Post by: Sorefeet on July 08, 2010, 02:26:09 PM
Does anyone have a problem with the "Governor's Tag" being auctioned off by the RMEF? I know that the money probably goes to elk habitat but could they not offer the same deal in a raffle in the state and collect as much money?
The poor working class of the state have to spend money and years hoping to get drawn for a tag of any kind. Some dude from out of state with deep pockets can come out of state and just buy THE DELUXE TAG. Not meaning to sound bitter as I did get drawn for a bull tag this year but dislike the idea of rich guys buying tags that we should all have a chance at!!!!!!!
Post by: GoldTip on July 08, 2010, 02:29:13 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on July 08, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 08, 2010, 02:32:16 PM
I'm gonna venture this will be a 10 page thread soon.
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on July 08, 2010, 02:33:59 PM
i would say that i dont think the same guy should be able to buy it twice, i have been told that 'ol Agnew bought it again this year
Too bad they are in it for the money, and not the common hunter.
Post by: jackelope on July 08, 2010, 02:37:50 PM
i would say that i dont think the same guy should be able to buy it twice, i have been told that 'ol Agnew bought it again this year
Too bad they are in it for the money, and not the common hunter.
Where does the money come from if not from these tags? If the money came from them raising our license fees again, then everyone would be bitching twice as much as they do about auction tags.
If someone would come up with a logical response to this question, I'd love to hear it.
Post by: Houndhunter on July 08, 2010, 02:37:54 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 08, 2010, 02:51:03 PM
i would say that i dont think the same guy should be able to buy it twice, i have been told that 'ol Agnew bought it again this year
Too bad they are in it for the money, and not the common hunter.
Where does the money come from if not from these tags? If the money came from them raising our license fees again, then everyone would be bitching twice as much as they do about auction tags.
If someone would come up with a logical response to this question, I'd love to hear it.
Gotta agree with Jackalope on this one. It's ONE elk tag, it raises a ton of money, and there are other chances for the rest of us to basically hunt the same tag. There is already a raffle tag out there that is more or less the same as the auction tag, and if we just threw another one of those into the raffle, it wouldn't raise any more money than the auction already does.
I don't really think that you should be able to buy it twice, but I don't have a problem with the auction itself. As long as the $$ goes to elk habitat, I am OK with it. Who knows, maybe I'll be a "rich guy" one day... :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on July 08, 2010, 03:09:35 PM
Post by: julzzz on July 08, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 08, 2010, 03:20:24 PM
Post by: gasman on July 08, 2010, 03:26:11 PM
And who cares if the same guy buys it year after year, I'll take his money/ Let teh rich battle it out and raise the cost of teh Gov tag up so we can get as much money from them as possible.
Maybe one day i wil have the money to bid on the tag :dunno: NOT..................
:twocents:
Post by: norsepeak on July 08, 2010, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: Caseyd on July 08, 2010, 03:51:22 PM
There must be a big bull running around somewhere down there.
Dont where :rolleyes:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 08, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: Sorefeet on July 08, 2010, 04:12:35 PM
Does anyone know the conditions of the Governor's tag? I have heard it is quite liberal on the hunting conditions but I admit to not knowing the details.
I saw in this thread that the same guy bought it for $42,000. We pay 6.50 for a permit now and with thousands of applicants for the most popular gmu the money might be there from the average joe hunter. The peaches ridge tag brought in over 20,000 dollars last year. I know that this is for a lot more tags but I would pay more for a raffle chance at and elk hunt like this.
I do not have the answers to all this is raising but it just irks me that rich guys can come in and buy tags like this that most washington hunters could never afford. Charge every hunter a buck extra on all the tags in the state and leave them to raffles and fair play
Thanks
Sorefeet
Post by: DaveBTS on July 08, 2010, 04:17:15 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 08, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
If the RMEF is a 501.C corp. then anyone paying for that tag would be able to write it off their taxes or a portion of it.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 08, 2010, 04:26:49 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 08, 2010, 04:54:39 PM
Basically, The way I understand, it is an any weapon tag, to hunt any open unit in the state, from the day the first elk season opens in September until 31 Dec. Same as the raffle tag. If I am wrong here, anyone who knows can feel free to chime in and correct me.
In the case of elk, that generally means that you can hunt the rut, with a rifle, in the unit with the best genetics. If it makes you feel any better, lets just pretend that Agnew paid for 6,462 raffle tickets, and he got drawn.... :dunno:
Post by: B.G.hunter on July 08, 2010, 05:07:46 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 08, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
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First I would like to reply to Jackelope. Yes I do have a problem with all the auctions. I think that these tags should all be raffled so everyone has a fair shot and not some guy with deep pockets.
They do raffles for us regular guys too...they carry the same liberal rules and the auction tags.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 08, 2010, 05:17:28 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 08, 2010, 06:04:20 PM
I will say this, it does gall me a little that basically this oppurtunity can go to the highest bidder, you could get that tag every year if you wanted to i.e. Dan Agnew. however as i sit and ponder it a bit, i think it is mostly jealousy because he has the wallet for it and i dont, because if i did , i would stand right next to him bidding away
Yeah, that's the way I see it. I mean, this isn't England in the 1700s. You don't have to be born a Noble, we all have the same opportunity to strike it rich. If he wants to use his money that way, that's cool. As long as it doesnt' go into the "General Fund"... >:(
Post by: Sorefeet on July 08, 2010, 06:08:43 PM
I also see that some of the money has improved hunting areas as noted by BG hunter.
I have more to learn on the subject I admit but I still feel strongly that we are the backbone of the WDFW with our funding and that these tags should be open to all at a reasonable price
Post by: coachcw on July 09, 2010, 06:52:49 AM
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Post by: hunterheinz on July 10, 2010, 08:41:55 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 10, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
i would say that i dont think the same guy should be able to buy it twice, i have been told that 'ol Agnew bought it again this year
Too bad they are in it for the money, and not the common hunter.
Where does the money come from if not from these tags? If the money came from them raising our license fees again, then everyone would be bitching twice as much as they do about auction tags.
If someone would come up with a logical response to this question, I'd love to hear it.
If you want rich folks to subsidize the cost of your tags, it's ok. Personally, I prefer the increase in tag costs, and everyone with an equal chance at everything. That's tough on the poor, and I think everyone should be able to hunt.
No complex problem has good easy solutions.
Post by: Elkpiss on July 11, 2010, 07:15:12 PM
People who have enough Indian heritage get to hunt Elk and deer in December too that I don't. That shouldn't upset you either, Elkpiss, I'm sure if you had enough Indian ancestry, you would do that too.well the governor tag is 1 elk with the money going to help elk conservation indian elk hunting, well that's another topic I don't even want to mess with.. you no what I mean man? :P :P
Post by: bucklucky on July 11, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
Post by: wa.hunter on July 26, 2010, 07:56:23 AM
Post by: predatorpro on July 26, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
Post by: haus on July 26, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
It's just one tag! :hello: