Post by: Outfitter on March 18, 2008, 10:41:05 PM
Post by: coonhunter on March 19, 2008, 04:24:03 AM
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Post by: Outfitter on March 19, 2008, 09:14:17 AM
Post by: boneaddict on March 19, 2008, 10:07:11 AM
Post by: tlbradford on March 19, 2008, 10:19:44 AM
Post by: Outfitter on March 19, 2008, 11:05:09 AM
Post by: Krusty on March 19, 2008, 12:14:51 PM
It was nice talking with you on the phone, thanks. :)
We're pretty much loaded up, and really looking forward to a few good days. :drool:
See ya Friday!
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Post by: actionshooter on March 19, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
I hope a few guys can put a dent in the yote population!
Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2008, 10:15:53 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on March 19, 2008, 10:19:31 PM
I'd like to see some pictures from teh guys who go too!! Good luck.
Post by: Krusty on March 20, 2008, 01:12:17 PM
You might be amazed by the numbers it takes to put an actual dent in well established coyote populations.
Government studies have shown it takes around a 75% reduction in numbers, over a three to five year period, to significantly lower overall population numbers.
And then it requires maintainence to keep the population from rebounding (often driven by an influx of coyotes from neighboring properties/areas), in just a year or two.
In places like Wyoming, The Dakotas, Montana, Nevada, and other states, where Wool Growers, and Cattlemens Assoc. (and the like) empower "scorched Earth" policies and huge ADC programs, this is only accomplished through a multi-pronged approach.
Hunting (both, from the ground, and more importantly from the air), trapping, denning (removal of parents and pups, by tolling dogs, traps, poisoning/gassing and/or digging up, etc.), and other methods, are all employed.
And this is done by County and Statewide programs, on a full time basis.
The best I can hope to do (right now) is approach it from a single front, ground hunting, and work from there (and as a licensed trapper and Nuisance Wildlife Control Operator, I might be able to provide additional assistance down the road).
We do have the advantage of hunting ahead of pup rearing, but I doubt we beat it by much (and that will remain to be seen).
Jackalope,
I'm a half hour or more west of you. ;)
I'm willing to put in the drive time, for a few reasons...
One, like you say, it's gonna be fun! :chuckle:
Two, it's a huge opportunity, I try to never ever turn down a chance to get on some private land, and try to call predators were nobody else has lately.
Three, and most important of all to me, Joe asked. :)
As a hunter and a trapper I feel it's my responsibility to help (a landowner or property manager, with a wildlife problem), when and if I can.
Turns out I had the time set aside to do this very thing, and the trip was postponed (because of the flu, at our planned destination), Joe saved our trip, and a couple hours of driving.
Permission to pick up a shed or two, that's the "cherry on top".
Wastickslinger,
If you mean Kansas City, that indeed is way, way, too bad. (*I spent some time there, and didn't much like the place)
Guys,
This is a perfect example of why we need a Washington State Predator Callers Assoc.
To have a network of hunters, available to assist landowners and land/game managers, would be an asset to all concerned.
To go a step further and have that organization work hand in hand with the hound hunting, and trapping communities/associations would only further strengthen all of our steadily more tenuous positions.
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Post by: jackelope on March 20, 2008, 03:21:47 PM
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Jackalope,
I'm a half hour or more west of you.
I'm willing to put in the drive time, for a few reasons...
thanks for the input, krusty. if i had the time, i would go...but i don't.
Post by: Houndhunter on March 20, 2008, 06:25:36 PM
hows the trappin season been krusty, get any real money makers?
Post by: Outfitter on March 20, 2008, 11:05:52 PM
Post by: DeKuma on March 22, 2008, 06:00:46 AM
Yotes have not been too bad there yet, but we will try to get a couple when I am there.
Would love to come over and help exterminate with some real calling pro's. I could certainly learn a thing or two!
Post by: Outfitter on March 22, 2008, 12:49:53 PM
Post by: Outfitter on March 22, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
Post by: Krusty on March 24, 2008, 08:38:41 PM
"once again, so nice to live 5 frickin hours away."
And thanks for your input too. :)
I just meant to point out that five hours isn't that bad, I'm sorry if it came out any other way.
It's too bad, you didn't have the time.
Houndhunter,
Nope, I kinda put the jinx on myself, I told a couple different taxidermists "sure I can get you a few of those", and then did really poorly this year (a far as "spectacular catches").
