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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: h20hunter on July 02, 2010, 10:21:58 AM
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So, I am beginning to document my 2010 outfitted mule deer hunt. Two years ago I decided that my father needs to go hunting. He has provided above and beyond over the years and it is time to pay it back. I did my research, put my money down, and began saving and planning. We will be hunting with an outfitter in the Okanaggen area for four days at the beginning of modern rifle season. I will leave the name of the outfitter out just so I don't step on anybodys toes. I am going along for the ride as a non hunting (deer that is) guest. After we get a mulie we will be hunting for prairie poodles with our remaining time. Our goal is simply to enjoy our hunt and take a good mule deer. We are not trophy seekers and are both fairly new to big game hunting. He is 61 and has humped the hills near Curlew for a couple of years. He has seen plenty of two points, just no shooters. I've got about 5 years hunting big game and have a doe to my credit. My goal for the thread is to post the scouting pics from the outfitter, daily pics from the hunt, one dead mule deer, and some dogs. I'd be glad to answer any questions along the way. Wish us luck.
Here are the first four pics from last week as the outfitter begins scouting and tracking bucks in ernest.
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good luck to you guys, that is a pretty awesome thing to to for your dad, does he know yet?
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I kept it under wraps for about a year and half. Last year my outfitter emailed me pics of deer/couger, and some hero shots. I put it together along with a hat w/logo and in between hands of cribbage while visiting over xmas just handed it to him. Said now that I am a father of two and a bit older I guess he wasn't so full of *censored* all those years. Told him I appreciate it and just wanted to take him hunting. He just sat there, looked at it, and dealt the next hand. Needless to say, he is excited.
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that's cool, i'm sure it will be a great time, looking forward to the results
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Good luck to you. You will not regret it. One of the things I cherish the most in life is hunting every year with my dad. It has gotten more and more difficult over the years as we live 2000 miles apart and he is 78 now, but we make it happen. This year it's a rut hunt in MT for mulies. Have fun.
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Everyone should be blessed with such a son. I hope the outfitter finds one that will be bigger than you even dreamed about. The hunt may be only a few days but the planning and preparing and the dreaming will be forever. He will make you proud.
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Right on! Thats a hell of a thing you did for your Pops!!
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I am hoping for at least a 4x?. I have a buddy that has agreed to cover half the cost of a shoulder mount as a thanks you for some time my father has spent working up a nice 6mm round for him. My father lives in IL these days and we see them once, sometimes twice a year. If he drops a respectable mulie and enjoys himself I'll be content. I think a WA mulie would look great in his loading room.
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H2, great way to pay back your Dad! the preparations together and anticipation is half of the memories. don't forget to take lots of pic's with your dad and you in them to look back on for years. (I only have a handful of pictures with my father actually in the picture, regret it.)
Have a great time and cherish the moments!
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Thats a very cool thing to do for your Dad. Good luck and I can't wait to read th story.
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I want my son to be like you :chuckle: :chuckle: Or I just go ahead and adopt you :chuckle: :chuckle: Nice thing you did for the old man!
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Man, that must make you so proud to be able to do that for your Dad. And, your Dad must be proud as hell to see his Son be so appreciative of him. I can't wait to watch this unfold. Job well done.
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Man that awsome you taking your dad on a guided hunt :tup: Hope he gets a big one.Good luck
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wow your dad is lucky...I think everyone should have two dads..Im available...Thats great I did one for my dad and stepdad yrs back it was a blast..keep us posted
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wow your dad is lucky...I think everyone should have two dads..Im available...Thats great I did one for my dad and stepdad yrs back it was a blast..keep us posted
AWSOME how much did it cost for you to go along as a none hunter?
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I am paying $100 a day as a non hunter. I'll be running the camera, taking tons of pics, and toting my AR just in case we come across any prairie poodles. Once we get our mulie on the ground we'll be hunting the dogs with any remaining time during the four days.
Also, got word from the old man that has some pics of a bigger buck, 4x4, MAYBE 4x5. I'll have to get my hands on the pics and post. We should be seeing more scouting pics as the summer goes along. Last year the outfitter had about shooters with a few real pigs that were being watched. They only kill a handful a year and with the mild winter and plenty of spring rain we should have some healthy bucks with a few extra pounds.
