Post by: DoubleJ on July 21, 2010, 10:15:51 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 10:18:31 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on July 21, 2010, 10:22:15 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 10:26:07 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on July 21, 2010, 10:26:30 AM
legal as can be just don't be pointing your rifle at the deer or shooting it and you will be o.k. we have had cops and wardens follow us before wtchin us shine all the deer and what not then they got tired of following us and either just pull us over or kick on there lights and leave there is nothing not legal about shining a light on a deer but intent to shoot like scopeing the deer might get you in the hot seat but just because you have a rifle with you does not mean you r a poacher.
No Carpsniper that was me following you making sure you were being a gentleman with my daughter Amy!! Lol!!
Post by: 400out on July 21, 2010, 11:03:39 AM
:spank_butt: :lol4:legal as can be just don't be pointing your rifle at the deer or shooting it and you will be o.k. we have had cops and wardens follow us before wtchin us shine all the deer and what not then they got tired of following us and either just pull us over or kick on there lights and leave there is nothing not legal about shining a light on a deer but intent to shoot like scopeing the deer might get you in the hot seat but just because you have a rifle with you does not mean you r a poacher.
No Carpsniper that was me following you making sure you were being a gentleman with my daughter Amy!! Lol!!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 11:05:04 AM
I LOVE IT!!!!
but you are a cop but a cop and a dad is even more scary :yike: :chuckle:
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 11:38:14 AM
Say I'm camping in the woods. It's late at night and I'm sitting in the bed of my truck . I hear a noise. I shine my spotlight on the noise. It's a deer. I have my rifle next to me for protection. I have no intent on shooting the deer since it's July. If a game warden pops out from behind a tree, am I in trouble or would I have had to actually shoot the deer first?If the rifle is loaded, yes you WILL be cited, for having a loaded weapon in your vehicle.
If he is responding to a complaint about illegal activity, you will have some 'splainin' to do....
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 21, 2010, 11:42:30 AM
That is the correct answer, and it has nothing to do with the light except for creating the initial contact. If you are legally night hunting, you must still exit the vehicle and load the gun before shooting.Say I'm camping in the woods. It's late at night and I'm sitting in the bed of my truck . I hear a noise. I shine my spotlight on the noise. It's a deer. I have my rifle next to me for protection. I have no intent on shooting the deer since it's July. If a game warden pops out from behind a tree, am I in trouble or would I have had to actually shoot the deer first?
If the rifle is loaded, yes you WILL be cited, for having a loaded weapon in your vehicle.
If he is responding to a complaint about illegal activity, you will have some 'splainin' to do....
Post by: BIGINNER on July 21, 2010, 11:42:34 AM
Say I'm camping in the woods. It's late at night and I'm sitting in the bed of my truck . I hear a noise. I shine my spotlight on the noise. It's a deer. I have my rifle next to me for protection. I have no intent on shooting the deer since it's July. If a game warden pops out from behind a tree, am I in trouble or would I have had to actually shoot the deer first?If the rifle is loaded, yes you WILL be cited, for having a loaded weapon in your vehicle.
If he is responding to a complaint about illegal activity, you will have some 'splainin' to do....
I AGREE, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT AT FIRST, NICE CATCH SSB :) ARE YOU A COP BY ANY CHANCE? LOL :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 11:44:36 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on July 21, 2010, 11:45:22 AM
Say I'm camping in the woods. It's late at night and I'm sitting in the bed of my truck . I hear a noise. I shine my spotlight on the noise. It's a deer. I have my rifle next to me for protection. I have no intent on shooting the deer since it's July. If a game warden pops out from behind a tree, am I in trouble or would I have had to actually shoot the deer first?If the rifle is loaded, yes you WILL be cited, for having a loaded weapon in your vehicle.
If he is responding to a complaint about illegal activity, you will have some 'splainin' to do....
Be careful with the loaded gun in the bed of the truck. Stupid as it sounds they will cite you for that one. As for spotlighting....they can get you for harassing wilidlife if they want to for spotlghting deer. Yes you can spotlight and shoot coyotes if you are by the book.
Post by: DoubleJ on July 21, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
Post by: Deer slayer on July 21, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 11:52:48 AM
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I AGREE, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT AT FIRST, NICE CATCH SSB ARE YOU A COP BY ANY CHANCE? LOLNo, but my father was !
