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Title: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 11:35:17 AM
Are they the stupid gray birds that fly out of the ditch along side of a logging road and scare the crap out of me?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: grundy53 on September 14, 2010, 11:36:06 AM
Yes
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: highmuley on September 14, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
Dumb...not so dumb. They have made a fool of me more than once!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 11:41:08 AM
I can't seem to walk 50 ft in my elk spot without them giving me a heart attack.  Are they good eating or not worth the trouble?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
I can't seem to walk 50 ft in my elk spot without them giving me a heart attack.  Are they good eating or not worth the trouble?

???   WTH  You've never eaten a grouse? Are you new around here? Are you kidding? Yes they're good to eat, shoot 'em whenever you get a chance.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on September 14, 2010, 11:46:12 AM
They are one of God's most delicious creatures.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 11:49:26 AM
Best way to shoot with a bow?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: uncoolperson on September 14, 2010, 12:01:23 PM
They are one of God's most delicious creatures.
and scary.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 12:06:31 PM
And the way I read the regs say bag limit 4, posetion limit 12.  Does this mean I shoot 4, take them back to the truck and clean them, then go shoot 4 more, etc until I get to 12?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: rasbo on September 14, 2010, 12:12:11 PM
Tablefare :drool:
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: shedcrazy on September 14, 2010, 12:13:08 PM
No you can only shoot 4 a day, posession limit means if your camped out for a few days you can have a few days worth of limits.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: CP on September 14, 2010, 12:16:29 PM
And the way I read the regs say bag limit 4, posetion limit 12.  Does this mean I shoot 4, take them back to the truck and clean them, then go shoot 4 more, etc until I get to 12?

Only if you want to be fined for the last 8.  Something like 8*250. = $2,000
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 12:29:23 PM
Crap.  Long way to drive for 4 birds.  10gls gas + $10 of shot = $40 or $10 per bird.  Not gonna get the wife to sign off on that.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2010, 12:40:17 PM
I figured you were going to shoot them while you were elk hunting.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: CP on September 14, 2010, 12:41:31 PM
Send me the GPS coordinates and I’ll go get them.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Buckmark on September 14, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
Crap.  Long way to drive for 4 birds.  10gls gas + $10 of shot = $40 or $10 per bird.  Not gonna get the wife to sign off on that.
Better then comng home from elk hunting empty handed, your already there so the grouse are just a bonus.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
I figured you were going to shoot them while you were elk hunting.

That was the plan but not sure if I can bag them with a bow setup or not.  How tough would that be?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 12:50:15 PM
Also, the only game bird I have ever cooked has been duck.  I use a duck marsala recipe.  Will this work with grouse or is the bird that much different that it should be cooked a different way?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: CP on September 14, 2010, 12:52:09 PM
Grouse is like a chicken, any good chicken recipe will work for grouse.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
OK.  Thanks.  Now, do you clean the grouse in the field as soon as you shoot it or wait til you get home?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: k_rex on September 14, 2010, 12:59:22 PM
We usually clean our grouse, pheasants, etc. when we get back to camp.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: highmuley on September 14, 2010, 01:09:37 PM
More popular than chicken in my house. They are a little lean though. Have to be careful not to dry them out.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 01:27:02 PM
Field points on my arrows or find something even more blunt?  Will I need to add a 10 yard pin to my sight?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bobcat on September 14, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Also, the only game bird I have ever cooked has been duck.  I use a duck marsala recipe.  Will this work with grouse or is the bird that much different that it should be cooked a different way?

With grouse, you don't have to try to cover up the flavor, like you do with duck.  
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: teal101 on September 14, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
Judo Tips or Field tips, I'm gonna use field tips cuz I'm poor and don't wanna buy Judos.

For cooking cook them like chicken and Rice and Chicken and Dumplings.  Amazing :drool:

If ya gut one and it smells like pine needles those are better off in the trash.  As the season drags on they switch from berries to needles and begin to taste and smell like a pine tree.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
Good tip about the smell.  Thanks
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: halflife65 on September 14, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
That's funny you've never shot a grouse.  That's the very first thing me, all my cousins, all my buddies, etc. ever killed as soon as we got a license.  We have an old single shot .410 that goes with whatever new kid needs to go shoot something.  Everyone  in my family started by killing grouse with that thing - usually somewhere between 10 and 12 years old.

Anyway, this might be debatable, but the Judo points and field points usually let your arrow go right through them.  My buddy and I used the big rubber blunts and he shot one, the arrow didn't completely pass through and the damn thing flew off with it.  It only happened once, though, so I don't want to say that every time you shoot a grouse you risk an arrow.  That's probably overstating it.  I use Judo Points, though, so I can stump shoot with the same arrow when I'm walking around in the middle of the day.

