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Title: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 10, 2008, 08:09:12 AM
i carry or i guess i wear a badlands 2200.. very happy with it...its a 2005 model it still is very good quality. i wear it in wa and guiding in mt... would like to get a 4500 for my own backpacking.........i looked at some of the nimrod packs, and liked them all except for one thing,, how do they expect you to haul out heads and meat in them??...
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Bearhunter on March 10, 2008, 09:12:02 AM
Have had my 2800 for probably 8 years or so.  Still a great pack.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Intruder on March 10, 2008, 09:27:41 AM
I bought a closeout Black Ridge last fall.  Decent pack (especially for the $) but for overall performance I really like the Badlands stuff. 
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 11, 2008, 07:26:52 PM
I bought a badlands 2800 recently and haven't tried it yet. I have been using a Kifaru meat shelf. For backpacking I use a Dana Design. I'm always trying new gear  :dunno:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 11, 2008, 10:12:16 PM
ever think of cutting loose the kifaru pack?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bowhuntin on March 11, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
I have been using a cabelas fanny pack the past couple years, but I want to upgrade to either the badlands 2200 or the eberlestock j104 "just one" pack. I haven't decided on which one to get. How is the badlands 2200, have you ever packed out in meat with it MountainWalk?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 11, 2008, 10:55:13 PM
its a very well thought out pack. the older ones are imo  better, but still they are solid.. so much adjustments. it has an orange shelf that can hold an elk 1/4 pretty decently.and they are very versatile, especially when it comes to packing out heads.. its an awesome investment. up here i have seen so many pack trying to imitate badlands.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bowhuntin on March 11, 2008, 11:18:06 PM
I have heard that your badlands pack has to be empty to actually carry an elk quarter. Can you actual pack out an elk quarter with your gear in your pack at the same time?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 11, 2008, 11:28:38 PM
my side pockets has my saw,knives,flag tape,stone, and some med stuff. i can take my jacket and fasten it under the pack. im not too really loaded down. just the basic need to carry stuff.ive never had to ditch gear.the batwings do expand then compress to make it nice and snug. the 2200 aint big enough though for a 3-5 day back pack hunt really.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: archery288 on March 12, 2008, 06:42:31 AM
mines not listed!!??  :dunno: haha anyways, I use the Western, and Alaskan packs by Jim Horn and Blacks Creek guide gear.  The best packs I have ever used and very durable! Comfortable, and they have an internal frame so you can pack meat out with them also.  Wouldn't ask for another pack!!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 12, 2008, 03:53:19 PM
ever think of cutting loose the kifaru pack?
Na, I don't use it much but I like it.
 Thanks for the offer.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: coyotemadness on March 12, 2008, 03:55:41 PM
Badlands 2200 for me.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: edmondshunter on March 15, 2008, 08:55:52 AM
I have a Badlands pack day pack.  H2o bladder, a few pockets, just enough room if your not going far from the truck.  Ultra comfortable, light enough, well padded.

On the longer trips, I carry an older REI day pack.  Nothing fancy about it , but it does cinch down tight to control pack size.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: PacificNWhunter on March 16, 2008, 05:52:38 PM
For overnight trips I have an Arc'teryx Bora 80, I know it's not a meat hauler by any means but it is the most comfortable pack I have every worn. I have only had it a few months and have had it loaded up to 60 lbs  a couple time on hikes with no problems. I also have a Nimrod pack for hauling stuff to much for my Arc-teryx.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: addicted on March 16, 2008, 06:10:26 PM
jim horn blacks creek western. 2200 i believe. built the same as the badlands with the bonus of the adjustable straps for tall and short people. im too short for a badlands to fit proper usually.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Slider on March 16, 2008, 08:03:03 PM
I Have 2 Badlands. I use the Superday all the time. I tried Bivying in the 2200 and its just not big enough. I did use it(empty)to pack 3/4 of a Boned out Deer in Very Steep Country. It worked really well for that. Between the 2 for a day trip I will grab the Superday everytime!!! Good Luck
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 16, 2008, 08:42:26 PM
I did not vote cause you don't have my pack. Its a Barney's Pinnacle and it is the best pack I have ever used for packing. I have packed a whole boned elk with no problems to the pack. I also have a Arc'teryx Bora 80 and a 95 which are great packs up to hundred pound loads. My early season scouting pack is a Osprey Aether 60. Branden
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: ICEMAN on March 16, 2008, 08:44:45 PM
How many pounds of meat were on the pack with a whole boned out elk?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: mossback91 on March 16, 2008, 08:49:03 PM
How many pounds of meat were on the pack with a whole boned out elk?
It must have been suckiing on the tit still :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 16, 2008, 10:09:18 PM
I never had a chance to weigh that pack. It was the heaviest pack I have ever packed though. Here is a pic of the bull.
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Here is a pic of the canyon that it was shot in. It was on the other side towards the bottom. Yeah I packed it up this side.
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Hey mossback91, just cause you are to fat and old to ever do any real hunting does not mean others can't.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: mossback91 on March 16, 2008, 10:14:59 PM
HAHA Im only 18 man.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 16, 2008, 10:16:10 PM
Well, then maybe to young and still fat.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: mossback91 on March 16, 2008, 10:17:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 16, 2008, 10:19:49 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: BrushChimp on March 16, 2008, 11:24:50 PM
Impressive. A whole boned out bull elk.. That'd be pushing 225 lbs. Well done.

