 AM
i do a ton of snake hunting each year the guys are right legal as can be. but it is not legal to sell any part of them what so ever i know this for a fact i have talked to many wardens about this and reptiles are a no no to sell



Snake selling? Did I miss something? I do know it was legal for them to sell all portions...skins, meat, rattles and heads in resin when I was in Texas. I don't know about here in Washington.

I have a friend that killed one over by Wilbur. He skinned it at put the skin in antifreeze....not sure for how long but when he showed it to me it was pretty nice, soft and pliable. The ones I did up I just stretched the skin out and kept it salted till it was dry.


i was just saying not to sell them some people tan the hides and sell them but that is not legal here and just wanted to point that out so no one got into trouble :tup:

Are you sure it is not legal?  Looks perfectly legal to me.  Just cant sell the meat.  I dont know if there is a market for them but I would be selling those skins if it were me.
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3. Purchasing or Selling
Wildlife or Their
Parts:
Non-edible portions of
wild animals and game
birds may be sold or
traded (antlers, hides,
teeth), except for bighorn
sheep; mountain goat;
velvet antlers of deer or
elk; or the gall bladder,
claws, and teeth of bear,
except those claws
or teeth permanently
attached to a full bear
skin or mounted bear
or the raw fur of a wild
animal or the wild animal
itself, if the wild animal,
has been trapped in
this state with a body
gripping trap.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: bigbull94 on June 10, 2010, 04:49:49 PM
they taste fine but are boney as heck as I remember.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 10, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
A cottonmouth will hunt you down and ATTACK.    Most rattlesnakes avoid confrontation. (note) I said most.  Every once in awhile you get one that wants to rip you a new one.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Huntbear on June 10, 2010, 08:22:30 PM
A cottonmouth will hunt you down and ATTACK.    Most rattlesnakes avoid confrontation. (note) I said most.  Every once in awhile you get one that wants to rip you a new one.

I have had them chase the boat, bass fishing in Georgia.  Especially at night.   :yike: :bdid:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 10, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
i have spoke to many gamies about this because i read it the same way but it says animals and i guess they classify snakes diffrent in the reptile area and all have said hell no. so i am not going to my buddy owns a trad shop and has to buy them for like 50-80 bucks to put on recuves and long bows so i could sell the hell out of them but when told it is not legal i stay away from it myself.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: shaneman153D on June 10, 2010, 09:22:37 PM
This is funny, I've been meaning to start a cautionary topic addressing this.  A few months back, a newb here was asking about where to hunt yotes, and voiced concerns about snakes.  He was greeted with a few old timers from the coast saying not to worry about them, etc. 

This is the wrong attitude to have if you're going to sneak around certain parts of E. WA in warm weather!  Terrain and wildlife vary greatly here, and some places have them, some don't.  My hunting buddy killed 45 in one day, on one rockslide, on April 15th 09.  They were up there investigating some rock chuck homicides and there they were.

Shovel works great, you can use it as a shield when they strike too.  Snake shot out of a .357 works good too.  I haven't tried 22 birdshot, but I guess it works according to others.  Snakes don't taste like chicken, they have the texture of shrimp/crawdad/lobster, and I can't describe the taste (I can't stand them).

One more cautionary note - and I know it's already been said don't f%$k around with the heads, bury them.  I had a guy in my SERE school class get bit by a dead Eastern diamondback.  Even though the instructors told us to bury the head, this dip*censored* skinned it's neck and stretched it over his walking stick.  After about 20ft of walking, the head fell off, hit his hand, and he had to get MEDEVAC'd out.   IIRC, they made him restart SERE school the next month  :chuckle:

Jesus, he's from WA state too, I hope he's reading this  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: sako223 on June 10, 2010, 09:58:36 PM
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: NWBREW on June 11, 2010, 01:05:39 AM
Sako...That pic looks like a bull snake or what some might call a gopher snake.   Cool pic. :tup:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on June 11, 2010, 01:19:53 AM
I use to catch them in GA all the time.  I never went anywere with out atleast one 5 gallon bucket and a snake stick.  Than I took them home alive and put them in my freezer.  No damage that way.  Caught a Cotton Mouth one time.  I think it was about 4 - 4 1/2 ft.  That was the only reason I caught it. 
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 11, 2010, 05:28:02 AM
How did they taste?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:00:23 AM
Not much meat on one of those Sako.  That is a bullsnake or gopher snake.



