Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 09:14:21 AM
Post by: Machias on September 21, 2010, 10:03:32 AM
Post by: FC on September 21, 2010, 11:01:06 AM
Post by: CP on September 21, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
The text is:
... it is unlawful to participate (hunt) in a muzzleloading hunting season using a firearm that does not meet the following specifications for a muzzleloader. …
A modern handgun may be carried for personal protection. Modern handguns cannot be used to hunt big game or dispatch wounded big game during a big game hunting season for muzzleloading firearms.
If you got cited a good lawyer could probably get you off but it isn’t worth the bother.
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 11:51:03 AM
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 11:53:07 AM
Post by: bobcat on September 21, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
Post by: bobcat on September 21, 2010, 11:55:24 AM
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 11:56:47 AM
Post by: BlackRidge on September 21, 2010, 11:58:48 AM
Oh, and the handgun for protection can be concealed or not, it doesn't matter. You're legal either way. Open carry is always legal in this state, and while recreating in the outdoors you can carry a concealed weapon, no permit required.
Yup, its once you leave the recreational area that open-carry may get you in trouble with the 5-0. Even though its legal in WA, law enforcement has never been given a clear stance on it
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
Post by: Curly on September 21, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
Are you talking about carrying it in your vehicle or on your person while out hunting? If in the vehicle it's fine. You're not wanting to walk around carrying a muzzleloader for deer and elk, and a rifle or shotgun for grouse are you ???
It may be fine to have a rifle or shotgun in the vehicle, but I bet a warden will ask you 20 questions and may even write you up. I'd leave the shotgun and .22 rifle at home...... :twocents: Carry a .357 or whatever for personal protection, but leave the .22 pistol at home too... :twocents: There's my 4 cents worth.
Post by: bobcat on September 21, 2010, 02:09:20 PM
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 03:17:31 PM
Post by: J Snow73 on September 21, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Post by: Forrestrover on September 21, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 21, 2010, 10:25:34 PM
Post by: grundy53 on September 21, 2010, 11:10:39 PM
Are you talking about carrying it in your vehicle or on your person while out hunting? If in the vehicle it's fine. You're not wanting to walk around carrying a muzzleloader for deer and elk, and a rifle or shotgun for grouse are you ???
It may be fine to have a rifle or shotgun in the vehicle, but I bet a warden will ask you 20 questions and may even write you up. I'd leave the shotgun and .22 rifle at home...... :twocents: Carry a .357 or whatever for personal protection, but leave the .22 pistol at home too... :twocents: There's my 4 cents worth.
what would they write you up for? your not breaking any laws.besides we have a little thing called the second amendment. I always have a 20 gauge in my truck from September 1 - December 31.
Post by: FC on September 21, 2010, 11:21:14 PM
I really can't believe how many are confused by this...
Post by: ML_Hunter on September 21, 2010, 11:28:59 PM
I really can't believe how many are confused by this...
I can not believe how many WDFW officials are confused by this!! I've called WDFW several times to have this cleared up. lol. To me a wile to get a straight answer as well.
Post by: FC on September 21, 2010, 11:50:30 PM
I can not believe how many WDFW officials are confused by this!! I've called WDFW several times to have this cleared up. lol. To me a wile to get a straight answer as well.
That doesn't shock me a bit.
Post by: Curly on September 22, 2010, 07:17:57 AM
You certainly wouldn't be violating any of the rules by using a 22 or a shotgun to shoot grouse while out for deer/elk during muzzie season, if you actually SHOT a deer or elk with your 22 or shotgun you would be in it pretty deep if caught. So as long as you are just carrying it for the small game you are fine.
I really can't believe how many are confused by this...
I know it sounds ridiculous but they could write you up for hunting with an illegal firearm.......and tell you to go argue it in court. Just like when someone last year asked the WDFW about the legality of having his brother hunt bears with him (w/ a rifle) while he was archery deer hunting. They told him they better hunt separately or risk being written up for hunting deer with a rifle during archery season. It's stories like that, that would make me not want to even have anything that they could question me about. It seems like they will write a person up without any evidence from the stories I've heard........ ???
Besides, I agree w/ Bobcat......I don't want to be shooting grouse while out deer hunting. (Although, I did shoot a grouse once w/ the .54 ML about 20 yrs ago after hiking around all day deer hunting. (But I was done deer hunting by then and needed to unload the ML for the trip home anyway, so what better place to unload it than into a grouse head...? :) )
Post by: Forrestrover on September 22, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
When I'm hunting deer or elk the last thing I want to do is be shooting at grouse with anything. :dunno:
Me too, but for some reason, I feel like I should have the option! ;)
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on November 05, 2010, 11:12:24 AM
I carry a modern shotgun in my vehicle just in case I see Turkey, but I have always wanted to pack it up the hill with it slung across my back (yes, while carrying my muzzlelaoder for deer) because I always see Turkey up on top of the hill I hunt. If I'm just carrying the shotgun I see deer. If I'm just carrying the muzzleloader I see Turkey. Go figure.
They need to allow us muzzle hunters to shoot turkey with our muzzleloading rifles during these overlaps!