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I will cover 50 a day if I can bring my AR too! :chuckle:
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That's pretty cool of you to do for your dad.
Although my dad would have appreciated the thought when he was alive, he wasn't one to ever spend money on such a guided hunt. His knees wouldn't have handled it anyway. We spent a lot of years on the salt -fishing for what ever was running though.
My youngest boy has asked for a guided Alberta or Saskachewan hunt for his graduation present. I might just have to pony up for that one as he'll most likely graduate with honors. We've always played the 'reward for hard work' game in our family.
Have a safe and bountiful hunt!
-Steve
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Props to you on helping out your dad! :tup:
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That's awesome! Good luck!
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After reading over your post, have to agree that is an awesome thing to be doing. No matter how big of one you get, the true trophy will be the time spent with your dad enjoying each others company.
Good luck to you both out there.
Joe
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I'll chime in and say the same; that's a great thing to do for your pop. I for one, hope he kills a bruiser :tup:
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A bruiser will be nice. I may have mentioned that I am really hoping for what I would call "a good example of a Wa mulie". I would say a deep forked 3x3 is a shooter and a 4x? would also be a shooter. There are of course the jitters of passing a legal buck and then getting shut down by weather or who knows what else. We will have two back up rilfes, a .270 and .308 just in case we have mechanical issues.
What would you all consider a first day morning shooter?
Keep in mind:
Our shooter is 61
Active big game hunter 3 years now
Never shot anything bigger than a groudhog
Dead on shot at any humane distance
4 day fair chase hunt
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18-22" 3 or 4 point is probably what you are looking at, for a opening morning shooter I'd be looking for a 23-24" or better buck.
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Would you say that is a deer in the 4 year range? What do you think about the deer in the beginning of the post. Looks a little small in the body/neck/shoulders to me.
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Is this a private property hunt, or public land?
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All either private and/or privately leased land.
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All either private and/or privately leased land.
Your guide will have a good idea whats in the area since it is private land. Doesnt mean you will run into the deer come season, but with the scouting he is doing im assuming he will have a game plan come opening day.
Id imagine any buck will be a trophy for your dad at 61 with no deer under his belt.
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In that case, as CaseyD said, the guide will be able to advise you what to hold out for. If your guide thinks that you can hold out for a 24" buck, then wait for one. If he advises you to pull the trigger on an 18" buck, then AS LONG AS YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH IT, go ahead.
Don't forget a couple of things:
1. That guide is working for a tip. If your dad doesn't harvest a buck, he knows he won't get much of a tip, so he will want you guys to harvest the first deer you see that meets your criteria.
2. The guide should know exactly what is available on the land you are hunting. If he tells you not to shoot a deer, then DON'T. That means he is confident that he can put you on a bigger one.
3. The guide should ask you what you are looking for. When you tell him, dont' be bashful. If you tell him you will shoot "the first 4x4 you see", then he will take you to an area where you can drill a 16" to 18" buck, so you'll be "happy", and he can save the 24" buck he's been scouting for the guy that demands that.
4. Dont' forget that with muley's, more points doesn't necessarily mean a bigger buck. Width, height and mass mean far more than "points".
So, in short, get an idea of what your dad will be happy harvesting, tell your guide, and have fun. Like I said, I hope you guys tag a bruiser!
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Well put Pathfinder. I should have some fresh scouting pics soon. Signing off.
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I think the buck in the opening picture is what should be expected, might get a chance at a larger one but that buck is probably about average for what most outfitters in this state kill.
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I think the buck in the opening picture is what should be expected, might get a chance at a larger one but that buck is probably about average for what most outfitters in this state kill.
I agree.
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I kind of like the look of that bUck. He's got one ragged ear that is kind of cool.
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I kind of like the look of that back. He's got one ragged ear that is kind of cool.
That ragged ear is what you get when you're a forkhorn and decide it's time to challenge the old man... :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Those were great pointers Pathfinder.
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Well, I got some new scouting pics from my outfitter and there are some nice looking deer. Any shooters in the bunch?
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And a few more......
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that 4x4 would make a nice mount.
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I agree. Looks like good height and good enough width. Also, I figure a 4x4 is a definite shooter.
