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Title: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2010, 12:36:56 PM: Wolf Poll
Should some wolves be allowed to run free in Utah?

1. Yes, no exceptions
2. Yes, unless they are attacking livestock
3. No

Vote Here: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=11722172&hl=0 (http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=11722172&hl=0)

Utah Department of Agriculture & Food chief: Return of wolves could be a problem
July 26th, 2010 @ 1:00pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- A state official says recent attacks on Utah sheep and cattle herds show the kinds of conflicts that could arise if the wolf population increases in the Beehive State.

Department of Agriculture and Food chief Leonard Blackham says Utah's mountains just aren't secluded enough to prevent conflicts if wolves return in large numbers.

A U.S. Department of Agriculture official says a ranch herder in southern Idaho killed a wolf that had earlier attacked livestock in northern Utah's Cache County. An earlier report that the wolf was shot in Utah was incorrect.

The Agriculture Department official also says wildlife agents trapped and destroyed a wolf in Rich County in northern Utah on Saturday. The wolf had preyed on calves in the area.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: wolfbait on July 26, 2010, 12:44:05 PM: Should some wolves be allowed to run free in Utah?
1. Yes, no exceptions

55% (1369)
2. Yes, unless they are attacking livestock

17% (430)
3. No

28% (702)
Total Votes: 2501
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: NWBREW on July 26, 2010, 12:57:20 PM: I did not vote and I'll tell you why even though I may get flamed. If they are managed PROPERLY and not let to expand at the rate of Idaho, Montana and what is happening in Washington and soon to be Oregon. I do think there can be a balance but the number of wolves must be kept down.....way down. So ...run free, NO......Managed PROPERLY....maybe. I do not know enough about Utah. Would I shoot one if legal.....Your DAMN right I would.

OK.....let the flaming begin.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2010, 05:45:41 PM: My vote was no because all you have to do is look at the history of every other state with wolves. There is no such thing as keeping the numbers low, thus my vote. Every western and great lakes state has been sued to relist and overrun by wolves. Why will Utah or Washington be any different. :twocents:
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: bearpaw on July 26, 2010, 05:57:41 PM: just checked, we are making headway, pass to your friends

Wolf Poll
Should some wolves be allowed to run free in Utah?

1. Yes, no exceptions
40% (1593)

2. Yes, unless they are attacking livestock
16% (624)

3. No
44% (1746)

Total Votes: 3963
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: elkman54 on July 26, 2010, 06:23:15 PM: NO
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: buckhorn2 on July 26, 2010, 06:29:57 PM: I voted NO. They would be just like every where else TROUBLE.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: bonkellekter on July 26, 2010, 06:46:39 PM: I say NO.... This is something that should be left to the state to decide and they say it is a bad idea
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: jelo45110 on July 26, 2010, 06:58:26 PM: I voted NO because no one that wants to see the wolves back in the wild is interested in proper management. Every time the delisting goal has been reached here in Idaho they have moved the goal. We have fought long and hard to get control of the wolves here in our state and we still do not know if we will be able to manage them yet. The animal rights groups have lots of money to spend on court cases and will continue to fight no matter what the outcome is this time.
jelo45110
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: denali on July 26, 2010, 07:09:16 PM: NO wanted to vote Hell no, sadly not an option.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: BoomWhop on July 26, 2010, 07:31:32 PM: i voted no... :bash:
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: gasman on July 26, 2010, 08:10:59 PM: The "NO" vote now has 47%.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: Gringo31 on July 26, 2010, 08:15:07 PM: 1. Yes, no exceptions

38% (1709)
2. Yes, unless they are attacking livestock

15% (680)
3. No

47% (2139)
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: Wenatcheejay on July 26, 2010, 08:17:11 PM: No's are ahead by a few hundred.
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: 520backyard on July 26, 2010, 08:19:17 PM: Not only no but hell no.

Studies have indicated that 1 wolf eats 17 elk or 44 deer per year. At that rate the target population of 361 wolves in Washington could eat as many as 6,137 elk or 15,884 deer. Under the current draft wolf plan if wolves do not populate all wolf zones at the same time, wolves will likely overpopulate in some areas of Washington before any management can occur. Eastern Washington could end up with 1000+ wolves and that many wolves could eat as many as 17,000 elk or 44,000 deer per year in Washington before any breeding pairs are established in the Olympic Peninsula so that delisting and subsequent management can occur.

Hunters currently harvest an average of 8,000 elk and 38,000 deer in all areas of Washington . If wolves overpopulate, it is very possible that there would not be enough elk and deer to allow any hunting seasons. This would dramatically effect local economies and lifestyles. This is already occurring in Idaho, 8 elk areas are below goals, and IDFG is concerned.

http://washingtonwolf.info/ (http://washingtonwolf.info/)

Add in the elk and deer killed by the ever expanding cougar population and it's not a good thing for elk and deer numbers in Washington and for the hunters of washington.

Hell NO!
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: toe-jam on July 26, 2010, 08:24:37 PM: HELL NO
1. Yes, no exceptions
38% (1711)
2. Yes, unless they are attacking livestock
15% (681)
3. No
48% (2165)
Total Votes: 4557
Title: Re: Another Wolf Poll - Vote Now
Post by: finnman on July 26, 2010, 10:14:10 PM: NO!
No one has shown that they can properly control them, so no wolves until they provide evidence of proper management in other areas afflicted by wolves. :twocents: