Post by: Head-shot on February 28, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
I will be using it mainly for varmints, so I would like something that can ding fairly consistently out to about 250 300 yds.
I'm pretty familiar with the gun from using it in the military but that was the plain Jane version. I want the "Hot Rod" so to speak.
Post by: actionshooter on February 28, 2008, 09:40:13 PM
Post by: Head-shot on February 28, 2008, 09:54:57 PM
What is the best make in terms of reliability, durability, customer service, availability, then price.
Barrels, you mentioned in another post, who makes the best barrel for the money; with that is it a noticeable difference.
I guess the pros and cons of your experiences. I would rather ask people like yourself who have some experience tinkering with them who are willing to share that, than someone blowing smoke up my ass trying to get me to buy the type of gun they carry.
Does that help?
Post by: whitey on February 29, 2008, 12:02:29 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on February 29, 2008, 12:37:14 PM
Post by: actionshooter on February 29, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
For barrels there are 2 basic kinds, button cut rifiling in which they draw a "button" through the bore and broach cut where the rifling is actually milled, more consistent, more accurate and costs more :). For accuracy broach cut is better. For a standard factory rifle Olympic Arms is the only one doing broach cut to my knowledge. You can buy aftermarket barrels that are broach cut also.
For smooth operation they have neumatic buffers now that are really cool, the old "sshproing" of the buffer spring is gone. They are about $75.
Several brands are really good right now. With AR15s there are a ton of manufacturers = a lot of competition on quality and price.
I'm partial to Olympic Arms b/c they are local and there ultramatch model is really tough to beat in the accuracy dept. Great warranty and service, especially if you show up at the front door. :chuckle:
I like Bushmaster, I used to shoot DCM matches, service rifle, with one and it was a great gun.
Colt is OK but I feel they are over priced and some of thier rifles are not mil-spec, meaning the parts on thier rifles are not all interchangable with other manufacturers.
I have seen SNS around but I don't know anything about them, I pretty sure they buy parts and assemble rifles.
Then you have the match rifles like Les Baer, Wilson, JP (I really like these) that are great rifles but start at $1700 and go way up.
There are also a TON of parts builders right now and its not hard to pick what you want and buy parts and then have someone assemble it for you.
Hope this helps
Post by: Head-shot on February 29, 2008, 05:47:53 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 29, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
Post by: actionshooter on February 29, 2008, 06:56:04 PM
Post by: Head-shot on March 01, 2008, 06:12:27 AM
Post by: Head-shot on March 01, 2008, 07:36:46 AM
Post by: actionshooter on March 01, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
light bullets, slow twist.
I prefer 1-10 with 52-55 grain for shooting chucks and squirrels
Post by: Head-shot on March 01, 2008, 03:34:46 PM
And the lightest is 40?
Post by: Head-shot on March 01, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Does it make that much difference, or is it better to just go with the 5.56 chamber and shoot either/both 5.56 and .223 ammo?
Post by: Head-shot on March 02, 2008, 08:58:56 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2008, 05:01:09 PM
Sorry I couldn't be much help on this one.
In an earlier post washington arms collectors was mentioned and you are on the east side, Spokane has a monthly show also but I have never been there.
Steve
Post by: Head-shot on March 03, 2008, 06:36:24 PM
Thanks for all your help, that goes for everyone else that posted some help on this for me as well.
Eric
Post by: clearviewguy on March 12, 2008, 03:34:49 PM
Post by: thinkingman on March 14, 2008, 09:39:22 AM
If I did build one, I'd spend the $ on a RockRiver 2 stage trigger or White Oak.
I would have a medium contour phosphated barrel with flattop gas block in a 18 or 20 inch length with a 1X8 twist, as I think heavy bullets buck wind better at the 300yd range you mentioned.
The heavier varmint barrels tend to make the thing nose heavy and seems too much for a field gun.
I would not mess around with a collapsible stock or the accessory forearms...just a freefloat tube.
The Wylde chamber does seem to have benefits as you are not limited to one type of ammo.
Personally, I have not seen really tight groups from 5.56 but for those that have to have the hottest......
All in all, I would buy a Rock River Predator Pursuit or Coyote and call it good.
I have a Rock River Varmint in 18" 1X8 and with 77 grain Matchkings, it is boring.
PM me...I need an excuse to come to Eastern WA and shoot.
Post by: madmack76 on April 24, 2009, 02:00:55 AM
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Post by: demontang on April 24, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
I would stay away from the wylde chamber unless you plan on single loading 90+gr bullets.
Post by: NW-GSP on April 24, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
Post by: Coasthunterjay on April 24, 2009, 10:17:37 AM
Post by: thinkingman on April 24, 2009, 02:34:56 PM
For $600 you can be burnin ammo.