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One of those 4x4's has a set of eye guards. While his rack will not be as big as the other one this year, he does have some unique/disproportionate tine length. I can't say I'd pass either one of them up.
-Steve
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Steve,
Are you talking about the 4x looking over his shoulder? I wasn't sure if I was seeing the same thing.
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The 1st and the 4th 4x4bucks in this recent set of pics are shooters in my book. The 4th would be on my hit list for sure. Good luck.
Practice alot with your video camera and watch it back before you go so you can see the things you do that you won't like. Like zooming in and out to much. Remember a little wider frame is easier to control and looks less shaky.
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I think the 4th buck is so far the nicest. Thanks for the tip on the camera. I will be shooting some stills as well as video so I can make the old man a compilation vid. If we are in a blind I'll use a tripod and if running and gunning I'll stick to hand held.
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Steve,
Are you talking about the 4x looking over his shoulder? I wasn't sure if I was seeing the same thing.
93.jpg looks like he's got eye guards. Not big ones, but he's got a couple months to grow yet.
If you're runnin and gunnin, then pick up a mono-pod for your camera.
-Steve
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93.jpg looks like he's got eye guards. Not big ones, but he's got a couple months to grow yet.
If you're runnin and gunnin, then pick up a mono-pod for your camera.
-Steve
he's done growing.
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I like those bucks! I know your dad will score :IBCOOL:
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That 4th buck is a dandy. I agree that at this point they are all done growing.
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That's a great thing you're doing for him. My dad started me hunting and was my hunting partner for 20+ years. I wish I could have done something like that for him but he died before I got a chance. Our last hunt together I got a cow and barely legal mulie with my bow in the same day. He must have known he wasn't going to be hunting any more because he paid to have the buck mounted for me as a gift and I display it proudly on the wall always remembering him when I look at it. Not a trophy to a lot of people, but it means the world to me.
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That 4th buck is a dandy. I agree that at this point they are all done growing.
I do lose track of time, don't I. Hell, they'll be rubbin that velvet off in a few weeks! :rolleyes:
-Steve
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8 more days on my calendar till the majority of them start rubbing. Most of them should be clean by 9/10
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Great Post Carnivore!
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Absolutely awesome post, I hunted with my dad for years and then left with the military and didn't hunt with him again. He passed away and I only think of missed opportunities. Now as I start my son into his first years of hunting I can only hope that he and I developed the bond that some of you have mentioned and that you have. Just wanted to say "Good Luck" have fun and cherish the memories.
Only advice I can share came from my experience with a guide a couple years ago in Wyoming.
He will take you to what you want and he will tell you what you want to hear. Make sure he doesn't talk you into what you don't want. Pathfinder101 is dead on with his advice!!!!
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Got a few pics of a nice looking deer this morning. This buck was spotted whle doing a morning scouting run. What do you guys think?
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Couple more of the same deer.
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Nice, it looks like he has a few nice bucks on his leases
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cooll man, i hope you guys tag a giant.
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That's a great thing you're doing for him. My dad started me hunting and was my hunting partner for 20+ years. I wish I could have done something like that for him but he died before I got a chance. Our last hunt together I got a cow and barely legal mulie with my bow in the same day. He must have known he wasn't going to be hunting any more because he paid to have the buck mounted for me as a gift and I display it proudly on the wall always remembering him when I look at it. Not a trophy to a lot of people, but it means the world to me.
Amen to that! it could be doe and mean more that a 180 class with memories like that! nice bag too
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Heck, I wouldn't think twice about shooting any of those bucks.
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That's a great thing you're doing for him. My dad started me hunting and was my hunting partner for 20+ years. I wish I could have done something like that for him but he died before I got a chance. Our last hunt together I got a cow and barely legal mulie with my bow in the same day. He must have known he wasn't going to be hunting any more because he paid to have the buck mounted for me as a gift and I display it proudly on the wall always remembering him when I look at it. Not a trophy to a lot of people, but it means the world to me.
Thats a great story God Bless
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Good looking bucks for sure!
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15 DAYS!
