Post by: PolarBear on August 07, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Just wondering if using fluorocarbon leader (for salmon) is worth the extra or is it just hype?
Post by: jackelope on August 07, 2010, 04:21:07 PM
Post by: boneaddict on August 07, 2010, 04:26:39 PM
Post by: boneaddict on August 07, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
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slips knots easilyIn comparison to tradidional leaders that is. Its harder to get a good knot and in experience thats its weakness, that and cost. I never worried about cost becasue I figure how much fuel I use etc, and if I can have more hookups....
Post by: PolarBear on August 07, 2010, 04:56:05 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on August 07, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
I did give it a try last fall but noticed that it was a pain to work with and standard knots were not as reliable. Is it that much more transparent than good old clear mono?
Polar yes way more transparency.
Get some of the higher end ones P-Line / Seaquer. And they work just fine on the knots and tensil strength. If all possible I always try to tie palomer knots.
Joe
Post by: PolarBear on August 07, 2010, 05:02:52 PM
Post by: fishcrazy on August 07, 2010, 06:32:32 PM
Use a good quality mono like maxima UG and everythign will be fine.
Kris
Post by: FC on August 07, 2010, 09:13:32 PM
Post by: ribka on August 07, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
I did give it a try last fall but noticed that it was a pain to work with and standard knots were not as reliable. Is it that much more transparent than good old clear mono?
Polar yes way more transparency.
Get some of the higher end ones P-Line / Seaquer. And they work just fine on the knots and tensil strength. If all possible I always try to tie palomer knots.
Joe
I really like seaguar flouro
Flouro will sometimes make a difference. I think with some trout, bass and saltwater fish( Bone fish, tarpon, stripers) I did notice a difference and had more hook-ups vs reg mono. More abrasion resistant too compared to mono
Personally do not think you need flour or steelhead or salmon. My experience is that they are not leader shy.
I like maxima mono for steelhead and salmon :twocents:
Uniknot works for me with flouro
Post by: FC on August 07, 2010, 11:32:41 PM
Post by: mkcj on August 08, 2010, 12:07:03 AM
Post by: alanger on August 08, 2010, 07:42:21 AM
Post by: ribka on August 08, 2010, 11:31:04 AM
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontest.html (http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontest.html)
As mentioned like the Seaguar flouro for leaders. Frogs hair and Rio also good but more $$$
I think more abrasion resistant IMO. However, see above article not all flouros are equal.
When tying knots do it slowwwllly when cinching knot and don't forget to lube knot.
Post by: FC on August 08, 2010, 12:21:55 PM
Post by: huntnnw on August 08, 2010, 07:14:07 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on August 08, 2010, 07:58:50 PM
Howdy!
Just wondering if using fluorocarbon leader (for salmon) is worth the extra or is it just hype?
Eric, they swear by it in BC and I can say up there, it was night a day difference, for some reason we got hits of fluoro and nothing on regular mono -every single year. I haven't used it as much in the Sound however but I would imagine it would work just as well.
Post by: PolarBear on August 08, 2010, 09:17:37 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on August 08, 2010, 09:35:16 PM
For the columbia i run 30 pound trilene big game main line and 50 pound big game leaders. I lost 2 of my favorite spinners last year on big chinook at bouy 10. Those fish don't care about line, they are still feeding...
River fishing, if i an running bobber and eggs, this year i am going with 65 pound power pro, and 25 pound flouro leaders. Heavier flouro line is better than the light stuff.
Casting plugs for river coho i run 14 pound suffix siege. Never had a roblem with it and i catch more than most.
I don't do to much drift fishing for salmon.
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on August 09, 2010, 01:34:41 PM
I wonder if it is because the water is so much clearer up there? The waters in SE Alaska were gin clear in spots. I'm primarily going to be fishing the big "C" a couple of times this month and next and it aint too clear. I'm probably going to use up what I have left and tie the rest with plain old mono.
It is at that, at least where we fished. The rivers there run crystal clear, not like the glacial rivers of the Sound.
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on August 09, 2010, 04:04:30 PM
I don't think flouro is worth the money for the columbia. When you move into the tribs i would use it.
Post by: Rick on August 09, 2010, 05:24:54 PM
Post by: ribka on August 09, 2010, 05:54:41 PM
PolarBear for steelhead in the columbia i use 30 pound main line and 20 pound leaders and i have never had a problem with that. I run heavy equipment because i hate to lose fish. I don't care who says what, the fish in the columbia are not leader shy.
I don't think flouro is worth the money for the columbia. When you move into the tribs i would use it.
X2 When fishing Met, Klick and Grande Ronde and water clears switch to flouro
Post by: ribka on August 09, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
That's pretty funny ribka, I've been using 12lb trilene for years after trying a lot of other lines that I found wanting I settled on the berkley big game 12lb for almost all of my salmon fishing from the bank. From that test I would guess that the P-line halo would be the bang for buck flourocarbon line.
Berkely big Game is good too. Used 14 lb when when fishing in Gulf for Reds and Sea trout. Oyster beds down there, near where fish are found, are really tough on line.
Different lines for different situations. Braid has its applications too
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on August 09, 2010, 07:28:19 PM
Salmon and steelhead aren't line shy. If they were,they wouldn't swim into gill nets by the millions.
Nets are entirely different, they aren't trying to eat them as far as I know.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on August 09, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on August 11, 2010, 09:32:44 AM
they aren't trying to eat your line either :P
If you rig it right, they do.
Post by: PolarBear on August 11, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on August 11, 2010, 02:42:50 PM
That's called flossing! :chuckle:
Not that kind, I know what you mean :chuckle:.
If you rig a hootchie, or anchovie with UV tubing, often they do go for the tubing on the line. My secret's out now, learned it from a guide in BC.
I don't floss in river's, won't keep anything flossed. I hooked 80 fish last year on the Puke, I put back 68 of them.
Post by: FC on August 11, 2010, 11:31:55 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on August 11, 2010, 11:37:44 PM
Post by: PolarBear on August 12, 2010, 12:05:01 AM
kind of defeats the point of sport fishing, which is to try and get them to bite.:yeah:
Where in the hell does a guy get some stinkin' Maxima clear 40 lb leader? I went to Cabela's, Holesnail Sports, Sunbirds even Wally World and nothing. :dunno: I guess that I will have to try Sportco in Fife next week and just use up the stuff from last season.
Post by: FC on August 12, 2010, 12:42:54 AM