I think I'd distance myself from that guy Shaneman. LOL
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:09:04 AM
I don't think I got these posted on here.  These are from my hike on Memorial day
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:09:25 AM
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:11:38 AM
This one was one of those rare ones that wanted to fight.   I had to educate him and yes, I use 22 mag snake shot.  I've killed alot of snakes with the regular, but it often times doesn't immobilize them.  I caution you however on 38 or 357 and especially 410.  Make sure you have eye protection on, NO JOKE, as you get a lot of kickback from either rock debri or lead, and its a great way to lose an eye. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2FAntler%2520Images%2Fm6.jpg&hash=8a79c96908af359fc31f5482f53055428f998271)
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: rasbo on June 11, 2010, 06:14:16 AM
they taste like frog to me...Tried it once that was enough for me..just the Snake part ,like bobcats too..negatory on that...I had the wire from an old metal bed mattress that worked great for pulling them outta rocks,and pinning them down to relieve them of their head..
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:16:31 AM
They won't taste bad if you aren't the one that skins them.  If you are the one that skins them, or very many of them, then you are probably less likely to think they are palatable.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: rasbo on June 11, 2010, 06:19:54 AM
They won't taste bad if you aren't the one that skins them.  If you are the one that skins them, or very many of them, then you are probably less likely to think they are palatable.
they are like killing pigs and cleaning them,the smell just sticks with ya.I made 35 bucks each for the hides in the early 80s..not many of the high desert snakes were long enough for belts but made great hat bands
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: boneaddict on June 11, 2010, 06:23:40 AM
I don't want to even know how much money I have left out there in poision and hides.   In the 80's the pharmacy companies used to want the venom.   I think they have gone to something else now.  I'd run into commercial guys milking them.  They didn't appreciate me killing them.  Now I just take their pics for the most part.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: rasbo on June 11, 2010, 06:31:10 AM
I don't want to even know how much money I have left out there in poision and hides.   In the 80's the pharmacy companies used to want the venom.   I think they have gone to something else now.  I'd run into commercial guys milking them.  They didn't appreciate me killing them.  Now I just take their pics for the most part.
we gave these gals that ran a lookout tower for fires whiskey and they would give us lightning strke areas,we would go there where the grass was burned off,then catch the snakes as they came out to sun..good times but now just let them be..would like to get a band though,my partner shot mine up yrs back :chuckle:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: sako223 on June 11, 2010, 07:27:24 AM
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Sako...That pic looks like a bull snake or what some might call a gopher snake.   Cool pic.

Yeah just wondered how long til someone noticed. I ran into him in the driveway yesterday.
Here is the ugly one.

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Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Clipboard guy on June 11, 2010, 08:15:47 AM
Bowhunting in Wyo. and almost stepped on this little rattlesnake. Thinking "this isn't something I see everday in my shadow" I took the pic before stepping around it.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 11, 2010, 08:52:31 AM
We have eaten a fair amount of them for survival training.  As has been stated over and over, they taste pretty good.  The bigger the better (mostly for the bones).  CoryTDF was always our "snakemaster" when he was one of my instructors.  He used to catch them with a garden claw.
Skinning is easy, cut off the head, and isolate it (buried, etc..).  Seperate the skin from the body enough so you can grasp the meat with one hand and the skin with the other, then pull them apart.  The guts should come out with the skin.  If they don't, just pull them out like you would a trout.  Too easy.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: deadyote on June 11, 2010, 03:49:53 PM
Shaneman153d -
Where were you when u saw all those snakes?  I'll head there this weekend. 
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: shaneman153D on June 11, 2010, 05:37:36 PM
Bone- Nice pics.  I hope, for your sake, you're not using a wide-angle lens  ;)

Deadyote - Near the Palouse river in Whitman county (hour W/NW of Pullman).  I wasn't there, this was before I started hunting with my buddy Cliff.  We see lots of them while we're out there working.  It's funny because as a kid we used to vacation over at Potholes, (I lived in Spanaway) I spent a lot of time out ther and never saw one.  Over here they're all over the place.  If you walk loud and wear boots you'll probably be alright.  Both of my Heelers have rattler vaccines, so they are my early-warning snake detection system.

Shane



Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: floatinghat on June 11, 2010, 06:44:54 PM
So does killing lots of rattlers increase the vermin population?  And in turn increase the yote feed and up the yote population?
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Kain on June 11, 2010, 11:00:45 PM
So does killing lots of rattlers increase the vermin population?  And in turn increase the yote feed and up the yote population?

I dont know if enough snakes are killed to make a huge difference but more small prey are good for all predators.  Raptors, coyote, bears, cats...  More small prey could mean less fawn/calf deaths also.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: wsucowboy on June 28, 2010, 10:50:49 AM
i usually run into one or two each year when i go camping at burke lake (mid April). I didn't see any this year but the weather was awful. it was even spitting snow on us the first day. last year me and my buddy killed one on the cliff over looking dusty. In the same spot we killed that snake there was another in the rock crack rattling at us. always a good idea to be careful over east. some spots have a lot of snakes. i'm going camping at bumping lake next weekend and was wondering if anybody has seen any rattle snakes over there.
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: spikehunter on July 10, 2010, 06:57:14 PM
do they make enough ammo for a snake round-up? :yike:
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: trotterlg on July 14, 2010, 12:06:57 PM
To eat a rattlesnake you need to only eat the two back straps on either side of the spine.  Just strip out those two muscels full length and cut them up in 1 inch lengths, then batter and fry them up.  The rest of the snake isn't really any good to eat.  Larry
Title: Re: Rattlesnake hunting?
Post by: Red Beard on September 04, 2013, 08:20:55 PM
This topic is great! My buddy and I were talking about doing this last night.
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