I recently purchased the Dwight Schuh Mega hunting pack. 5600 cu. inches. I hope to try it out for the first time this fall in archery season. Don't plan on packing that much weight though. I wouldn't make it very far, lol.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: robb92 on March 17, 2008, 02:50:44 AM
I use a military rucksack with the daypack attached to it. It has a very stiff metal frame that can be adjusted for lumbar support. When I took it with me bear hunting I had all the essentials ie rain gear, extra clothes, survival kit, and all my calls and knives.

I was given several of them for free, some were used and some knew but they work great and the best part is they didn't cost anything.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Bigshooter on March 17, 2008, 02:08:26 PM
I am going to buy badlands pack soon, still deciding what size.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: cohoho on March 25, 2008, 12:42:36 AM
I am not trying to stir the pot, but.........  Wow! :dunno: a whole Bull de-boned in one pack!  Curious, I guess is more the reason I'm even creating a response.  An average Mature Bull is about #700, could be higher, but let keep that number in mind to be on the conservative side.  Now, I'm going to flip to another animal, something I am quite familiar with and packed enough to know what I am talking about, Caribou.  A small female weighs in at about #150 and a mature Bull #500, carcass weights on those same two animals is about #75-#250.  De-boned to nothing but meat prepared for packaging, no cartilage, bones, fat, etc... is about #55-#175, lets add the cape probably wet and not scraped completely, close to #30, horns let's add another #15, no skull. 

So for this discussion sake we'll say your bull was smaller sized closer to the #500 range. (By the way it is a very nice looking animal).

#220 in a incredible high quality pack @#6, some of your hunting gear(knives, bone saw, water bottle, change of socks, maybe a game bag or two), we'll go light here say #5 more there and rifle, well about #8.  WOW! 239lbs and you made it up the freaking hill.  Let me know when your available, I'll hire you for a Sherpa.....  Can't imagine what it could have been with a mature #700-800 Bull Elk.....
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: ICEMAN on March 25, 2008, 06:02:36 AM
Agree. Hence my question before; "How much weight was in the pack?"
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: huntingnut on March 25, 2008, 06:17:51 AM
I have a Blacks Creek Alaskan. I was between it and the Badlands 2800. I like the expandable meat pocket that puts the weight right next to your back and not on top of your gear. They are truely a excellent quality pack, and thier made in Boise.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bowhuntin on March 25, 2008, 06:30:30 AM
I did not vote cause you don't have my pack. Its a Barney's Pinnacle and it is the best pack I have ever used for packing. I have packed a whole boned elk with no problems to the pack. I also have a Arc'teryx Bora 80 and a 95 which are great packs up to hundred pound loads. My early season scouting pack is a Osprey Aether 60. Branden

So in one trip you are saying you packed out some 200 lbs. of meat with that pack? If that is what you are claiming I would have to say :bs:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 25, 2008, 07:38:01 AM
if i cant get two shoulders, two straps, two hams, one head and cape on a MULE i have severe doubts that this fellow could even put such a heavy pack on byhimself.. :bs:              i wasnt going to sayanything,, but....bs
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Cougeyes on March 25, 2008, 01:41:16 PM
I use a Cabelas Alaskan Frame Pack with lots of compartments.  It is a comfortable pack with lots of straps and can hold a lot which I hate because I tend to put more meat in it than I can actually pack.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 26, 2008, 10:11:36 PM
Just cause you guys can't does not mean I can not. And I was not including the cape and antlers in that. I ran back down for the cape and antlers. Also I think the bulls in Colorado are not as big as the bulls in Washington. All the meat on my buddies bull weighed about 270 with the leg bones. There is no way that the bulls we shot in Colorado were that big.

I know a couple guys that cut bulls in half and pack them out that way. Also one of those guys packed a whole spike out. It does happen.

It happens by Men who hunt elk.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 01:04:01 AM
I think this question was on here awhile ago but without the poll ... I have the Badlands 2800 and it is awsome! some have seen these before but here's how it works.

With just your gear.
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now you got something so you open it up.
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And put your meat inside (which has an internal pack BOARD ... not just a FRAME)
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Then you pull the bat wings back over and strap them up and your ready to get your partner to help you get the 80 pounds on your back.

