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Title: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: BIGINNER on September 14, 2010, 01:09:21 PM: HI EVERYONE. I GOT A QUESTION, I GOT A CAMPER A WEEK AGO, AND WHEN I WAS GOING TOPICK IT UP, THE SELLER SAID THAT IT IS FOR A "REGULAR BED" TRUCK, WELL MY TRUCK HAS A 7' BED, BUT THE CAMPER WAS MADE FOR A LONG BED (8'). WELL I TOOK THE CAMPER ANYWAYS, AND DROVE 60 MILES BACK HOME WITH IT WITH NO PROBLEMS, WHEN I CAME HOME I NOTICED THAT THE TRUCK'S REAR END WAS A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE FRONT END, WELL SINCE THE CAMPER IS A FOOT TOO ONF FOR THE TRUCK I KIND OF GUESSED THAT IT WOULD BE SITTING THIS WAY. BUT MY QUESTION IS.. IS IT SAFE TO DRIVE THIS WAY? OR SHOULD I GET A SJORTER CAMPER OR A TRUCK WITH A LONGER BED?, (DON'T WANT TO DO EITHER ONE)
THE TRUCK IS A 96 F150 WITH AN EXTENDED CAB, 7' BED. I'LL POST THE MODEL OF CAMPER WHEN I GET HOME,

THERE IS A 12" GAP BETWEAN THE END OS THE BED AND THE BEGINING OF THE DROP-DOWN OF THE CAMPER. AND ABOUT 18" OF DROP-DOWN (ENTRY) ON THE CAMPER
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: whacker1 on September 14, 2010, 01:14:23 PM: lot of weight for a F150
The rear axle would be further back on a long bed, which would move your balance of weight a little better over the axle.
Will the truck haul it - yes
is it overloaded - depending on the weight of the camper ? maybe
you could always go through a scale empty and then with the camper on to see what you weigh.

post a picture of what it looks like with the camper loaded on the pickup.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Woodchuck on September 14, 2010, 01:15:35 PM: what he said, that thing should slide all the way forward in the bed
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: GoldTip on September 14, 2010, 01:31:05 PM: Well, I'll start with that I've never heard of a 7' bed on any truck, they are usually 8' box, or a short box which is 6 1/2'. Some beds are even shorter than 6 1/2'. But if you got a 7 footer thats a new one on me, but hell it's a Ford so they could have done anything. What you got sounds like a 9 1/2' camper, which yeah, is really more weight than should be carried with a 1/2ton truck imho. Those 9 1/2 footers are really better suited to a 3/4 ton truck, unless your camper model is designed to a super light or something. Thats quite a bit of weight and possitioning of weight on the axle for your truck.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: sako223 on September 14, 2010, 02:25:47 PM: If I remember correctly my Ford Ext cab 150 about that year had a warning when new against carrying a camper.
It may exceed the GVWR dry let alone loaded.
This could easily exceed your axle rating and braking ability. Wind and cornering are another problem. Air bag suspension can help a lot here but still makes the other points a weak link.
I know of one guy who did it anyway on a 2000 model and broke the frame. He had it welded then sold it.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: NRA4LIFE on September 14, 2010, 02:41:44 PM: Like above, that sounds like a 9.5'. Those can be 2300 lbs or better dry weight. Too much already for that truck.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Bofire on September 14, 2010, 02:45:59 PM: :) If you are willing to drive about 35, change wheel bearings, brakes and shocks alot, and probably get written up, you got your selfa deal :)
Carl
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Buckmark on September 14, 2010, 02:51:07 PM: Please take a pic of the front of your truck with the camper on, so i know what you look like in my rear view mirror and i can move out of the way... :chuckle:
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 14, 2010, 02:54:46 PM: I had a 9.5 with extended cab over for my F-350 PS. It didn't squat it alot but, rock and rolled around a lot. I'd be hesitant to drive very fast with that big of a camper on a 1/2 ton. If your trips aren't too long and don't hit much freeway / 70mph speeds I wouldn't worry a lot. If you're driving long hauls in the summer and attempt a freeway speed, you'll definately be overheating not only your engine but, tranny, brakes, wheelbearings and rear end.

I don't know of any 9.5' campers that aren't meant for a beefed up 3/4 ton or stock 1 ton. Usually, the older they are, the heavier they are too?

I'm not an expert but, it sounds like a lot. I'd just want to make sure its safe for you and your family/friends.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: fishcrazy on September 14, 2010, 03:00:44 PM: Sounds like the sales person sold you a camper they shouldn't have. They should have asked you what you were planning on putting it on and advised you against it.

Air bags are a huge help and cheap and easy to install.

