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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: turkey buster on July 13, 2010, 07:21:30 PM

Title: Encore Barrel
Post by: turkey buster on July 13, 2010, 07:21:30 PM: I am thinking about buying a new 22-250 barell for my encore, I am torn between the 26" heavy barell and the new 28" fluted heavy barell, cant help but wonder if the 28" will be more accurate what are your thought's,experiences, 26" or 28" :dunno:
chuck
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 13, 2010, 07:46:35 PM: i will always buy the longer barrel on the guns i buy, i have always seen better results with longer berrels myself. i would buy the 28" if it was me
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: Elk-aholic on July 13, 2010, 10:09:46 PM: I own a Encore in 22-250 with the Stainless 26" heavy barrel it's a tack driver to say the least. I got a ProHuter in 300 Win Mag with the 28" Fluted barrel its just as accurate if not more than any of my varmint rifles. I would choose the 28" barrel if it was me,the ballistics will be better with the longer barrel and the fluting will aid in weight reduction and heat distribution.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: S.O.B on July 14, 2010, 04:37:04 PM: turkey buster IMO you should not need a long barrel for accuracy or velocity.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2010, 04:42:43 PM: How much difference could 2" of barrel possibly make with a 22-250 when you're talking about 26" or 28".
I'm not a gun guru so I really am just asking.

I have the 26" heavy stainless barrel on my Encore rifle and it drives tacks.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: S.O.B on July 14, 2010, 04:51:38 PM: in velocity the difference between a 28 inch barrel and a 22 inch barrel might end up being as little as 50 fps.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: jackelope on July 14, 2010, 05:47:46 PM: Quote from: S.O.B on July 14, 2010, 04:51:38 PM
in velocity the difference between a 28 inch barrel and a 22 inch barrel might end up being as little as 50 fps.

OK but the 2 Encore barrel choices are 26" or 28"....
I'm gonna assume that you'll spend a fair amount more money for the Pro-Hunter fluted 28" barrel for pennies worth of difference between it and the 26" heavy barrel.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 14, 2010, 06:02:00 PM: All of my Enocore barrels are the 28" stainless fluted. TC makes great barrels, they are ALL tack drivers!! I'd ask what your looking to do the your .22-250? If your going to be hunting with it, the 28" fluted is actually lighter than the 26" heavy barrels I've seen. Admittingly I've weighted them, and the difference is between about 1/4 to 1/2 lbs lighter depending on the caliber. Its a personal choice you would need to make. I really don't think you'll have much difference in accuracy, and both barrels will completely burn the 25 grains or so of powder.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: G.R.K on July 14, 2010, 09:00:10 PM: Go with the 26" barrel and cut a couple more inches off for the best accuracy,Here's some info

http://bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=580 (http://bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=580)
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: haugenna on July 14, 2010, 10:14:33 PM: Once your powder is completely burned I think the excess barrel is useless. I could be wrong though. I would put a 24" fluted barrel on it. Bigger calibers with more case capacity will benefit from the longer barrels.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 14, 2010, 10:24:51 PM: Quote from: haugenna on July 14, 2010, 10:14:33 PM
Once your powder is completely burned I think the excess barrel is useless. I could be wrong though. I would put a 24" fluted barrel on it. Bigger calibers with more case capacity will benefit from the longer barrels.

When all the powder is burned, the bullet is just dragging against the rifling, and creating friction which isn't helping velocity. But that just give an excuse to load hotter rounds with a long barrel ;), just don't depend on a long barrel life. I do personally like the looks of the 28" stainless fluted. But i'm sure your not shooting for looks. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: turkey buster on July 14, 2010, 10:34:27 PM: thanks guy's this is all great info, I will be using it to hunt with, the prices I am looking at are 24" sporter W/ iron sights $249 + shipping,26" heavy barrel drilled and tapped for scope mounts $249 + shipping, 28" fluted drilled and tapped for scope mount $269 + shipping, so we are talking about $20.00 difference between the 26" and the 28", I am having a hard time believing that the longer barrel wont be more accurate, I understand about the burn time but not to be anymore accurate, just dont make sense, oh well that is the reason I am asking to learn what I dont know
thanks again for the info guy's
chuck
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: Elk-aholic on July 15, 2010, 07:53:10 AM: Quote from: S.O.B on July 14, 2010, 04:51:38 PM
in velocity the difference between a 28 inch barrel and a 22 inch barrel might end up being as little as 50 fps.

I find that hard to believe... Ive been shooting prairie dogs in WY for years now and we all use 26"-28" barrels on our 22-250 varmint rifles. 22" varmint rifle in a 22-250 seems a little too short for my taste. Most serious varmint rifles in 22-250 are 26" for good reason, I don't think a 28" barrel will hurt anything in fact I think you will see a slight increase in muzzle velocity. Every little bit helps! :twocents:
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2010, 08:49:14 AM: simple straight forward question, and I would love to see a simple straight forward answer.

How much difference in accuracy could there possibly be with a 22-250 between barrel lengths of 26" and 28"??
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: Elk-aholic on July 15, 2010, 03:16:32 PM: Jackelope, I don't think any noticeable accuracy difference could be determined between a 26" or 28" barrel. You usually don't loose accuracy with a shorter barrel (I'm talking about rifles) just some velocity. For example, a couple years ago my dad and his brothers all jumped on the DPMS bandwagon and ordered some rifles from the factory, my dads rifle has a 16" bull barrel and my uncles is a 20" bull barrel. They both shoot about the same as accuracy goes but the 20" barrel gives more velocity on the chronograph.
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: G.R.K on July 17, 2010, 12:05:16 AM: Quote from: jackelope on July 15, 2010, 08:49:14 AM
simple straight forward question, and I would love to see a simple straight forward answer.

How much difference in accuracy could there possibly be with a 22-250 between barrel lengths of 26" and 28"??

2" :chuckle:
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 17, 2010, 12:38:27 AM: Zero difference!!!
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: yorketransport on July 17, 2010, 06:08:43 AM: Barrel length has very little to do with accuracy. There are an awful lot of short barreled benchrest guns out there that will out shoot anything that I own. Besides, 21 3/4" is the most accurate barrel length ;). If you don't believe me, ready this.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/max357/houston.html (http://www.angelfire.com/ma3/max357/houston.html)

Andrew
Title: Re: Encore Barrel
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2010, 11:36:37 AM: I can't really see there being any difference in accuracy or even velocity with a .22-250 rifle with that long a barrel. I could see maybe a little difference with some load holding 70-90 grains of powder like a big mag or ultra-mag, but a little guy like a 22-250...no way IMO. That 26" tube has plenty of length to burn that powder up.