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See I dont have a lifted truck and a little wiener so I'm not afraid to tell you guy's that I don't carry more than 80 pounds!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 27, 2008, 05:47:05 AM
So M_Ray you are trying to tell us that packing a whole large elk out with this pack is unconcievable in one trip and that you would rather save the wear and tear on your body than get injured trying to over do it? Possibly brains will win over braun 90% of the time.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: ICEMAN on March 27, 2008, 06:19:50 AM
M Ray, thanks for the pics. Looks like a cool pack.

But, I am tired of carrying meat, and, I only want to make one trip with a whole elk, so I am opting for the Barneys Pinnacle Miracle pack, the one with the Superman Logo, so I can save my time. I am a man, and I hunt Elk!

Branden, the reason I am being an ass is; (you seem to try to insult all others here who apparently arent men cause we take a few trips to carry elk out...) and more importantly; because your story seemed a bit implausible... (difficult to believe. ) I simply wanted to know how much meat you are talking about carrying out, in one trip, on your pack. Answer the damned question. IF you were saying that "we leave the rib cage meat, the heart, the liver, all forearm/foreleg meat,...and only take the quarters and backstraps... " then I can (maybe) see carrying out only the meat from the quarters..... 

How much do you think your pack weighed, with your one trip elk?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 27, 2008, 08:14:48 AM
Hey Mray, That hurts I have a little wiener and a lifted truck but I'll only pack around 80#.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

 I see that you compensating with a Harley though  :chuckle:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: MountainWalk on March 27, 2008, 08:50:32 AM
where is the picture of this huge load on his back?..if i was ever dumb enough to pull that kinda stunt i would want a picture to remind me how stupid i was..
 
im not ashamed to say that in the absence of a mule, it takes me 4-5 trips in my 2200
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bobcat on March 27, 2008, 08:51:21 AM
I have the Eberlestock J104. Great pack. I've packed out a couple of deer with it, but never an elk.

For elk I've always used my Cabela's Alaskan frame pack. It'll hold way more than I can or will carry. If I ever have the opportunity I'm sure my Eberlestock would be up to packing a quarter of an elk at a time, deboned of course.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 09:30:46 AM
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Hey Mray, That hurts I have a little wiener and a lifted truck but I'll only pack around 80#.   

Unlucky ... you are a real loser then!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: robodad on March 27, 2008, 09:37:40 AM
Maybe this has been covered in here but I must have missed it, I know some of you must be (I hate to say "wide load" but) very broad in the shoulders and maybe a little high in the PSI if you know what I mean.

Are there any companies that make a "Big and Tall" hunting pack ?? I can't seem to wear most of the packs out there cause the straps are sewn too close together and I feel like I am in a full nelson all the time. Maybe it is a suggestion we can make to the manufacturers of some of these packs !!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 09:52:41 AM
bobcat- speaking of your Cabelas Alaskan frame here is a pic of me with my Elk head on it. I fiddled around trying to get it on my Badlands cause I really wanted to carry it on there but my buddies got impatient and just put it on the Cabelas.
I guess I fibbed a bit cause this is a 100 plus # pack here (said I only carry 80) and my buddie standing there has at least 80-90 pounds of boned meat and my 2800 is on the ground with another 70-80 pounds of boned meat and this is our third and final trip between three guy's and our first 2 trips were much the same! That's 9 trips with a minimum of 70 pounds and a head, Granted we didn't bone the quarters but that would have only shaved two trips at best so realistically if it were all boned it would have been 7 trips, 6 meat and 1 head.

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Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: archery288 on March 27, 2008, 09:57:00 AM
thats always a good sight mark!!!  :drool: congrats  again
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: huntingnut on March 27, 2008, 09:57:10 AM
Maybe this has been covered in here but I must have missed it, I know some of you must be (I hate to say "wide load" but) very broad in the shoulders and maybe a little high in the PSI if you know what I mean.

Are there any companies that make a "Big and Tall" hunting pack ?? I can't seem to wear most of the packs out there cause the straps are sewn too close together and I feel like I am in a full nelson all the time. Maybe it is a suggestion we can make to the manufacturers of some of these packs !!

Check out www.blacks-creek.com they have a shoulder and waist strap made for thier packs desinged for big guys. I have the Alaskan and find that the waist strap rides a little high, I am thinking about upgrading to this strap to help. They are truely great pack I love mine.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 10:00:54 AM
Thanks Jon!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 27, 2008, 10:35:15 AM
Maybe this has been covered in here but I must have missed it, I know some of you must be (I hate to say "wide load" but) very broad in the shoulders and maybe a little high in the PSI if you know what I mean.

Are there any companies that make a "Big and Tall" hunting pack ?? I can't seem to wear most of the packs out there cause the straps are sewn too close together and I feel like I am in a full nelson all the time. Maybe it is a suggestion we can make to the manufacturers of some of these packs !!


 Check out the Mystery Ranch packs, They are designed by By Dana Gleason, Owner of Dana Design before they sold out to a foriegn company They have models that are built for big guys. I use an old Dana internal that I have and I'm 6'-5" and 275. I've had a 100+ in it a few times and its as comfortable as a pack can be with that kind of weight.