I didn't think Michelle would want the "bobcoon".
DeKuma,
I'd love to go calling with some real pro's myself. (*I certainly don't consider myself one)
Joe,
A game cam is a wonderous thing... I wish I had the ability to sit quietly, in the snow, for days on end. :)
If I had to guess, I'd say I shot the small female, in the top left corner corner of the Wildcam pic, but I dunno for sure.
And it was the worst looking live coyote I have ever personally laid eyes on, and if she weighed 15 pounds I'd be shocked, I am absolutely sure she was sick (*carrying her into the trees bothered me, and I cleaned my hands with an alcohol wipe afterwards).
All her guard hair was missing, save for a few scattered along her back, and what fur was left was matted and SMELLY!
If I hadn't seen her walk up, I'd have sworn she was dead for a week!
She was so small, that when I ranged her with my scope she was 300 yards out, but after the second shot (not held over) she lasered to only 150!
The bullet impacting beyond her, or the echo off the far canyon wall, sent her my way (20 yards or so), where she was stopped for the shot.
Oh, in case anyone's wondering... a Federal 150gr SP, in .308, is NOT fur friendly! :o
But it does make them dead, which was the whole point!
She had full up ADD, too, she would be coming, then she'd check up pounce for a mouse, look up and remember she was coming to the call.
It took nearly three minutes for her to close the last 100 yards (that she did), and come out of the deep grass.
She was really pissin' me off!
The up side is... she was just about to have her first birthday, and begin her career as a mother, welping some 30 to 40 pups (or more) over the next 5 or 6 years, that beats taking out an old dog coyote any time!
I sorta feel like we were playing against a stacked deck, here.
Right off, it was the Full Moon... the three days before and after are hard (coyotes use that time for night hunting).
Cold calling sparsely scouted ground is always tough, and the "verticality" of the land didn't help at all, and the weather joined in to make it durn near miserable.
The wind never did let up.
Sunday pushed us to the edge of exposure, we were all the way up top, back by the highest draw, past the electric fence line, and a freezing rain/sleet blew all the way back to the truck.
If the wind is blowing so hard you can't hold your rifle still... what happens to your bullet? :chuckle:
(*How far will a .222 drift, at 340 yards, in a 30 mph wind?
Answer... just a little too far! :'( )
There's not any active dens that we found on your place, but we found several in adjacent (or nearby) properties (with a range of over ten square miles, your coyotes aren't just yours), and a couple of last year's dens on or near you (there's one on the grassy knoll, just over the fence, on the first ridge above the end of the road. And another up by the highest draw).
We had one coyote display classic denning behavior, ignoring calling, fidgeting, and looking back, and generally non-committal.
She just wasn't buying it.
It's like trying to call Toms in July...
And an amazing amount of snow melted just this weekend, and this has pushed the coyotes up to the fields, mousing, and digging up rodents.
We never did make any stands down in the creek bottom, every time we called anywhere on the front side, the dogs down below went nuts.
Twelve barking dogs don't help at all. :dunno:
700 acres seems like a big place, but considering a calling stand can cover a square mile (in optimal conditions), that doesn't afford much calling (though we did make hour long stands, hoping to see a 'cat).
We got "blown off" the top both days, or would have doubled the amount of stands called.
DESPITE ALL THAT:
I had a pretty good time!
I thoroughly enjoyed meeting Jody & Joe, I found a nice fork muley shed (on the fence trail), I killed a coyote, and I didn't have to do chores or nothin' all weekend!
Thanks Joe!
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Post by: ShirtGuy77 on April 13, 2008, 02:25:33 PM
Post by: boneaddict on April 13, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
Post by: Krusty on April 14, 2008, 12:20:53 AM
I wrote the trip report as soon as I got back. :)
"I was planning on going over but heard you were going, figurd you didn't need my company."
That's a shame, while I might not have needed your company, it might have been nice. ;)
Things tend to go a lot better, in person, than they do online.
So you'd have been more than welcome.
Please, don't miss out on another hunt, on my account, eh? 8)
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Post by: Coasthunterjay on April 14, 2008, 06:52:15 AM
weres the picture of the deer horns joe?? The ones from the mantle?
Post by: RJones620 on May 26, 2011, 07:23:08 AM
- Ryan
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