:chuckle:
I learned about the "little" things that can bite you in the a$$
I know a guy that stopped while driving down a logging road by a gamy during archery season and was asked if he was hunting, he responded "yes" and was written a ticket for hunting from a vehicle.
you gotta pay attention to the details.
Post by: wastickslinger on July 21, 2010, 11:56:44 AM
QuoteI AGREE, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT AT FIRST, NICE CATCH SSB ARE YOU A COP BY ANY CHANCE? LOLNo, but my father was !
:chuckle:
I learned about the "little" things that can bite you in the a$$
I know a guy that stopped while driving down a logging road by a gamy during archery season and was asked if he was hunting, he responded "yes" and was written a ticket for hunting from a vehicle.
you gotta pay attention to the details.
your kidding right?
Post by: grundy53 on July 21, 2010, 11:57:22 AM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 12:11:47 PM
Not unless the guy who told me was kidding me, and everyone else he tells the story to. (says it happened to him)QuoteI AGREE, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT AT FIRST, NICE CATCH SSB ARE YOU A COP BY ANY CHANCE? LOLNo, but my father was !
:chuckle:
I learned about the "little" things that can bite you in the a$$
I know a guy that stopped while driving down a logging road by a gamy during archery season and was asked if he was hunting, he responded "yes" and was written a ticket for hunting from a vehicle.
you gotta pay attention to the details.
your kidding right?
also says the case was dismissed, but he had to drive back to NE Washington to fight it...
Post by: Deer slayer on July 21, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on July 21, 2010, 12:47:41 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 21, 2010, 12:56:23 PM
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 01:10:47 PM
Or skip the permit and get a handgun and keep it on you and loaded. You'll then be legal to have a loaded firearm.unless you are in or on a vehicle.....
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2010, 01:14:25 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 01:17:26 PM
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RCW 77.15.460
Loaded firearm in vehicle — Unlawful use or possession — Penalty.
(1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle if:
(a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls a rifle or shotgun in or on a motor vehicle; and
(b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and capped or primed.
(2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if the person negligently shoots a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway.
(3) Unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle or unlawful use of a loaded firearm is a misdemeanor.
(4) This section does not apply if the person:
(a) Is a law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a firearm and is on duty within the officer's respective jurisdiction;
(b) Possesses a disabled hunter's permit as provided by RCW 77.32.237 and complies with all rules of the department concerning hunting by persons with disabilities.
(5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.
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A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless he has a license to carry a concealed weapon and the pistol is on his person, or the person with the concealed carrying license is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or the person with the concealed carrying license is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 21, 2010, 01:18:43 PM
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2010, 01:22:40 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Washington
Washington State law also carves exemptions into state law regarding Concealed Pistol Licenses. Perhaps the most interesting is RCW 9.41.060, section 8: "Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;"[312]. This little known law essentially allows vehicle and concealed carry WITHOUT a CPL as normally required in 9.41.050 as long as you meet the provisions of that section.
Post by: bobcat on July 21, 2010, 01:35:01 PM
Post by: br8kitoff on July 21, 2010, 11:38:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 12:30:22 AM
Post by: rasbo on July 22, 2010, 12:46:22 AM
I'm not paying $60 a year to exercise my right to bear arms.for cwp????5 yrs every 5 yrs renew
Post by: grundy53 on July 22, 2010, 12:51:02 AM
Post by: ML_Hunter on July 22, 2010, 01:07:04 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 06:54:14 AM
Ya its not $60 dollars a year its every 5 years
Oh well, whatever it is, I'm not paying it.
Post by: Bob33 on July 22, 2010, 08:00:29 AM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on July 22, 2010, 09:48:10 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 10:13:43 AM
You must step out of vehicle and shine
I'd sure like to see where that is written into the law. Shooting from a vehicle is one thing, shining a light from a vehicle altogether different. I doubt if it's against the law, but if you have a reference to it, I'd love to see it.
Post by: grundy53 on July 22, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
:yeah:You must step out of vehicle and shine
I'd sure like to see where that is written into the law. Shooting from a vehicle is one thing, shining a light from a vehicle altogether different. I doubt if it's against the law, but if you have a reference to it, I'd love to see it.