 I went and bought a Badlands 2800 at the portland sportsmans show, partially due to a past post on this site. I took it on a 7 mile hike last weekend. Its a good pack but I have issues with the amount it can carry. You can get a ton of meat on it the way Mray shows in the pics but the main compartment is too small. I can't get my winter bag in the sleeping bag compartment, probably b/c its an extra long. I think an average size bag would fit OK. I think the 2800 would make an excellent day pack or hunting in the summer as a 3-day pack max.
 Just my opinion.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 27, 2008, 06:41:28 PM
The not Man enough comment was directed at the 2 guys that called me a liar. bowhuntin and valleywalker. Nobody else.

As for M-ray I weighed my buddies bull from Washington state. The head and cape exactly how you have yours and it only weighed 75-76 pounds. So there is no way that your pack is over 80 since his bull was bigger. Your meat packs were probably more like 50-60.

Iceman. I think the pack was over 200 pounds. I have packed a weighed 135 pound pack and this one was way heavier. The reason I did not say how much I think it weighed is because I don't want to  come up with bogus numbers like m-ray. I could not pick up the pack. I had to lay on my back to get my arms in the straps and then roll over.

Here is a Question for all of you.
If a guy can Squat 315 pounds for reps, 3 sets, then why could he not pack a 200 plus pound pack up that hill? Squats are harder because you go way lower. I also used hiking sticks, which if you have never used them before then you would probably not believe how much weight they take off your legs.

 I don't really care if some guys on the internet believe me or not. Everybody I hunt with knows the truth.

I am sorry this got so off topic. Branden
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: ICEMAN on March 27, 2008, 07:28:17 PM
Branden, sorry if I came off wrong. At least for me, and I am big, over 300lbs buck naked  :'( , I feel that it is unwise to try to take so much of a load. Lifting weights is in a controlled environment with a flat floor, and a medic nearby if needed. Packing your elk, you are on loose irregular ground, in the elements (hot or cold), with an elevated heart rate due to the excitement. If you get injured, your buddies must now drop the meat, and worry about you.

This whole gripe session is probably more about being safe, than macho. We are all macho. I for one am a big ass Mfing Macho MFer, who can guzzle booze, eat live meat, and blow fire out my ass and nose at the same time, I just aint going to risk getting myself hurt, or others, when we score an elk. When we have elk down, we slow down and enjoy the conclusion of a part of our hunt. Cherish this moment, dont risk or ruin it.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 27, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
Iceman, I only packed it up the hill. I would never pack that much down. To hard on my knees. I would not have done it except that we had another bull down that the other guys had to cut up.

Also if you have never tried trekking poles you should. I brought my extra pairs for the guys in Colorado and now they are all getting a set. They really help no matter if going up or down hill. Branden
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: ICEMAN on March 27, 2008, 09:07:40 PM
Beenhiking for over thirty years. Hiking poles are great, the most benefit I found was on the down hill, and especially side hilling..... I have even bent my snowshoe poles while snowshoeing... Need heavier poles... 
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2008, 09:36:38 PM
I use a badlands 2200, I packed a bull out for a lady , a nice little 5x5 roosie. I put 1 hind quarter and 1 shoulder and 1 backstrap on my pack. Those were not boned. How much did that pack weigh? I had to do the same as Branden when I got up. I am not a big guy about 155. M-Ray knows he met me at the sportsmans show. I didnot have far to go only about 4-500 yards and it was flat and down hill.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Branden, Now you can tell the wieght from a picture? wow you are somthin else! BTW I have pictures and Cabelas wieght scales to prove mine wheres yours? Remember I'm not the one who claimed I packed an entire boned elk out in one pack!

Spose you're gonna tell me this is a 50-60 pound pack too? well this one was wieghed too bud and not near as heavy as the elk head and allot more than 50-60! Next you're probably gonna tell me what's in this pack too huh?

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Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bowhuntin on March 27, 2008, 10:03:07 PM
The not Man enough comment was directed at the 2 guys that called me a liar. bowhuntin and valleywalker. Nobody else.

As for M-ray I weighed my buddies bull from Washington state. The head and cape exactly how you have yours and it only weighed 75-76 pounds. So there is no way that your pack is over 80 since his bull was bigger. Your meat packs were probably more like 50-60.

Iceman. I think the pack was over 200 pounds. I have packed a weighed 135 pound pack and this one was way heavier. The reason I did not say how much I think it weighed is because I don't want to  come up with bogus numbers like m-ray. I could not pick up the pack. I had to lay on my back to get my arms in the straps and then roll over.

Here is a Question for all of you.
If a guy can Squat 315 pounds for reps, 3 sets, then why could he not pack a 200 plus pound pack up that hill? Squats are harder because you go way lower. I also used hiking sticks, which if you have never used them before then you would probably not believe how much weight they take off your legs.