15 days until we hit the road. I spent some time a weekend or two ago with my outfitter. I was able to get to know him, see some land, and spend some time with his family. The experience only gave me more confidence in my choice. We saw at least 4 shooter bucks and only covered about one square mile of his area. I sat above a 4 point for 45 minutes with a archery tag burning a hole in my wallet. I was out with him to take a doe via my bow but it was awesome to see the 4x4 up close. At one point we had three shooter bucks in range at the same time. Talk about tough. After a good weekend of looking around I ended up with a better appreciation for what an outfitter does, a renewed excitement for my fathers upcoming hunt, and my first archery deer. Keep us in mind and keep checking in for updates.
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After a good weekend of looking around I ended up with a better appreciation for what an outfitter does
I've never gone out with a guide/outfitter. Seen them in the woods with clients. Most of them work damn hard for those clients.
-Steve
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Great thread. I wish you both a lot of luck. My dad died 17 years ago, so I miss being outdoors with him. The memories I have as a youngster are still some of my finest. Now I have my 11 yo son to take out and teach like he did for me. Good job and cherish this time. Mark
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2 Days left of work! Got all the little details set. Spa time arranged for mom and wife. Butt pads picked up for sitting while 'yote hunting. Knives sharpened even though they were already sharp. Exta ammo has been loaded and double checked. Wednesday will be a range day to triple check zero and scopes. Big dinner Thursday, hit the road Friday and be ready to go Saturday at o'dark hundred. I'm finally getting a little nervous now that we are getting close. I'll post some pics of the range day and try to do a daily update once we get hunting.
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Good luck h2O :tup:
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Good luck post those pics and be sure to take extra pics of your Dad in the field, you will be thankful you did some day.
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Good luck and can't wait to see the pics!
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Story to follow but here is the buck. Couldn't be more happy.
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Nice Buck! Congrats! Good to see smiles!
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Nice Buck! Congrats! Good to see smiles!
Great job guys.....i think the buck is smiling too. :chuckle: Looks like an awesome time. Nice job.
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gotta love the big smiles!
is that a lightseeker or a S&B I see
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I think I know what outfitter you used. He does a very good business over there in the Okanogan. He has alot of land tied up.
That's really nice you did that for your Dad. I lost mine 6 years ago. I wish I could of done that for my Dad.
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Good buck and good times, good job guys
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Sooooo, here begins the story telling and more pics.
We arrived at the Tanglewood Ranch and met up with Oren Jensen. A few other hunters that were showing up began to arrive. We spent the first evening just getting acquainted with other guides, settling in, having some food, and getting general gear ready. Here are a few pics of the ranch house and us just hanging out.
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My dad and I were guided by this fella. His name is Todd Jensen. Brother of Oren (lead guide and "The Man"). He is a father of one and has one on the way. He is a hell of a guide and person. Since he grew up in the area he knew the hills like the back of his hand. If he said this is where the deer were gonna be, they were. If he said the deer are going to bust out of this draw and go there, they did. Great guy. Also, he had some real words of wisdom. Here are a few exchanges that were common.
While sitting in a blind:
Me: Dad, let me know when you are going to shoot so I can plug my ears.
Todd: Don't worry, it ain't gonna be that loud.
Me: Really?
Todd: Yeah, you ever shoot out of a truck?
Me: No Todd, I have never shot out of truck....
Todd: You know of yotes........well....I was young once.
While hiking:
George: So, where we heading.
Todd: Oh, we'll just park the truck and then it's just a hop 'n a skip
That was followed by at least a hard 1/2 mile uphill.
While gearing up, setting up, cresting a ridge, taking a leak.
Todd: Shake and bake.
Or, before running into town for beer and whatever else.
Me: Todd, you need anything?
Todd: Yeah, mind picking me up some Redman?
Me: Are there different types or what?
Todd: Nope, just don't pick up any of the *censored* in a can, it's for p***ys.
Also, on the topic of chew.
Us: Todd, you know that *censored* will kill you?
Todd: Nope, they just tell you that. Besides, nobody wants to be a quitter.
Todd Jensen, hell of guy, great guide, loves the hills, hikes like a goat, and wears tennis shoes in the field so he can "feel the rocks better".
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We hunted the first day on "The rock" and had some great views. We saw some does, a little spike, and tons of scenery. Many of you know the Omak area but here are a few pics of scenery.
