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Title: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Green Horn on September 26, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
I see camo guns everywhere. Are they really worth it? I'm trying to see the benefit of a gun with camo print. I can't bring myself to spend the extra $100.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: jordano on September 26, 2010, 03:02:00 PM
hey you really don't NEED to... but if you want to, that's a totally different thing....
but you really shouldn't spend the money if you don't have it or should spend it on other things like decoys or something...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: 270Shooter on September 26, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
I dont have one. Black works just fine as long as it doesn't shine
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Dustin07 on September 26, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
if your gun isn't camo you won't get as many ducks.  It's just the way it is, sorry  :bdid:







 :P
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: jordano on September 26, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
if your gun isn't camo you won't get as many ducks.  It's just the way it is, sorry  :bdid:







 :P
:chuckle:   :chuckle:   :chuckle:

Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: rasbo on September 26, 2010, 04:06:20 PM
I see camo guns everywhere. Are they really worth it? I'm trying to see the benefit of a gun with camo print. I can't bring myself to spend the extra $100.
I wont own another one..I set it down one day and still cant find it :yike: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: predatorpro on September 26, 2010, 04:14:02 PM
I see camo guns everywhere. Are they really worth it? I'm trying to see the benefit of a gun with camo print. I can't bring myself to spend the extra $100.
I wont own another one..I set it down one day and still cant find it :yike: :chuckle:
hey i think you left it at that one place
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: rasbo on September 26, 2010, 04:16:49 PM
I see camo guns everywhere. Are they really worth it? I'm trying to see the benefit of a gun with camo print. I can't bring myself to spend the extra $100.
I wont own another one..I set it down one day and still cant find it :yike: :chuckle:
hey i think you left it at that one place
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Dustin07 on September 26, 2010, 04:36:25 PM
the nice thing is I have a mossy 835 with the 'woodland' camo. it's basically a rattle can paint job. It's 11 years old this year, my daily shooter. it was before they really went hardcore with the cornstock and more detailed camo jobs. I got it at wholesale so no price complaints.. and since it really is just a sprayed on camo job, if it gets scratched or anything it's easy for me to touch up.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Meats on September 26, 2010, 05:13:49 PM
I think the best benifit from the modern camo is they are "dipped" and not painted.The camo film is extra protection from the elements like salt water.
I know its much cheaper to buy the factory camo than to have one dipped at a later time.

Is the camo needed.....................nope.Guys killed birds forever with brightly blued guns.
Is the extra protection worth it.......................yep and they look nice also.
You already bought camo head to toe so why not have a gun thats camo as well.Its one less thing to worry about flairing birds if shine could be an issue.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: General Disarray on September 26, 2010, 05:17:17 PM
Camo guns suck, barrel stickers don't show up nearly as well as they do on a black gun!!!
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 26, 2010, 05:18:26 PM
my bps has a nice camo on it and the texture of the stock makes it easy to grip. Is camo needed to kill birds, no.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 26, 2010, 05:30:30 PM
You really don't need a camo gun.  They just look cool.  Maybe it helps for turkey.  I didn't own a camo gun until 1998.  I did just as well back then as I do now.  Several of my shotguns camo is wearing off and they now look pretty bad.  The main reason I get them coated or in camo is to help keep the rust down.  It help protect the components way better.  If you hunt salt you can start to see rust before you get back to the boat launch otherwise.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Bob33 on September 26, 2010, 05:54:13 PM
A couple cans of camo spray paint, some leaves or twigs for a template, and you can do it yourself.
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Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: 270Shooter on September 26, 2010, 08:38:17 PM
Camo guns suck, barrel stickers don't show up nearly as well as they do on a black gun!!!
hell yeah
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Crispy on September 26, 2010, 09:47:15 PM
I bought a Nova in camo and I'm glad I did because I always wanted one. When it starts getting worn down I can just touch it up with some spray paint and call it good.  :IBCOOL:

I'll probably never buy another as I don't really think it's worth the extra money, though.  :twocents:
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Post by: KeeKeeBlamo on September 26, 2010, 10:06:32 PM
Follow Bob 33's instructions and use duracoat and it's really protective.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: jordano on September 26, 2010, 10:37:37 PM
I bought a Nova in camo and I'm glad I did because I always wanted one.

