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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: elkf3v3r on August 11, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
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im going to the skokomish river to do some fishen with my dad hes an old man never cought a salmon and im hoping i can get some tips on fishin the river so he can catch one and tips on jigs and stuff is helpful
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Stay home
Really read the other threads on here, not a quality experience.
If you must, use a corky and yarn
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Don't use corky and yarn. Use bait in an area that has fish that aren't being constantly harassed and you will do just fine. The fish there are very eager to bite bait if you can find some that aren't getting snagged by the folks using flosser setups. If you are going to drift fish, which is fine, use bait in an area where the fish aren't being snagged.
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Good luck finding a place on the Skok where fish aren't being harrassed.
If you find such a place let us all know.
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I found such a place! Try getting there early, and/or fishing out of the way pockets of water. The fish move out of the holes (often not far at all or to a different part of the hole) and bite just fine if they haven't had any lead or hook/yarn combo fly by their head for a bit. Also, unharassed is a relative term on the Skok...
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Right on
This is what I was talking about
http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/611586/11/Skokomish_fishing_for_Kings.html (http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/611586/11/Skokomish_fishing_for_Kings.html)
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Elkf3, yes it can be a rough experience, but WSU is right. If you do a little walking up or down and find a nice pocket, you will do fine. I am a drift fisherman, but I also use the bobber/eggs. The real key is the eggs. Find a hole that isn't getting messed up by the tribe or the snaggers and float eggs. The kings on the Skok are surprisingly good biters on cured eggs, once poeple realize that the fishery in that river may change. Good luck!
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I'm sure drifted eggs would be as effective if you found the right water. Just properly present some bait and you will be in business.
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Right on
This is what I was talking about
http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/611586/11/Skokomish_fishing_for_Kings.html (http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/611586/11/Skokomish_fishing_for_Kings.html)
Wow, That rocks!!! :chuckle:
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I do just fine with Yarn and corkie on most rivers, and I fish alot, as do my fishing partners. They smack it just like eggs if you are fishing it right and using the right color/size, scent combo. To say that eggs is the only way is stupid. Not many people fish the eggs because they don't need to, the fish hit the yarn and corkie just fine and you don't need to get your hands all messy in doing so. :twocents: Look how many people fish eggs as opposed to corkies. These arent steelhead, they are salmon and much more agggresive biters
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I think you have that about 100% backwards. Pretty well proven that salmon are much more receptive to bait, and that steelhead are much more a visual biter and are much less picky about what offering they will bite. If you aren't using bait for salmon, especially kings, you are getting a lot less fish to bite than you otherwise would. Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree.
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I think you have that about 100% backwards. Pretty well proven that salmon are much more receptive to bait, and that steelhead are much more a visual biter and are much less picky about what offering they will bite. If you aren't using bait for salmon, especially kings, you are getting a lot less fish to bite than you otherwise would. Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree.
I think your wrong but thats OK, if it works for you do it. All I know is I fish with some of the top fisherman in the state and we are the ones who generally will walk into a hole when no one is catching fish and we will be walking out a short time later with our limits. Most fisherman use eggs for steelies because they are the lightest biters of the salmonide species. Kings will bite nearly anything in front of them out of anger (usually) The skok is one of the easiest rivers to fish 9other than the crowds) when I fish it I walk down to the hole I fish and am usually one of the first people to catch my fish. If you need bait to catch them you probably don't havre the experience or feel to fish yarn and corkies. Probably use powerbait for trout too.
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You got me picked! Someday I hope to be as skillful as you and the rest of the "top fisherman in the state." :rolleyes:
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In my personal fishing experience, steelhead bite more frequently on an assortment of corkies, yarns, scented glow bugs, jigs and other immitation type gear. While salmon (kings in this instance) tend to take eggs or egg shrimp or egg shrimp spinglow cocktails while in the rivers. Since it is rare to catch steelhead in the salt there is no arguement from me on that side. However, I have caught a few kings in the rivers on spoons, vibrex's and cut-plug. Just talking the Skok, eggs are the way to go. The kings are so used to black yarn either bieng fished or snagged at them that they are hesitant to strike at it. :twocents:
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anyone who thinks that kings and coho will jump all over a corky and yarn combination but needs eggs to catch a steelhead is probably a snagger. the only reason you're doing well with that corky for salmon is that there's probably a couple dozen/hundred laying in the hole you're fishing, and you might get an odd bite or two but the rest are probably just running into it(given what i've witnessed over the years, guys setting the hook on line rubs and foul hooking fish).
steelhead, it's largely a matter of finding them unless they've really been pounded on. they'll hit damn near anything that gets in their face. that's why they're the greatest sport fish known to man.
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anyone who thinks that kings and coho will jump all over a corky and yarn combination but needs eggs to catch a steelhead is probably a snagger.
I'm not so sure that's true, fishing is equal parts art and science and everyone has their own ideal set of circumstances and gear that they fish the most productively. Kings I have done well using pixie spoons, eggs and jigs, I prefer to use the spoons. Silvers I do well in salt trolling (I know the area I fish very well), kings I do pretty fair trolling as well. Fishing a buzz bomb for silvers or humpies either in the lower river or salt I excel at, I'm better than average fishing for both with a dick nite too. Chums you can't beat a float+jig with a piece of prawn in the river but I've caught all species on corky and yarn. Steelhead are more condition specific in my experience, bait, lure size, leader length and weight according to water speed/clarity/temperature but I fish float+jig the most productively for them.
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Hey guys all I wanted to say was don't rule out the yarn and corkie, it can be a very effective method. I rarely ever snag salmon, or steelhead for that matter. I never use black yarn, my setup for kings in that river usually tend to be a combo of orange and chartruesse. It works very well for me and I can certainly tell you they are NOT getting flossed or snagged. My post sounded a little arrogant yesterday since I've gone back and read it, but I make no appologies as to the method I discuss. Many of the guys I mentioned fish professional tourneys and have appeared in several magazines. Even I have been in one. I just wanted to let you know that I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to the way I fish, If your method works for you great, just don't rule out one method because you may now have had success with it. I'm not a bait basher as I use eggs on occaision as well, I have been very successful using the yarn and corkie setup for most applications and thats all I wanted to communicate :twocents:
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Well said and totally agree with the previous 2 posts.