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The evening my dad got his deer we were hunting from a blind. A 4x3 had been taken off the hill and we were looking for this particular 3x3. From the opening pic you can see that we got him. Here are some pics of us in the blind, next will be the kill story.
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Great wright up an dpics to go with. Congrats. Looks like a nice time was had and Nice buck to boot. :chuckle:
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Good dudes... And thank god for it... Awefully damn big to not be on your side!\
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The Kill:
So, we began the evening a drive up the hill. We parked and heard the common expression "Oh, it's just a hop n' skip up a little draw to where the blind is". We hiked up a nice little draw and came out on top where the blind was set. I just happened to have killed my archery doe last month about 150 yards from where we were set up. We were looking for the 3x3 or the 4x4 that were using the hillside as a travel route. We had been set up for about 10 minutes when Todd said the magic word. "Deer". 500 yards away on the treeline was a bedded deer. It only took about 30 seconds of glassing and Todd said "3x3", there he is. Game on.....Shake and Bake! We watched for about an hour and he would get up, nibble, lay down. Get up, look around, nibble, lay down. Soon, the shadows began to creep and the temp began to drop. On command Mr. Deer began our way. Oh baby here we go was all I could think. We watched him walk, nibble, walk nibble for about 10 minutes. I was behind the two, Todd had the binocs, I had the rangefinder. 400, 380, 360, closer and closer he came. I was calling out range and dad was on the rifle. We were waiting for a sub 200 yard broadside shot. Make it count we figured. Like it was planned the deer came in on a string, straight at us and at 200 yards turned perfectly broadside. However, he didn't stop. The whole time Todd is saying, "George, you're gonna kill this deer", "George, this is the deer your gonna kill tonight, right now, on this hill." "George, this is your deer". Like I said, little bugger didn't stop. He slipped into a little draw. Well, now, Dad has to pee so bad I figure he is going to wet his pants. We sneak out he blind, let the old man pee, and figure the deer is just ahead, 200 yards out, in the little draw. Todd leans in close and says you guys are gonna have to be ninjas....ready....okay...shake and bake! Off we go. Todd is in the lead carrying the sticks, dad behind him with his Kimber .270 and his custom loaded Nosler Partition 130 grain loads. I am in back with the binocs and rangefinder. We sneak up and I will admit we are poor ninjas. However, at 35 yards from the deer we are good enough. Problem is, dad can't see the deer in the scope, he is to low and we are not high enough. We take a few steps to the side and the deer spooks. He trots about 20 yards and jumps a fence and begins trotting away from us back up the hill at about a 45 degree angle. Now I am saying to myself and the karma gods "please stop, please stop, please stop". At about 100 yards he does the classic stop, quarter, look back move. As soon as his feet stop I am whispering "shoot shoot shoot". Don't know why since the gun goes pop and Mr. Deer seems to be struck by the hand of God himself. Instantly the deer slams to the ground chest first, bounces up, take about 15 steps into a draw and nose dives into the sage. We can't see him and Todd says load another. The bolt cycles and dad is looking for the deer. No deer. I am thinking oh hell where did he go. I should have known when Todd simply smiles, stands upright and says nice shot in a normal non sneaking through the brush playing deer ninja sorta way. I'm a bit jacked up and not really thinking to clearly. By now, Oren (The Man) is walking over from a little knob with a big ol grin. I am now realizing that they know the deer is down for good. We walk up a bit and dad is the first to reach his deer. The shot turned out to be about 100 yards from a standing position with sticks. The deer was quartering away hard. The bullet went in just between the last two ribs, blew away 1/4 of the liver, just about severed the lower 1/3 of the heart, and exited towards the front of the shoulder. Dead Right Now. I figure the deer lasted about 2 seconds from time of shot to crash and traveled about 15 steps. He was dead before he hit the ground. Todd did an awesome job on the stalk. He was like a deer himself. Here is some more hero shots of the deer.
Stay turned for a pretty good side story.
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Dad and I.
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dad and i
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Remember the heart I mentioned. Here is the damage done by the bullet.
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Now, a side story about said heart. So, Todd is doing the knife work and is checking out the damage done by the bullet. We all agree, major damage. Then, Todd looks over at my dad, then at me, and takes a bite out of the damn thing like an apple. I'm thinking, yep, he just took a bite out of the heart. He offers it to my dad and says you gotta, first deer so you gotta. Dad says no way man. Todd looks at me and says "well, then you gotta do it. Oh *censored* I'm thinking. Well, at this point I'm pretty much obligated. I say okay, give it here. I take my bite. It is still steaming and really not that bad. A little bloody, a lot warm, and a bit chewy. So, I'm chewing this hunk of heart up on the hill and thinking that if I swallow this I'm gonna barf. I figure that I've already taken the bite, chewed, and hung in there. Thinking I'll get ribbed worse if if barf then if I spit I choose to spit. Here is the sequence.
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my turn
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Okay, time for dinner. I'll type up some more and post some more pics in a bit. Also, yes, his scope is a lightseeker.
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Deer hanging.
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Before I forget here is some info on the outfitter and contact info. Oren Jensen and basically the whole Jensen clan pitch in to give hunters a great outfitter experience. I say experience because if you ask Oren he will tell you that he can't and won't sell you a deer. He will provide an experience. The deer is a bonus. His guides are all great guys, excellent woodsman, and will put you on deer. This is all fair chase so no sure thing but the odds are damn good. Tim and Rita run the ranch house, cook meals, and basically take care of any needs you may have. The most I can say about Tim and Rita Jensen are that these are good people. They are hard working, honest, good people. What more can you want from your hosts. The stories they can tell will keep you up long into the night if you let them. Oren as an outfitter, lead guide, and overall woodsman is top notch. I would recommend Tanglewood Guides to anyone young and old. If you want to hunt with great people, have access to great ground, and as a bonus increase your odds of success you should contact them. By the way, Tim and Rita can also set you up for a little upland bird action on the side. Here is the link.
http://www.twguides.com/ (http://www.twguides.com/)
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sounds like an awesome time, hope my kids treat me so well when im older ;)
--bh2bt
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Congrats on a great deer and some unforgettable memories! Way to go!
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Looks and sounds like it was a great hunt, Congrats to your dad :tup:
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Great story and pics. Sounds like you got your money's worth. Congrats to your Dad!
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Hey, Just lost my dad to cancer and that story is way to cool. Just remember those days and have fun doin them. you just made my day that much better for sharing your stoy. thanx for being a cool person and may your year be full of fun. peace out
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Put up a little slide show on YouTube for people to enjoy. Turn on you speakers for a little Chris Ledoux and some extended deer porn.
2010 Mule Deer Hunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x5lzCrIbu4#)
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So, we are almost done with this story. The taxi just sent me a quick cell phone pic of the mount. I asked for a slightly left facing mount for placement purposes. The pic is a bit poor and I'll get some better ones up when I pick it up. Looks like it turned out well. I'll get it picked up, shipped, and a final pic/post of it mounted at its place of honor on my dads wall.
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Looking Good :tup:
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why is the slide show blocked in my country :dunno: thought this was the good ole USA
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Very nice thread!!!! Again, CONGRATS to your father!
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not sure why the slide show is blocked, you can always go straight to YouTube. My playlist is under dbschildt.
cheers.
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Just came across this lastnight.
http://yakima.craigslist.org/spo/2528955227.html (http://yakima.craigslist.org/spo/2528955227.html)
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Yep, they use various pics (with permission) for online advertising.
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Here is a better picture of the mount, now, just have to ship it and get it on his wall. Then it will be done.
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:tup:
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If anyone cares to see the slide show it should be visible to everyone. I had to change the music due to copywright laws. So, no more Chris Ledeax (sp?), now we have "A Midsummers Night Dream."
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I am 48 hours from the final post. The mount has been shipped and arrived at my dads place in Illinois about 10 minutes ago. I built the crate for about $100 and shipped FedEx. The crate left Monday and was delivered safe and sound this morning. Here is a pic or two of the mount crated. It is shown without the face and top. Next is a pic of the mount on the wall. Once the mount is hung it will be almost three years to the day since I made the decision to book the hunt, complete the hunt, get the mount done, shipped, and on the wall.
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Devin,
I just watched the slide show, and wanted to say "Thank You". It was awesome, and I got excited for my trip in a few weeks. How great it was for you to share that with your dad...
Dave