 I don't really care if some guys on the internet believe me or not. Everybody I hunt with knows the truth.

I am sorry this got so off topic. Branden

The only reason I called you on that being BS is the picture you posted a picture of that country and you didn't give any details as to how far you had to go. If it was only up hills not to far with trekking poles, then I can see some one being able to do it and probably wouldn't even have bothered questioning it. I just assumed you were packing that much weight a long distance as in a few miles back to the truck. Maybe next time when you post something you should elaborate on it more, so people don't call you out. If you don't and say things like you did then people are going to call you on it.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 10:16:26 PM
 
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You can get a ton of meat on it the way Mray shows in the pics but the main compartment is too small. I can't get my winter bag in the sleeping bag compartment

Actionshooter, I was thinking ??? the same thing ... What if you put your fart sack in one of those big huge zip locks along with anything else you might fit in there to keep dry and stowe it like the meat sacks on the inside strapped to the board?

Then you would have enough pocket space for all of your other items & I was thinking you might even get your tent and poles on the inside too! I have yet to try this out but I'll let you know if I do!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2008, 11:30:54 PM
M-Ray is that a whole boned out muley in that pack? I had my whole buck boned out in my badlands this year with the head and cape and I weighed that on my cabelas scale at 140 lbs! I love my Badlands. I went up a steep clearcut about 300-350 yards and then about 6-800 yards uphill on the road and had to dump some meat. Just couldnt handle that much weight for that far. 90 Lbs isnt to bad downhill!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 27, 2008, 11:37:38 PM
Nahh Believe it or not that's 1/3 of it!  oh ya I have a little of my camp in there too but not much just a little cookware a stove & a 3 1/2 pound sleeping bag. I left the rest of my camp in there and had to come back for it! I wasn't willing to leave the Fart sack in there in case mice found it!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bucklucky on March 27, 2008, 11:39:30 PM
Thats cool! I like the picture , looks like a nice spot for a camp. Was that washington?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 28, 2008, 06:31:40 AM
M_Ray are both of those pictures of your packs Badland packs? I didn't recognize the black and silverish one.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 10:34:52 AM
Bucklucky- Yeah that's Washington.

Skyval- The grey and black pack is a Infinity and I'm not sure which other you are talking about but My elk head is on a Cabelas Alaskan. My buddies I was with got a little tired of waiting as I tried to get the head on my Badlands (first time I tried to get something that big on it, I know how I would do it now) and talked me into putting it on the Cabalas. I did take my first 2 trips with the badlands 2800 and about 70 pound average and it handled it fine and most importantly it was comfortable.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Coasthunterjay on March 28, 2008, 11:32:23 AM
What about KELTY?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 28, 2008, 11:49:48 AM
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Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bucklucky on March 28, 2008, 11:57:18 AM
It just takes OLD Guys more trips ! Grin
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: boneaddict on March 28, 2008, 12:08:55 PM
Here is an old Kelty.  Its been retired
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Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 28, 2008, 12:12:05 PM
So Bone if that Kelty is retired what did you get to replace it with?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Coasthunterjay on March 28, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
Yeah my dad baught a KELTY at sportsmanswhore house about 7 years ago and after about 10 elk, a couple bears, pleanty of deer and whatever else you could shove in the damn thing i think my dad is descided to go KELTY again.....great pack....

Im more of a lightweight person but i have been thinking about elk hunting and getting into a weekend pack or a larger day pack, But KELTY has impressed me, HIGHLY!!!!

And im not the richest person in the world, But wone thing i have been taught is that you need to depend on your gear 100%.....There should never be a question with the toold you use in the field, so you could say KELTY earned my respect......
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 02:21:26 PM
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Pretty ignorant on my part isn't it. Just like its ignorant for anybody who was not there to tell me that I did or did not pack out the elk.

And since you still are being a dick, which I bet you would not to my face, I am going to tell you what I really think. If it seriously took 3 guys 9 trips to pack out an elk then they are a bunch of pansies! I have never heard of that. 4-5 trips I can see, but come on 9?

Branden

Branden,
 At least you got one part of your statement right yes you are ignorant! And you don't retain the information you read very well either... it took us 3 trips to get my elk out ... my comparison to your story would have been 9 trips for one Pansie like the rest of us since we can't carry it all in one trip like you ... get it? 3x3 so 8 one way trips and a head = 9 if you were to do it by yourself.