Post by: wastickslinger on July 22, 2010, 01:21:53 PM
:yeah:You must step out of vehicle and shine
I'd sure like to see where that is written into the law. Shooting from a vehicle is one thing, shining a light from a vehicle altogether different. I doubt if it's against the law, but if you have a reference to it, I'd love to see it.
You can spotlight from a moving vehicle you just have to get out to shoot obviously.
Post by: runamuk on July 22, 2010, 01:32:29 PM
I'm not paying $60 a year to exercise my right to bear arms.for cwp????5 yrs every 5 yrs renew
well my county charges 50 every 5 yrs and its worth it to know for sure I am okey dokey with my loaded pistol on me in my rig.....the rules are screwy enough I dont want to risk it all on some stupid technicality I didn't think of.....lawyers get paid to find technicalities I dont ;)
Post by: bobcat on July 22, 2010, 01:46:21 PM
I'm not paying $60 a year to exercise my right to bear arms.for cwp????5 yrs every 5 yrs renew
well my county charges 50 every 5 yrs and its worth it to know for sure I am okey dokey with my loaded pistol on me in my rig.....the rules are screwy enough I dont want to risk it all on some stupid technicality I didn't think of.....lawyers get paid to find technicalities I dont ;)
I don't feel a need to carry a loaded handgun with me all the time so that's why I say it's not worth it for me. I only want to have a handgun on me when I'm in the woods, so I'm ok without having the permit. Any other time I'll just keep it unloaded.
Post by: Kent Hunter on July 22, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 22, 2010, 10:16:03 PM
Post by: letmhunt on July 22, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on July 22, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
why would u be sitting in the back of your truck in the middle of the night in the dark?
Sleeping in the bed of the truck
Post by: letmhunt on July 22, 2010, 10:47:17 PM
why would u be sitting in the back of your truck in the middle of the night in the dark?
Sleeping in the bed of the truck
The start of your thead is that u are sitting in the back of the truck.
Post by: strutnrut1984 on July 23, 2010, 11:46:42 AM
In pennsylvania spotlighting for deer is a huge activity with folks and a great scouting tool.
Post by: woodywsu on August 03, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
Perfectly legal to spotlight all year with no weapon in the car
Not true. Wardens can cite you for harassing wildlife and they will.
Post by: seth30 on August 03, 2010, 11:05:30 AM
In pennsylvania spotlighting for deer is a huge activity with folks and a great scouting tool.
were in washington :chuckle:
Post by: Hangfire on August 04, 2010, 09:19:53 PM
Original License fee--$36 (5 years)
late renewal & late penalty fee- $42
Replacement fee- $10
FBI fingerprint fee- $19.25
There has been a tremendous change in the spot lighting laws in Washington in the past few decades.
Until a few years ago being in a area where there were deer, with a light, and a fire arm was prima facie evidence of spot lighting.
The Elokia Lake road south of Elokia lake in Spokane county, a mile west of the lake, used to bend to the right. Any person driving that road and making the right hand turn, there lights shined the alfalfa field. This field always had deer at night. If a person stopped or drove slowly so there lights would shine up the deer, was taking a chance of getting stopped by a game protector, as they were known then. If you had a fire arm you would be written. A case made in that field, under those conditions, went to the state supreme court and the person found guilty of spot lighting. The basis of the prima facie evidence ruling. In those years a game protector was exempt from state tresspassing laws when in the preformace of there duty.
These laws have changed but still people remember them.
Post by: Hangfire on August 04, 2010, 09:22:48 PM
Post by: lokidog on August 04, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
I'm not paying $60 a year to exercise my right to bear arms.for cwp????5 yrs every 5 yrs renew
well my county charges 50 every 5 yrs and its worth it to know for sure I am okey dokey with my loaded pistol on me in my rig.....the rules are screwy enough I dont want to risk it all on some stupid technicality I didn't think of.....lawyers get paid to find technicalities I dont ;)
I don't feel a need to carry a loaded handgun with me all the time so that's why I say it's not worth it for me. I only want to have a handgun on me when I'm in the woods, so I'm ok without having the permit. Any other time I'll just keep it unloaded.
Another reason to get one is to increase the number of permit holders that haven't committed a crime, hopefully that includes you. :chuckle: