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Title: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: engelwood on June 18, 2010, 08:45:13 AM
Alright, so two years ago I was getting my PSE X-Force bow setup and had multiple people tell me that it would be nearly impossible to get a bow of that speed (chrono yesterday showed 293 fps) to paper tune with a whisker biscuit. Does anyone agree with this or do you think I will be fine to switch to the whisker biscuit. Right now I have a trophy taker fall away rest and since a lot of my hunting is done in the thick woods, I would rather have the whisker biscuit so I don't have to worry about my arrow falling off. Also, my arrow will jump off the rest sometimes when I draw which is either just me, or the fact that I might be having some nock pinch with the string, either way, these are things that I don't want to have to worry about when I draw back on my bull this year  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 18, 2010, 08:50:13 AM
i shot mine with a biscuit before i got the trophy taker full containment and there is no way the arrow can fall off the rest best of both worlds. but you should be fine with the biscuit if you want one of those.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: Sneaky on June 18, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
whisker biscuit will be fine. Check out some of the youtube videos about them, there aren't any accuracy issues.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: brianmtsinc on June 18, 2010, 08:58:25 AM
I have a PSE X-Force SS with a whisker biscut - no problems tuning it and I killed an elk opening day last year! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: JBar on June 18, 2010, 09:08:28 AM
Only problem I've noticed is with the longer draw length guys. I think because the arrow stays in the rest longer the follow through is much more critical. I'm talkin longer than 29 inch draw. Speed has really never been an issue that i've seen but then speed normally comes with draw length.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: Sneaky on June 18, 2010, 09:23:43 AM
Only problem I've noticed is with the longer draw length guys. I think because the arrow stays in the rest longer the follow through is much more critical. I'm talkin longer than 29 inch draw. Speed has really never been an issue that i've seen but then speed normally comes with draw length.

I shoot a whisker biscuit on my 30" draw 07 black ice, have noticed that the type of fletching you use makes a HUGE difference. Once I found which one the rest wouldn't grab, its shooting great. WB can definitely effect the 2" blazers and anything with kickers like quickspins and helicals etc.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 18, 2010, 09:43:59 AM
Qad ultra rest, best of both worlds
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 18, 2010, 10:04:39 AM
I shoot a whisker biscuit on my Elite.  No accuracy issues.  The guy at the bow shop that I bought the bow from said I may lose a couple of feet per second (in his opinion, WBs slow the arrow down), but it should not effect anything else...
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 19, 2010, 04:14:10 PM
I had a whisker on my Mathews Drenalin ( not the fastest bow ) for two years ( 29" draw ) and I fought that thing the whole two years. My bow was very tempermental ! I'm sure it had something to do with my form. I could shoot with my grip hand open or with my finger tips barley touching the grip and my shot was 4" to the right of the other. I switched to the Trophy Taker drop away and it took care of all my problems. I messed with that whisker for two years and never achieved any thing near the drop away as far as accuracy, consistency & forgiveness. I'll never go back. Mike
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 19, 2010, 04:18:20 PM
yeah the drop aways are a few fps faster and has been long debated that the drop away are better because of the group size but. i know he put one on his bow yesterday and its all tuned up and he shoot the blazers as well so i am sure he will be fine. just remeber to spray that thing down so it does not get wet and clumpy cause if i come down and call a bull in and you blame it on the new rest you getting kicked in the bean bag :chuckle:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: engelwood on June 21, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Well I made the switch to the WB and so far am a lot more confident when I draw, but I am heading back to the shop tonight after work to get it fine tuned. It shot alright through the paper, but when at my range I can see some initial deflection with the arrow prior to the vanes straitening it out. I'll see how it goes.

Overall I was shooting 293 fps through the Chrono with the Trophy Taker and now that I have the WB and got the timing adjusted and tighted the bow to 71 lbs it is shooting exactly 300 fps. Don't know for sure, but I don't think the WB would've slowed it down more than 3-4 fps, hard to tell since those other things were adjusted. We will see how tonight goes.....
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: micdude on June 27, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
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Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: monster10 on June 27, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Whats up,Im shooting a MonsterXLR8 326fps.My biscuit does great I had a mathews down force,( but not enough down force).Dont knock the biscuit . Great in the think stuff.   Happy Hunting.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: coachcw on June 27, 2010, 09:19:56 PM
I love a good biscuit
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: dreamingbig on June 28, 2010, 12:41:23 PM
In my opinion there are so many better options than a whisker biscuit.  Two or three good drop aways come to mind.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: tritt007 on June 29, 2010, 09:57:41 PM
got one on my bear showdown 60-70 lb draw, works great.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: coachcw on June 30, 2010, 04:45:51 PM
I've shoot tons of rest from bow doodles to biscuits to ultra and rip cords . They all have pros and cons the biscuit is simple and works well in the woods , If your a speed freak and shoot a bunch then no doubt a fall away is a better choice . your biscuit on a hi speed bow is kinda like a small block chev in a lambo. good but not suited . I had a fall away fall and stay on a nice buck once then I went to the biscuit for hunting . i've almost for got about that so maybe its time to mount the new octane I got in the box and giver a try.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: robb92 on July 05, 2010, 07:21:41 AM
I have one on my PSE, there was an article in one of the bow mags about trimming some of the brissles down to help with arrow flight and speed, never did it because I haven't had any issues, but you could google it to find out more about it.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: RENEGADE on July 05, 2010, 10:43:26 AM
I've also shot with bo doodles, tm hunter,, etc,, i never could get over looking at the rest during draw or after, to make sure my arrow was still on it.. i shoot a turbo hawk now with a WB and haven't had any problems, think it will help me in the brush too. i can see where fletchings could be an issue as someone mentioned. keep it simple.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: dreamunelk on July 06, 2010, 08:46:18 PM
I find the WB is grate if you hunting open county.  But, I hunt the OP.  After spending last season picking conifer needles, twigs, shredded leaves out of mine all season, well it is history!  This an issue with any rest in this country.  You can usually clean things up quietly and quickly, not so with the WB.  One conifer needle that has worked its way in and it is over.  just my  :twocents: worth.
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: Antlerjunkie on July 09, 2010, 08:09:39 PM
The only thing I don't like about my whisker Biscuit is that it can wear a groove in it when you shoot it a lot. My buddy just replaced his  with a drop away but I'm just going to buy a replacement biscuit for mine before the season starts.

I really like mine and my son has one on his bow too (Hoyt Turbohawk (mine) and a Bear Lights out(his))

 
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: hawk eyes on July 09, 2010, 08:55:05 PM
my girlfreinds whisker biscuit always make me shoot straight/BAM had to see that coming :yike:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: JBar on July 10, 2010, 10:07:18 AM
Just tuned a buddys Destroyer 350 with a biscuit, it can be done!
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: engelwood on July 14, 2010, 04:19:33 PM
Nice one Hawk Eyes, but she did mention there was too much space between the arrow shaft and the biscuit... ouch  :bdid:
Title: Re: Whisker Biscuit's on High Speed bows
Post by: h2ofowlr on July 22, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
I wouldn't use it.  You may get an unstable arrow or throw it off at further distance.  To much contact as the arrow passes.  Okay for tree stand hunters.  You will see what happens at 40-60 yards.
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