Post by: wapiti hunter2 on July 19, 2010, 07:59:19 PM
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on July 19, 2010, 08:05:22 PM
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Post by: Lowedog on July 19, 2010, 08:10:09 PM
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 19, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 20, 2010, 12:59:01 AM
yote yes big game no:yeah: I use self clinging camo form tape
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 20, 2010, 05:40:33 AM
Post by: Whitelightning on July 20, 2010, 07:10:49 AM
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on July 20, 2010, 08:27:18 AM
Post by: Lowedog on July 20, 2010, 08:37:24 AM
Make sure you don't comprimise the free floating of the barrel
No worries with the Bighorn.
Interesting. So, when it comes to coyotes you camo-up. But when it comes to big game and spending potentially a thousand dollars or more for an in-state elk or deer hunt you don't. You spend hundreds on camo clothing, face paint etc then leave your gun silver? I ask because I have spotted hunters stainless rifles in the woods before seeing them on several occassions and I know mine sticks out like a Star Wars light saber. How can you say you have never had a problem? If the deer or elk sees you first it's gone. You'll never know. I am going to camo-up I just don't know if I am going to paint or tape.
I decided to paint my rifles several years ago after I was sneaking through the trees in a high country basin and afterward my buddy who was across the basin told me how he could see the light reflecting off my rifle.
Post by: MikeWalking on July 20, 2010, 08:38:51 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 20, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
Interesting. So, when it comes to coyotes you camo-up. But when it comes to big game and spending potentially a thousand dollars or more for an in-state elk or deer hunt you don't. You spend hundreds on camo clothing, face paint etc then leave your gun silver? I ask because I have spotted hunters stainless rifles in the woods before seeing them on several occassions and I know mine sticks out like a Star Wars light saber. How can you say you have never had a problem? If the deer or elk sees you first it's gone. You'll never know. I am going to camo-up I just don't know if I am going to paint or tape.
Not sure what the point of camo painting or dipping a big game modern rifle when you're walking around with a glowing orange vest on.
I won't put tape on another gun. I taped a shotgun once and when I took the tape off it was all rusted. Never again.
Post by: jackelope on July 20, 2010, 11:40:18 AM
Post by: Caseyd on July 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
Interesting. So, when it comes to coyotes you camo-up. But when it comes to big game and spending potentially a thousand dollars or more for an in-state elk or deer hunt you don't. You spend hundreds on camo clothing, face paint etc then leave your gun silver? I ask because I have spotted hunters stainless rifles in the woods before seeing them on several occassions and I know mine sticks out like a Star Wars light saber. How can you say you have never had a problem? If the deer or elk sees you first it's gone. You'll never know. I am going to camo-up I just don't know if I am going to paint or tape.
Not sure what the point of camo painting or dipping a big game modern rifle when you're walking around with a glowing orange vest on.
I won't put tape on another gun. I taped a shotgun once and when I took the tape off it was all rusted. Never again.
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Post by: MikeWalking on July 20, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
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Not sure what the point of camo painting or dipping a big game modern rifle when you're walking around with a glowing orange vest on.
I won't put tape on another gun. I taped a shotgun once and when I took the tape off it was all rusted. Never again.
Good point since deer and elk are color blind but see light reflected off materials in ways we can't. They can't tell Orange from Black. But taking the shine of stainless steel can't hurt and ought to help. They can see the Infrared and UV light reflected off plants and man made material. Clothes, metal reflect more than plants and look shiny and unnatural compared to the dull flat reflection off plants to a deers eyes. As long as it's a dull finish how's a deer or elk gonna know it from a branch?
"Fool, Elk don't know how many legs a horse has"
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on July 20, 2010, 01:26:19 PM
Post by: Whitelightning on July 20, 2010, 10:07:54 PM
Interesting. So, when it comes to coyotes you camo-up. But when it comes to big game and spending potentially a thousand dollars or more for an in-state elk or deer hunt you don't. You spend hundreds on camo clothing, face paint etc then leave your gun silver? I ask because I have spotted hunters stainless rifles in the woods before seeing them on several occassions and I know mine sticks out like a Star Wars light saber. How can you say you have never had a problem? If the deer or elk sees you first it's gone. You'll never know. I am going to camo-up I just don't know if I am going to paint or tape.
As I said mine are not polished, they are satin, Blued rifles will reflect more light than my stainless will. Camo on a rifle barrel is not necessary IMO. I don't polish my blued rifles either I like satin finish. As said critters dont see color, if it dont shine!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 22, 2010, 01:22:08 AM
We are talking muzzleloaders here. Full camo dress, rutting elk, one hopes and NO orange vest.
Yup...talking muzzle loader. In unit 666 or if your hunting ANY piece of Federally owned property, you MUST wear orange. I don't hunt these area often for its hard to get access too (ft. Lewis never available open areas for muzzy) but even when I'm just out hunting...anywhere, the only time I'm actually in camo is when its raining out, for my rain gear happens to be camo. I've taken both elk and deer not wearing camo, took an elk with out even having a shirt on and with my white belly I'm sure I was reflecting light all over the place.
If your barrel has a satin finish and is not glaring...no need for camo. My rifle is just black stock and matte blue finish...no glare...no issues getting close to game. IMO camo is highly over rated.
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 22, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
yeah as long as there is no flashing going on it can be any color, i just use camo gillie cut and rolled around the barrel it works but not perfect i could never bring myself to painting a barrel :yike: :chuckle:
Agreed...a painted barrel looks gaudy, and although it may not matter much on a muzzleloader, paint will just destroy the value of your firearms!! Sorry, I spend 8 hours a day evaluating firearms, many times under the paint one can find rust, the paint does not allow the metal to breath and that's not good for the longevity of the firearms life. Muzzle loaders will rust anyways, why speed up the process with paint?
Post by: Lowedog on July 22, 2010, 06:31:11 AM
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Post by: Whitelightning on July 27, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
Paint does not seal out moisture. The film still breathes and will allow moisture to penetrate to the metal. Stainless (Top Quality) must have an Acid etch applied to it prior to an intermediate coat followed by the color film. With out the etch the color film will not adhere. I have never seen stainless of that quality on a rifle or pistol barrel.
Impurities will rust for sure but those typically are from the bead blasting process to satin the finish. Stainless in a rifle can be affected by weather and acids in the powder. Take care of your stainless.
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on July 28, 2010, 05:12:05 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53672.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53672.0.html)
Post by: Whitelightning on July 28, 2010, 08:51:53 PM
Whitelightning. Deer don't see in shades of gray contrary to all of the old opinions. Actual recent scientific studies indicate they see in blues, yellow and greens. Check out the articles in this tread.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53672.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,53672.0.html)
Wapiti hunter2,
Thanks that is a good read. I am alway's happy to learn something new!
Post by: BoomWhop on July 30, 2010, 02:37:37 PM