And call me a dick if you like but you aren't doing yourself any favors here for trying to defend your original statement in fact you are very defensive towards me and I never called you out or said specifically that I thought you were BS ing! In none of my post do have to resort to name calling to get my point across I simply stated facts and now I am repeating your very own statements remember you started with the Pansy, dick & ignorant statements not me.
Sorry I'm a dick cause I don't think you can tell me how much something weighs by looking at a picture.
In fact that muley pack was weighed at the truck after I packed it over 3 miles and it was 78 pounds. Did you also consider that it's pretty ignorant to say your buddies had to weigh more cause it had more points? did you ever think about that if you cut a cape farther back it will weigh more? I've ruined capes in the past (ask tmike) and this one was cut at the ass! And I also had neck meat and scraps shoved in that pack and I never go without my 64 oz bladder of water and usually back that up with two 20oz bottles which will add weight.
 Are you gonna tell me that my butcher in Ellensburg was lying about the weight too? I know what it cost to process it. I Ended up with 148 one pound packages of burger 145 packages of steaks and Four 4 pound roasts. Even if i was conservative on small packages of steaks (which are not ...anyone who knows Scribner knows he doesn't do any of them small!) it would still be  250 pounds (probably got closer to 300) and not to mention I think you would probably bone it out better than a butcher and have more! We didn't bone it out so since you didn't ask I'll tell ya that they were probably heavier with bones in them ya think?

So I'll stand in line with all the others on this board and watch you put 250 pounds on your back and carry it out the mile and a half that I did over blow downs across creeks and up hills with my little weenie packs and when you do it I'll shake your hand and call you a tuff guy if that makes you feel better.

Look the topic isn't how you are a big strong Manley man and that everyone else is a pansy because we can't pack it out in one trip like Branden. All animals are different sizes and weights and I simply told the story of how the Badlands 2800 Worked for me along with the Cabelas Alaskan. And since I don't need to prove how tuff I am I'll let you ask my Buddies if I have ever been scared to call someone a dick to their face. If you are I'll let you know ...right now I would'nt say it yet but I do think you made a statement that offended the integrity of some fine men and now you are digging yourself a deeper hole by defending it rather than being a real man and apologizing.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bucklucky on March 28, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
Hey M-Ray, For what its worth I dont think your a Dick!
That guy is really pissin you off aint he!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: jackelope on March 28, 2008, 02:27:31 PM
back on track, gang...
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 28, 2008, 02:35:44 PM
M-Ray can I use you, T-mike and your pack to help me get an elk and pack it out this fall?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
Sorry Jakelope I do have a hard time backing down and yeah I'm a dick but I don't need some guy that doesn't know me calling me one at least he could do is meet me first  :chuckle:
promise I'll be good!
and thanks Bucklucky I know I just have a hard time not playing a little game with someone when I see that their panties are in a knot!  :chuckle:
Is this gonna be like the playgroung and now me and Branden are gonna be bestest friends?
Hey that's not a bad idea I am allways up for a good packer!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 02:39:13 PM
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M-Ray can I use you, T-mike and your pack to help me get an elk and pack it out this fall?
 

Sure would'nt you rather have Branden?  :DOH: There I go again god I'm such a dick and just after I told jackelpoe I would be good ... ok I'll go stand in the corner for 5 minutes hang on!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 02:50:11 PM
Skyvalhunter- Anytime as long as I'm not allready hunting and that goes for just about anyone else who needs help, I'm allways up for a good pack. I get that from a old friend of mine that I used to hunt with you could call that guy in the middle of the night (and I did) and he would get out of bed and come help you find your animal! Or he would be up for helping you get one. And he would do it for anybody so I guess I have allways wanted to be that way and return the favor. Plus even if I go to help someone else and it's not my tag I still really enjoy the opportunity to spend more days in the field.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: robodad on March 28, 2008, 02:53:46 PM
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Sure would'nt you rather have Branden?   There I go again god I'm such a dick

For what it is worth, I don't think this is worth calling names over, it is just a little disagreement afterall. M-Ray your not a dick !!

I took a look at a picture of Branden with a 4pt deer and judging by his size I don't think he could pack 2oolbs for 1ooyds even on flat ground, so whatever, maybe judging folks by photos isn't a good idea !!

And He seems like a hot head anyway so there is no place by my campfire for a person like that.

Shape up kid you got some growing up to do !!

Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 03:32:00 PM

Thanks my thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bowhuntin on March 28, 2008, 03:58:10 PM
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Sure would'nt you rather have Branden?   There I go again god I'm such a dick

For what it is worth, I don't think this is worth calling names over, it is just a little disagreement afterall. M-Ray your not a dick !!

I took a look at a picture of Branden with a 4pt deer and judging by his size I don't think he could pack 2oolbs for 1ooyds even on flat ground, so whatever, maybe judging folks by photos isn't a good idea !!

And He seems like a hot head anyway so there is no place by my campfire for a person like that.

Shape up kid you got some growing up to do !!