Kris
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: 6x6in6 on September 14, 2010, 04:35:00 PM: Chances are pretty good that the camper was designed and built to be installed in an 8' bed truck. Some are built to go both in short and long bed trucks.
You should make sure that yours is one of the both way models. If not, the way the boxes are built, the load carrying capacities are designed for primary support around the perimeter of the box of the camper with the rear of the box reinforced at the 7'9" mark from the front of the box measured to the rear for a long bed model. Effectively, with your bed length, you have no primary support for the structural rear of the camper. And, if it's older and wood framed, who knows if there's any rot that has weakened the structural carry capacity too.

I'd get a long bed pickup or return the camper for a short bed model if it is not a universal type to go in short or long bed trucks.

The other thing to consider is the load rating of the tires presently on your 150. You can slap air bags on it but if your running a C rated tire, or even a D rated tire possibly, you probably have exceeded the max load of that tire and a blow-out could be in your future. Not to mention the load carrying capacity of your axle, etc that you just made all better with some air bags possibly.

Just my .02 from someone who packs a 4800#+ camper.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: brush hunter on September 14, 2010, 05:35:17 PM: Quote from: whacker1 on September 14, 2010, 01:14:23 PM
lot of weight for a F150

you could always go through a scale empty and then with the camper on to see what you weigh.

Don't go to a DOT scale, we all know your over weight, and they will ticket you.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: whacker1 on September 14, 2010, 06:17:09 PM: Quote from: brush hunter on September 14, 2010, 05:35:17 PM
Quote from: whacker1 on September 14, 2010, 01:14:23 PM
lot of weight for a F150

you could always go through a scale empty and then with the camper on to see what you weigh.

Don't go to a DOT scale, we all know your over weight, and they will ticket you.

sorry, yes you can go through the scale at the dump or transfer station
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Jamieb on September 14, 2010, 07:04:37 PM: A 9 1/2 footer in a 1/2 ton?
I haul a 9 1/2 foot camper in my Ram 2500 with 1 ton springs under it and my head lights point a little high .
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv376%2Felkhunter%2Fcamperloadedup.jpg&hash=ce1d47c9ed207629adb503fec98b087398b8f160)
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: brush hunter on September 14, 2010, 07:06:34 PM: Nice truck and camper
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Special T on September 17, 2010, 12:03:27 PM: BTW you only have to go over a DOT scale if your a comercial rig... And that is if your GVWR is 16k or more.. I however agree its a bad idea to go over them.. They are the governers ATM. :bash:
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: quacker whacker on September 17, 2010, 12:53:07 PM: put your camper on your truck, fill all tanks (truck fuel, camper H2o, propane, etc.), put everything you would take camping into the camper then go to the scales and get weighed. Then look at the door sticker on the drivers door and get the GVWR # and that will tell you how much over weight you are.
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Special T on September 17, 2010, 04:17:12 PM: WQ i like the way you said that..."It will tell you how overweight you ARE!"
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: 6x6in6 on September 17, 2010, 04:27:26 PM: It's also good information to have so you know why your insurance company will deny you coverage if something bad happens.
Saves asking the question "why was I denied coverage?"
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: 400out on September 17, 2010, 07:56:47 PM: OK to start off if your from pasco you go out to the south bound state scale on 395 north of king city later in the afternoon most of the time it's not open and you used to be able to see the scale through the window, as for you weight you should be able to find the weight of you truck with out taking the camper off if anything call ford they will be able to give you a real close number.Now get yourself a pair of air bags for the rear that should take care of the slouching rear, if you really don't like it and you got it for a decent price clean it up and roll it and look for a shorter/lighter one there's lots out there. :twocents:
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: BIGINNER on September 18, 2010, 06:51:36 PM: well. the camper weighs 2700 lbs. and the truck is a half ton truck,... so i'm guessing i'm way averweight. lol.. so... i'm gonna get a new truck :) a 3/4 ton, but i'm not keeping the camper either, gonna fix it up and sell it. i got it for fffree so i got nothing to lose.

i wanna get a trailer anyways, or an rv. :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: HntnFsh on September 18, 2010, 08:16:18 PM: Or,heres a nice camper that should fit your truck properly.Looks very clean inside.
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=3297751#post3297751 (http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=3297751#post3297751)
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: 400out on September 18, 2010, 08:53:56 PM: Dude look at the camper that huntnfish posted for you! looks nice the bathroom is great for the ladies and if they aren't going hunting its a great place for boots and guns!
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Blacklab on September 19, 2010, 08:33:59 AM: Nice lookin trailer somebody will enjoy it ;)
Title: Re: SLIDE-IN TRUCK CAMPER QUESTION
Post by: Mike_D on September 20, 2010, 03:14:20 PM: sounds waay to heavy... I have a 8 1/2 foot S&S camper on a 3/4 ton dodge with Airbags, and its a good size load. go to the scales when they are CLOSED, the SP normally face the scale readout to the window to encourage motorists with boats and trailers to weight without issue.