When I shoot one I usually run as fast as I can to it to make sure it doesn't sort of recover and hide in the brush (just in case, they usually don't go anywhere.)
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: FC on September 14, 2010, 02:09:39 PM
What is a grouse? My lunch!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 02:10:47 PM
Can I just take an arrow and fill the screw in tip with epoxy to make it blunt?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Gutpile on September 14, 2010, 02:20:04 PM
I'm having a difficult time with this thread.

Never having shot and eaten a grouse is a little like being a virgin.

You just don't know what you missing.

I'm really really really having a hard time with this right now. LOL.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 14, 2010, 02:22:12 PM
I'm having a difficult time with this thread.

Never having shot and eaten a grouse is a little like being a virgin.

You just don't know what you missing.

I'm really really really having a hard time with this right now. LOL.

Every virgin starts somewhere.  If it's anything like my last virgin experience, I'll need to poke the grouse with an arrow at least 3 times before I find the right spot and I'll end slobbering all over it before going to sleep.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Gutpile on September 14, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
I'm having a difficult time with this thread.

Never having shot and eaten a grouse is a little like being a virgin.

You just don't know what you missing.

I'm really really really having a hard time with this right now. LOL.

Every virgin starts somewhere.  If it's anything like my last virgin experience, I'll need to poke the grouse with an arrow at least 3 times before I find the right spot and I'll end slobbering all over it before going to sleep.


 :rockin:

FUNNIER THAN HELL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: shedcrazy on September 14, 2010, 02:37:08 PM
 :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: thinkingman on September 14, 2010, 03:31:35 PM
I'm having a difficult time with this thread.

Never having shot and eaten a grouse is a little like being a virgin.

You just don't know what you missing.

I'm really really really having a hard time with this right now. LOL.
So if it smells like pine needles...?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 14, 2010, 03:38:48 PM
10gls gas + $10 of shot = $40 or $10 per bird.  ????

Grouse are great eating. Search here for some recipes.   I figure your spot is 75 miles from Shelton. I'd drive more than half that just to go Grouse hunting.

It is sporting to shoot them from the limb or ground if you're carrying a bow. I woulnd't use a broadhead.. but just sayin.

You could also shoot them with 22rimfire, (the Ruger MKII Or Browning Buckmark you carry while bow hunting Elk).

-Steve
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Curly on September 14, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
I used to drive 6 hours one way to get to a good grouse hunting spot.  And sometimes we would end up driving all day long on logging roads looking for grouse.  (Of course that was back when gas was 0.79/gal).
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: halflife65 on September 15, 2010, 07:09:31 AM
Can I just take an arrow and fill the screw in tip with epoxy to make it blunt?

No, the weight of the arrow will be all screwed up.  You need to use something that is the same weight as your broadheads (85, 100, or 125gr probably - just match what you're using.)
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: KimberRich on September 15, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Your from Shelton and don't know what a Grouse is??  I'm confused..  I thought that would have been a class in like 2nd grade in a town of Loggers!  :chuckle: 
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: MikeWalking on September 15, 2010, 04:05:09 PM
someone tried to tell me it was a long complaint around the campfire.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2010, 04:09:25 PM
Crap.  Long way to drive for 4 birds.  10gls gas + $10 of shot = $40 or $10 per bird.  Not gonna get the wife to sign off on that.

never.  NEVER and I mean NEVER EVER try to justify hunting by factoring in the cost per animal or per pound of meat. 

You will give it up.  Cheaper to buy gold or diamonds.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 15, 2010, 06:28:11 PM
Your from Shelton and don't know what a Grouse is??  I'm confused..  I thought that would have been a class in like 2nd grade in a town of Loggers!  :chuckle: 

Not from here, just live here now.  Wish I could find them here in Mason county
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: runamuk on September 15, 2010, 06:41:33 PM
there are no grouse in mason county or shelton no worries no need to look I confirmed it today after driving to my favorite spot...the grouse seem to have joined the bears and left...no idea where they all went but they are not where they were supposed to be :dunno:
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bobcat on September 15, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
never.  NEVER and I mean NEVER EVER try to justify hunting by factoring in the cost per animal or per pound of meat.  

You will give it up.  Cheaper to buy gold or diamonds.

:yeah:
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: tony04 on September 15, 2010, 06:42:01 PM
OK.  Thanks.  Now, do you clean the grouse in the field as soon as you shoot it or wait til you get home?

here's the fun part, if you dont know. to clean them, lay the bird on its back. put a foot on each wing and pull up on the feet. all your left with is the breast and the wings.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bobcat on September 15, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
there are no grouse in mason county or shelton no worries no need to look I confirmed it today after driving to my favorite spot...the grouse seem to have joined the bears and left...no idea where they all went but they are not where they were supposed to be :dunno:

Yeah, there are very few grouse this year. I've seen maybe two all summer, if I had spent as much time in the woods last summer as I did this summer, I would have seen about 300. Numbers are WAY down.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: WaTiger on September 15, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
i havent got a chance to hunt grouse yet (new to WA) but i've had some success bowhunting pheasant in the midwest with snare tips on the end of my arrows, i use the 4 inch snares with a fluflu (sp) arrow.  i also use a recurve since you gotta be able to respond fast, havent tried it with my compound yet...
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: chester on September 16, 2010, 05:07:28 AM


Not from here, just live here now.  Wish I could find them here in Mason county
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Mason county last week.roomate got one out of 6. they are definately around.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Jason on September 16, 2010, 05:30:52 AM
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Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 16, 2010, 07:00:59 AM


Not from here, just live here now.  Wish I could find them here in Mason county


Mason county last week.roomate got one out of 6. they are definately around.
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Where at?  I want to take my boys out with the .22
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: chester on September 16, 2010, 11:58:25 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Gutpile on September 17, 2010, 05:19:03 AM
Good pic Jason.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: billythekidrock on September 17, 2010, 05:52:07 AM
Are they the stupid gray birds that fly out of the ditch along side of a logging road and scare the crap out of me?


Dinner.

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Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: bighorns2bushytails on September 17, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
 ;D

--bh2bt
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Meats on September 17, 2010, 05:31:48 PM
I think this is the best troll I have ever seen on a forum.
This guy has hooked so many he's way over the limit.
Hook,line and sinker for all of you :P
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: halflife65 on September 18, 2010, 09:17:01 AM
I think this is the best troll I have ever seen on a forum.
This guy has hooked so many he's way over the limit.
Hook,line and sinker for all of you :P

 :chuckle:  I suspect you're right.  I withdraw all of my previous comments and replace with "A forest what?  How the hell do you pronounce that?"
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: DoubleJ on September 18, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
If only this were true
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: floatinghat on September 18, 2010, 11:38:56 AM


First time I read it I thought I heard a scream "get off my bridge".
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: KimberRich on October 07, 2010, 02:12:39 PM
I think this is the best troll I have ever seen on a forum.
This guy has hooked so many he's way over the limit.
Hook,line and sinker for all of you :P

Normally I would agree but were talking about Mason county here..  So I played along. 
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: lokidog on October 09, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
I would highly recommend not using target tips!  They are not immediately lethal and even with a lung pass through the bird could go a long ways away into the brush.  I once shot a quail (24 years ago) with a target arrow, the only reason I recovered it was the arrow stuck in it and cought in tree branches as it flew away.  If you don't want to use new broadhead blades, save some of the ones you have used for target shooting and use them, not super sharp but still better than a taret tip.  They are definitely yummy, there is a lot of meat on the legs so no sense in wasting that either.  IMO
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: tritt007 on November 03, 2010, 12:36:13 PM
gourmet chicken
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: phishisgroovin on November 03, 2010, 12:40:25 PM
YUMMY!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 03, 2010, 01:45:48 PM
he probably is very skilled with a sling shot and wants to know your hony holes.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: MLHSN on November 04, 2010, 12:42:56 PM
Interesting thread.  Sparked a couple questions of my own.  I've never eaten grouse before.
( http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60309.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60309.0.html) for explanation)

I'm constantly spooking them out of the bushes during my off-trail travels.  Especially on my hikes around the Wenatchee area.  I've thought about carying a pistol to start bagging a few.  I don't really want to cary a rifle when I'm just hiking.  I noticed in the regs that I can use a pistol under .24 which pretty much means a .22 LR. Does the 4" barrel rule apply to grouse?  I noticed the taurus judge fires .410 shells but I'm not really wanting to spend 400-500.  Anyone have suggestions for cheapest pistol I can use on grouse?
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 27, 2010, 02:20:51 PM
he probably is very skilled with a sling shot and wants to know your hony holes.
This is the cheapest one I have found!
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: BlackRidge on December 27, 2010, 02:57:38 PM
Interesting thread.  Sparked a couple questions of my own.  I've never eaten grouse before.
( http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60309.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,60309.0.html) for explanation)

I'm constantly spooking them out of the bushes during my off-trail travels.  Especially on my hikes around the Wenatchee area.  I've thought about carying a pistol to start bagging a few.  I don't really want to cary a rifle when I'm just hiking.  I noticed in the regs that I can use a pistol under .24 which pretty much means a .22 LR. Does the 4" barrel rule apply to grouse?  I noticed the taurus judge fires .410 shells but I'm not really wanting to spend 400-500.  Anyone have suggestions for cheapest pistol I can use on grouse?

I'd suggest the ruger 22/45, they start at around $250 new

Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 27, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
he probably is very skilled with a sling shot and wants to know your hony holes.
This is the cheapest one I have found!
Don't forget the marbles (use the standard playing type ones, they fly the best), craft solid colored ones don't fly straight.
Title: Re: What is a forest grouse?
Post by: halflife65 on December 28, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
YUMMY!


I thought only bear turds carried pistols.  I didn't know dead grouse did, too.   :chuckle:
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