Post by: fishnate on June 11, 2010, 01:57:27 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 11, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
Of course, I don't think that you can go wrong with any of the big name barrel companies. They all make great products.
Andrew
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 11, 2010, 11:13:24 PM
-Steve
Post by: fishnate on June 12, 2010, 05:58:08 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 12, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
Andrew
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 12, 2010, 08:39:11 PM
-Steve
Post by: MtnMuley on June 12, 2010, 08:50:05 PM
A longer barrel does not necessarily mean more accuracy.
-Steve
:yeah:
Post by: G.R.K on June 12, 2010, 10:34:59 PM
Post by: FALFire on June 13, 2010, 08:25:22 AM
I'd go with a 30" barrel,should dial it right in. :chuckle: :chuckle:
LOL........Ha, ha you know a 40"r will get'cha closer to the target so you can hit it, that's accuracy. :rolleyes: :chuckle:
In all seriousness, the length of the barrel has little to do with accuracy, however it will effect velocity. We need to know what you are using the rifle for because it's possible you are headed in the wrong direction. For a hunting gun you would be better off with a good quality barrel around 22-24 inches. I have a 16" barreled AR10 that is extremely accurate but the velocity is hampered due to the short burn time in the tube.
Post by: Elk-aholic on June 13, 2010, 09:08:05 AM
Post by: fishnate on June 13, 2010, 02:07:59 PM
Post by: MDGrand on June 13, 2010, 04:28:52 PM
Post by: fishnate on June 13, 2010, 08:05:14 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 13, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
Do you still want this to be a hunting rifle or are you planning to compete with it? What is the time interval between shots for barrel cooldown or are all of these shots from a cold barrel? If not, How much does the cold bore shot deviate from the third - fifth warm barrel shot? Although I don't even own one, I'm partial to the Schillen barrels in fluted bull design that disipate heat incredibly well and from what I've seen will print groups like you show even when the bore is warm. But don't expect much better accuracy from a cold bore shot. All you can strive for now is better consistency from a warm barrel.
-Steve
Post by: e55komp on June 13, 2010, 09:09:17 PM
Post by: predatorpro on June 13, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
Post by: jjhunter on June 13, 2010, 09:26:48 PM
Christensen barrels? POS. They are turned-down shilen "match" barrels......those are barrels that don't meet "select match" tolerances. A $1000 barrel and you can't get the best???? Also, those barrels are button rifled, which means that steel is displaced in the rifling process. Any alteration to the diameter of the tube will change the internal dimensions of that tube. Not conducive to accuracy!
If you want a carbon barrel, go with ABS. They use Mike Rock premium, cut-rifled liners. Those barrels will shoot!
Post by: Bob33 on June 13, 2010, 09:42:01 PM
Post by: fishnate on June 13, 2010, 10:15:26 PM
Anyone that would complain about less than .75moa/100yd from a magnum rifle should have their head examined. :dunno:
Do you still want this to be a hunting rifle or are you planning to compete with it? What is the time interval between shots for barrel cooldown or are all of these shots from a cold barrel? If not, How much does the cold bore shot deviate from the third - fifth warm barrel shot? Although I don't even own one, I'm partial to the Schillen barrels in fluted bull design that disipate heat incredibly well and from what I've seen will print groups like you show even when the bore is warm. But don't expect much better accuracy from a cold bore shot. All you can strive for now is better consistency from a warm barrel.
-Steve
By no means complaining no I dont compete maybe with my friends. Just something I want to do :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on June 13, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
:twocents:
Leave it alone...put the $$ towards another rifle build.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 13, 2010, 10:55:03 PM
Post by: ecnclan on June 14, 2010, 08:04:27 AM
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A longer barrel is more likely to decrease accuracy; not the other way around. That's especially true with lighter contours. If you're getting groups under 1 MOA with a hunting rifle you're crazy to do anything.:yeah:
No guarantee that the new barrel will be any better and may be worse. All three brands are quality with lilja being probably the best but most expensive. I have Shilen and Douglas barrels and have been happy but I the groups you are getting would make me happy. As far as barrel length and velocity, you can pick up approx 50-75 fps with each additional inch of barrel. :twocents:
Post by: rbros on June 14, 2010, 09:09:32 AM
The Broughton will give you the most speed from what I have experienced. Shilen and Douglas just don't seem to be up to par with the other barrel manufacturers. If you look at the benchrest stats, you will see Broughton and Kreiger winning. This carries over into the hunting world. Although you don't need a sub 1/2moa rifle to hunt with, it surely doesn't hurt. My personal 338 Edge will shoot under 1/2 moa all day long. Magnum rifles can be tack drivers, they just need a good barrel and good machining.
Now before the flaming starts about "my Shilen shoots better than that", this is my personal experience in building rifles and looking at different barrels with a borescope. I build 50-75 rifles a year, and get to look at alot of barrels.
Post by: fishnate on June 14, 2010, 05:28:39 PM
Although you don't need a sub 1/2moa rifle to hunt with, it surely doesn't hurt. My personal 338 Edge will shoot under 1/2 moa all day long. Magnum rifles can be tack drivers, they just need a good barrel and good machining
:yeah: That is all I am trying to do thanks for the help guys.
Post by: MountainWalk on June 14, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
Post by: Cascade_Sherpa on June 16, 2010, 03:59:09 PM
Post by: Jamieb on June 16, 2010, 04:13:31 PM
I dont think you can make a wrong choice as long as you stick with a reputable maker. I think you should start by picking a gunsmith and then get his advise on what barrel to use, he'll most likely have a opinion and a idea of how long wait times will be.
IMHO stay away from the cheaper barrels, Shaw and Adams & Bennett come to mind right off.
Post by: Cascade_Sherpa on June 17, 2010, 04:15:04 PM
Post by: Guy on June 19, 2010, 02:28:26 PM
That said, with a .69" group from a hunting rifle - I wouldn't change a thing.
Post by: Rufous on June 24, 2010, 12:30:00 PM
Saying that this guy used to be the gunsmith for Arnold Arms is the worst possible endorsement you could give in my opinion. I had long drawn out nasty dealings with Arnold Arms. That SOB was a crook, sheister A-hole etc. Maybe this buy who owns Benchmark is a good guy but sorry pal any association with Arnold Arms my skin crawl.