I took a look at his picture too and that is why I made a statement about him and packing a whole elk in one trip. If he did do it great for him, but I hope he knows a good doctor because if you continue to take loads like that your knees and back aren't going to last long and neither is your hunting career.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: cohoho on March 28, 2008, 03:58:54 PM
Here is one of the only pic's I got of a pack out for Caribou up north (2001), this an older Dwight Schultz pac, it is the reason I switched to Elberstock, anyhow this is our last load (2nd) trip, buddy used his Military pack (big mistake), we each had approx 80-90lbs boned meat per pack, no capes and he said the heck with the Caribou antlers out five miles or so off the road system.  The terrain (Tundra) is like walking on a water bed with bowling bowls and rock tossed around for good measures. Takes about 2 hours out and 4 hours return.  Normally, we camp out and pack loads back lighter each time, leaving last, as law requires, Antlers and cape.  Standing up requires roll to the knees and hands then kind of lean back one leg then the other to get up.  It is torture for sure, but year after year, we do it again, one day I won't be able to do the return trip, and then I guess I'll have to pay the pilot the money....  I will agree to everyone is different to how much weight one can carry and endure, my buddy was long time RANGER and was quite used to long heavy weight ruck marches for over twenty years, he is the toughest guy I know and he stated it was one of the hardest ruck march he'd ever done. But returns with me every year to do it again.  We just do it smarter, more trips and lighter loads with quality gear now.... with #1 rule only - One Caribou per two people per day packing back!!!!!!!!  

Not that any one cares but I start walking with thirty-five #'s for 5-10 miles 3 days a week for a month then add 10-15#'s each month till I get to 75#'s comfortable for that distance.  Week before heading out I do several hikes with 90lbs (on flat ground) to be sure I can grunt it up there.  
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: boneaddict on March 28, 2008, 04:04:37 PM
All I know is that I am 6'5" and of rather broad stature of a farmboy, and it takes me several trips.  i guess I bring out more than the backstraps and tenderloins.  The packloads or "quarters" of moose I was carrying in Alaska were 180 pounds for the rear hips each.  I thought that was just about enough for me and my pack.  Go Nimrod! (thats the packs brand)
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 28, 2008, 05:10:57 PM
 The packloads or "quarters" of moose I was carrying in Alaska were 180 pounds for the rear hips each.  I thought that was just about enough for me and my pack.  Go Nimrod! (thats the packs brand)
Hey bone, thanks for clarifying that  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: actionshooter on March 28, 2008, 05:19:03 PM
 Heres a pic of the nasty stuff cohoho was talking about and since I didn't have a scale to weigh my pack it was about 274#   :chuckle: :chuckle:

 On a serious note that ground was some of the toughest packing I have ever done, Real threat of a twisted or broken ankle  :(
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 08:58:57 PM
I'm not even going to try and guess the weight of that pack I'll just take your word for it  ;) that looks nasty and heavy. Nice job to you and cohoho on those guy's, Hey cohoho tell me you didn't walk off and leave that GPS sitting there where you took the picture?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Branden on March 28, 2008, 09:24:35 PM
I am sorry for insulting anybody that is insulted by this thread. To me I felt M-ray was saying the same thing as previous posters did, which was that I was a liar. So I am sorry M-ray.

Also the pic of the little guy with the buck is not me, I was the one taking the pic.

Branden
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Coasthunterjay on March 28, 2008, 09:34:54 PM
Tis the season for PMS or what. we can call this the hunt wa weekly, LOL.......i think we all need to get out and shoot something so that we can all calm down........lol :chuckle: you guys are hellarious.

So really i believe this is all about what packs we think are the best........

I need one so can we get back to the post..........

We are all sportsman, friends, and first of all adults so lets act like it.....
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: robodad on March 28, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
All righty then !!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 09:51:24 PM
Thanks for that Branden (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi241.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff122%2Fmray30%2Fapplause.gif&hash=aa05b8eeeb081647d334d91e3cc3759a4295a4d6) Were cool!
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: Coasthunterjay on March 28, 2008, 09:57:35 PM
So are these packs that you all carry everytime you all go out everywhere. Or do you use this just for the longer big game hunting.......

Would these packs like the badland packs be good for Day hikes into areas and then walking out the same day for elk? with the possability that you might have to pack out a quarter but most likely not get anything at all......

How much do these big packs weigh?

Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: huntingnut on March 28, 2008, 10:10:54 PM
coasthunterjay, check out the Blacks Creek Canadian. It is 2000 c.i. pack with lots of nice pockets for caring spotting scopes, tripods, rifles, bows, water bladders, and expands for packing out meat. The thing that I like the most is the expansion for carring meat. It opens up right against your back and puts the heavy part of the load in close. I saw them at Joe's in Issaquah. I got a Alaskan from Archery-Sports at an excellent price. The Canadian is a light weight pack that I think would make an excellent pack where you may have to pack out meat. www.blacks-creek.com
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Well Jay Now that you ask that is the whole reason I bought that Badlands 2800! I got tired of huffing it back to the truck with a game bag of meat over my shoulder like Santa Clause just to get the packboard. This pack hauls everything like a day pack and then converts into a pack board right there when you need one. I looked at the Eberlestock too and I know guy's are very fond of that pack but the the Eberlestock is 9 pounds dry and the Badlands comes in at 3 1/2 empty ... so why start off with 5 1/2 pounds more from the get go?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: jackelope on March 28, 2008, 10:20:07 PM
my rig...eberlestock x1...2100 cubic inches and 5 lbs. makes for a good daypack. it's heavier than the badlands...both are great packs no doubt. i could fenagle a quarter onto it if needed.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 10:21:44 PM
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The thing that I like the most is the expansion for carring meat. It opens up right against your back and puts the heavy part of the load in close.