 :IBCOOL:
same here! I love it so far!
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Green Horn on September 27, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
I was thinking about spraying my winchester pump but I'm worried about getting paint in the action and screwing everything up. Any advice bob33?
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2010, 10:48:14 AM
Personally I appreciate good wood. 
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: PolarBear on September 27, 2010, 10:59:39 AM
That's what she said!
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Dadbear on September 27, 2010, 11:30:55 AM
Remington 870 in matte black. If that won't solve it for ya', get a $3.95 roll of camo gun/bow tape.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: SnowDog on September 27, 2010, 11:34:18 AM
Remington 870 in matte black. If that won't solve it for ya', get a $3.95 roll of camo gun/bow tape.  :twocents:

The Camo tape works well, just make sure you don't get it soaked w/ saltwater and let it sit. Don't ask how I know this ;(
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Mr56Jeep on September 27, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
Its all about the protection from the salt to me. 

Camo auto loading duck gun.  :IBCOOL:

Blue and wood O/U for the upland   :IBCOOL:


 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: teal101 on September 27, 2010, 11:54:48 AM
Keeps the rust down.  The only reason I got my SBEII camo.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: cummingsa on September 27, 2010, 04:19:17 PM
Have had an 870 express for a decade now, used it for waterfowl last year and beat it up bad.  Grabbing the wood with saltwater soaked gloves did not do it any favors.   Bought an 887, and although I am not completely sold on the gun, I do like the coating process used.  The camo seems a bit bright, but the protection offered is nice.  If you do not wipe off your gun ass soon as you walk in the door, it will not immediately rust.  Just my 2 :twocents:.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 27, 2010, 04:29:02 PM
They have the snake skins that you can put over your gun and use the hair dry to shrink on.  If your going to paint it. Tape up the parts you don't want sprayed.  You can also send in the gun for about $150 and have it dipped.  You can also sell it and pick up a Benelli Nova or a camo'ed gun.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Malardman on September 30, 2010, 06:30:05 PM
I love a beautiful blued shotgun, and have plenty of them, Just got sick of seeing the rust build on them in a matter of minutes, Got my Franchi I12 max-4 camo,now the only thing that rusts is the trigger and the bolt, I don't know many people that use it but they make stuff called RUST-GUARDIT it puts a wax coat on the gun works great and sprays on, The other thing about camo guns other people think your way to into hunting, and I LOVE IT! :drool:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: snocohunter on October 02, 2010, 07:07:48 AM
I bought my SX3 in camo because of the duratouch finish. That's the only reason. Ducks obviously don't care. I have to say i'm now finding myself wanting a nice blued gun with wood stocks. Next purchase.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: D-Rock425 on October 03, 2010, 10:59:02 AM
I got a black 1187 2 years ago and have killed a lot of ducks with it.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Dustin07 on October 03, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
I've hunted in so many different scenarios I just can't see myself using anything but a painted or dipped gun in the salt, but then, I've been using the same gun for 11 years now because I can't get myself to take any other guns out in the rough duck environments. I would use a nicer shotgun, no camo'd for things like upland bird hunting. Pheasant, quail, grouse, etc. Where it's less likely to be raining and I'm not dropping the gun in a boat, or banging it against rocks or anything. Like was mentioned before, after 10+ years of service, it's nice to be able to 'touch up' trouble spots on a painted gun. keep it protected, keep the rust out, etc.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Svtrc51 on October 03, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
 :yeah:
I've hunted in so many different scenarios I just can't see myself using anything but a painted or dipped gun in the salt, but then, I've been using the same gun for 11 years now because I can't get myself to take any other guns out in the rough duck environments. I would use a nicer shotgun, no camo'd for things like upland bird hunting. Pheasant, quail, grouse, etc. Where it's less likely to be raining and I'm not dropping the gun in a boat, or banging it against rocks or anything. Like was mentioned before, after 10+ years of service, it's nice to be able to 'touch up' trouble spots on a painted gun. keep it protected, keep the rust out, etc.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 03, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
I've hunted in so many different scenarios I just can't see myself using anything but a painted or dipped gun in the salt, but then, I've been using the same gun for 11 years now because I can't get myself to take any other guns out in the rough duck environments. I would use a nicer shotgun, no camo'd for things like upland bird hunting. Pheasant, quail, grouse, etc. Where it's less likely to be raining and I'm not dropping the gun in a boat, or banging it against rocks or anything. Like was mentioned before, after 10+ years of service, it's nice to be able to 'touch up' trouble spots on a painted gun. keep it protected, keep the rust out, etc.
I wish my duck gun would last 10+ years.  My Benelli SBEII last about 4 years before I had to send it back to the factory to have new guts put into it.  My Browning BPS seem to last the longest.  I recently sold it, and replaced it with a new one for memory sake.  I had a 870 that finally bit the dust as well.  That one got recycled.  If you waterfowl hard core, it eats guns.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Ragged Outdoors on October 10, 2010, 08:45:02 PM
For us the benefit isn't so much the camo aspect as it is a layer of protection from salt water, mud, etc. Blued steel rusts incredibly fast out on the tidal areas so it definitely helps with that. The dipping does have a life span though. We just had our guns dipped by Scott at NW Hydroprint. He's in Montesano and does a great job for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: CP on October 11, 2010, 12:06:06 PM
I shoot trap with a camo autoloader, much to the distain of the ported barrel Krieghoff shooters on my right.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Crispy on October 11, 2010, 07:37:49 PM
I shoot trap with a camo autoloader, much to the distain of the ported barrel Krieghoff shooters on my right.

Gotta love out-shooting the expensive trap guns at the range with a scratched up camo waterfowling gun  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: chester on October 11, 2010, 07:54:29 PM
I have a camo BPS and i dont think i will own another waterfowl gun that doesnt. Upkeep is alot easier then on my mossberg (i hunt mostly salt)
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: ser300wsm on October 11, 2010, 07:54:45 PM
 8) I have a bennellii nova and it is parkerized camo. I like it because it helps with the wet weather we experience here. Do you need one in camo ? No but it helps. Is it worth the money, me personally yes.
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Post by: 400out on October 11, 2010, 08:01:21 PM
I have hunted with my black gun over my shoulder while honding a wind duck in the air so it would spin and killed duck  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Meats on October 12, 2010, 10:07:36 PM
I think the best benifit from the modern camo is they are "dipped" and not painted.The camo film is extra protection from the elements like salt water.
I know its much cheaper to buy the factory camo than to have one dipped at a later time.

Is the camo needed.....................nope.Guys killed birds forever with brightly blued guns.
Is the extra protection worth it.......................yep and they look nice also.
You already bought camo head to toe so why not have a gun thats camo as well.Its one less thing to worry about flairing birds if shine could be an issue.

This is true, unless you buy your own dip kit.  ASAT camo is my favorite all around camo pattern (stands for All Season All Terrain), and they make a dip kit that's not to expensive.  A non-dipped gun'll rust MUCH easier.

It cost an extra $100 to buy a gun dipped.Not worth my time or trouble to do it myself.
In the time it takes to buy the kit,disassemble the gun,prep the gun,dip the gun,re assemble the gun I could have made four to five hundred bucks  :P
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 15, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
You're spending that much on a gun... May as well get one that has a little extra protection on it.

Not to say that some parts won't rust.  Make sure you don't take it for granted.  ESPECIALLY if you go out in the salt
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: whitey on October 16, 2010, 12:13:03 PM
I hunt with a Ruger Red Label Satin Stainless and it seems to kill just as many ducks as the ugly guns..By the time the little basters see it its all over but the crying.. :yike:
Well there isnt a bunch of cryin any ways.. :dunno:
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: Dustin07 on October 18, 2010, 12:56:40 PM
I've hunted in so many different scenarios I just can't see myself using anything but a painted or dipped gun in the salt, but then, I've been using the same gun for 11 years now because I can't get myself to take any other guns out in the rough duck environments. I would use a nicer shotgun, no camo'd for things like upland bird hunting. Pheasant, quail, grouse, etc. Where it's less likely to be raining and I'm not dropping the gun in a boat, or banging it against rocks or anything. Like was mentioned before, after 10+ years of service, it's nice to be able to 'touch up' trouble spots on a painted gun. keep it protected, keep the rust out, etc.
I wish my duck gun would last 10+ years.  My Benelli SBEII last about 4 years before I had to send it back to the factory to have new guts put into it.  My Browning BPS seem to last the longest.  I recently sold it, and replaced it with a new one for memory sake.  I had a 870 that finally bit the dust as well.  That one got recycled.  If you waterfowl hard core, it eats guns.

everyone I know that has had a BPS really seems to like them.

I've never had a quality issue with any of my mossbergs though.
Title: Re: Camo gun...really?
Post by: YoungBuck on October 27, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
I dont have one. Black works just fine as long as it doesn't shine

I agree. The biggest benifit to a camo gun is they dont rust as easy.
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