Not familliar with these packs but sounds like the badlands! The Badlands also has lots of pockets and room for a scope and a pocket for a 64oz water bladder here's another picture of mine in the feild with a scope and tripod, Oh and a shed!
 
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Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
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my rig...eberlestock x1...2100 cubic inches and 5 lbs

Just so there is no confusion the Eberlestock at 9 pounds I was comparing to is the larger one since I was looking fro a 2800 cubic pack. i think the Badlands 2200 that would be in the same class as jakelopes here is 3 pounds so a couple pounds difference.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: jackelope on March 28, 2008, 10:33:39 PM
i knew that.
 ;)

this is the 8lb'er m_ray is talking about.
http://www.eberlestock.com/J107%20Dragonfly.htm

it starts at 2900, and will expand to 5425, and then if you add the spike camp duffel...7900 c.i.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 28, 2008, 10:37:28 PM
Wow it definatly expands to carry a load! Sorry I thought it was 9 but I guess 8 1/2 is pretty close.  :)
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: cohoho on March 28, 2008, 11:09:41 PM
Why I choose it was for that very reason, slim when you go in.  I got the zip off bag also, that makes great to leave all the camping gear in.  The other reason was the rifle scabbard keep the gun off my shoulders and out of the hands.  When you can see for three miles in anyone direction you don't need quick access to the gun.  If you cut off the bottom part of it and tighten the inside strap the gun still stays in securely but you do shed a pound.  I just haven't got the guts to cut a $250 pack up yet,,,,,    I thought there was only a pound between the two, but oh well.  I had a Badlands, but I couldn't get it fitting right for some reason? This one fits nicely and the weight is off the shoulders and on the hip, better for me.

Bone, I know what your talking about on hind qrts of a moose, min 165lbs per each one, thank goodness we never ever shot one far from the boat.... Did have a fellow tell me packed two qrts three miles inside his pack, an old Military Alice pack.  I smiled and let him tell his story..  Me too, but the pack was on the bow of the boat at the time... Although the trip was 16 or so miles....

M-Ray- No, I remembered the GPS, it is the old Garmin 12XL, love that thing till it finally quit due to being ejected out of a boat that was filling up with water, quickly, but that's another story.... 
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: huntingnut on March 29, 2008, 07:52:19 PM
This is truely one of my favorite features. The orange part is the expansion. When going in empty that part zips up closed.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: M_ray on March 29, 2008, 07:58:27 PM
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M-Ray- No, I remembered the GPS, it is the old Garmin 12XL, love that thing till it finally quit due to being ejected out of a boat that was filling up with water, quickly, but that's another story....

cohoho- What do we have to do to get ya to tell that one?
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: wadu1 on October 13, 2008, 11:34:53 AM
I have founf the Kelty Ram 2000 is the most comfortable for me. It has a Hunter orange cover in a pouch at the bottom, I have not been able to use it yet. The only draw back I can not is the lack of Buddie locks. :hello:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: blindpig on October 15, 2008, 11:31:37 AM
The badlands 2200.  Its pretty much waterproof, comfortable and has a very handy "pocket" for hauling out quarters.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: deaddog on October 15, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
I like a shane pack. he,s 6' 8", 285lb and works for meat. :tup:
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: stlhdr1 on October 16, 2008, 08:27:25 PM
Badlands 4500 for me... Pack fits killer.....

Keith
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: mlgunkel on October 16, 2008, 09:25:28 PM
bull-pac  http://www.bullpacs.com/ (ftp://http://www.bullpacs.com/)
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: WonkyWapiti on October 19, 2008, 04:21:21 PM
I've got two Badlands packs, the Superday and a smaller one with the mesh screen to keep the pack off your back but I can't remember the name of it.  They are really tough packs.  I love the side/hip pouches on the Superday which makes it easy to access gear without taking of my pack. 
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: BrettinWen on November 19, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
NIMROD Pack out of Cashmere. best pack out there but a little on the spendy side.
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: rasbo on November 20, 2008, 10:34:34 AM
Freighter frame for game,I think its called the alaskan now not sure,not to expensive.cabelas has it,Ive packed out a ton of game and it works well for me,
Title: Re: hunting packs
Post by: bighorns2bushytails on November 20, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
i like the nimrod system so far.  almost got a badlands but decided the nimrod was more versatile for me.  didnt see that one as an option for the votes but thats what i got and so far im happy.

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