Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 29, 2010, 11:57:33 AM
who's back packing for rifle deer season?
curious on pack weights again. mine's packed and ready to go, I'm sure I'll re-do 4 or 5 times but it's pretty set.
I'm at 30lbs not counting ammo, gun, binocs. Loaded for roughly 5 days w/ 2 liters of water.
I'm pretty happy with 30lbs, maybe I'll throw some more food in or a book or two.
(wastickslinger, before you reply, I'm talking on your back, not your mules :chuckle:)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 29, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on September 29, 2010, 12:15:54 PM
Post by: bigdave on September 29, 2010, 12:16:06 PM
30 lbs by the way sounds really reasonable for that length of trip.
:twocents:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 29, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Post by: coachcw on September 29, 2010, 01:25:48 PM
Post by: chevysquid on September 29, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 29, 2010, 02:10:45 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 29, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 29, 2010, 02:53:40 PM
I had 46 lbs but, the only real difference between this and what I have now is, no bowhunting accessories and a little warmer clothing.
I've put a lot of stuff to the test over the years and I feel good now about having enough but not too much.
pack
tent
sleeping bag
sleeping pad
hyd. Bladder
stove
fuel
rope
matches
lighter
fire starter
potable aqua
ibuprofen
band aids
black tape
leatherman
headlight
flashlight
spork
pan
coffe cup
garbage bags
ziploc bags
batteries
maps
camera
water bottle
cheap poncho
book or game
spare glasses
bug wipes
soap
deodorant
sm sewing kit
FOOD & DRINK
instant coffee
mountain house
top ramen
granola bars
clif bars
idahoan spuds
oatmeal
other snacks
jerky
squincher
drink powder
dry bacon
foil
butter
salt & pepper
whiskey
water
BOW HUNTING
bow
arrows
broadheads
allen wrenches
extra cable slide
game bags
nocks
field pts
extra b-heads
extra arrows
extra peep
tubing
binocs
rangefinder
batteries
rope
extra pants
extra shirt
fleece jkt
wind checker
tags
license
knife
bone saw
calls
target ???
sharpener
glass cleaner
game bags
garbage bag
extra whisk bisc.
extra release
wax
extra sight pin
serving
light gloves
facemask
scent away
extra sight pin
CLOTHES
pants
short sleev t-shirt
long sleev t-shirt
fleece jacket
rain coat
socks
underwear
beanie
boots
here's a pic of me and my old man with this gear plus a little buck split between the two of us.
Badlands 2800 is just barely big enough.
Post by: wastickslinger on September 29, 2010, 03:07:47 PM
Post by: haugenna on September 29, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 29, 2010, 03:57:06 PM
30lbs sounds light, especially for general season where you need heavier clothes. :dunno: If it works for you though then you are doing something right.
that's part of the key, not heavier clothes, better clothes.
light layers.
Post by: wilsongideon on September 29, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 29, 2010, 08:56:37 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on September 30, 2010, 10:45:21 AM
I usualy step off with right about 50#, but that is everything but the clothes I have on. If I'm carying it, and I dont carry it every day in my daily life, then its counted in the weight.
I guess your probably not too much lighter though considering a 9# rifle and 2# bino's. That would have you at just over 40#'s.
Post by: haugenna on September 30, 2010, 10:58:39 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 30, 2010, 12:34:29 PM
50-55lbs is where I like to be. That is including gun, binos, spotter, ammo, etc. If it is going on my back or in my pack it is considered packed weight. 30lbs plus 8lb rifle and 2lb binocs and 1-2lbs for ammo puts you at around 42 lbs.
I only count the stuff in my pack because there's not much that can be done to lighten the rifle, ammo, binocs...
my pack, tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, water, food, stove and fuel weigh 23lbs. everything else is real light.
How much weight in food do you all bring? I packed for 2200 calories. for a 7 day hunt I might pack for 2500 calories a day.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 30, 2010, 12:43:14 PM
Man I'm at 80lbs for a 6 night elk muzzy hunt. looks like Iv got some work to do
I've done the 80lbs thing, it's do-able if you aren't hutnting with it on but I will most likely have my pack on most of everyday.
80lbs would tear my knees apart, especially if I killed something.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 30, 2010, 02:41:55 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 30, 2010, 03:13:50 PM
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Worse if I don't know where I am going.
My pack without rifle was 23% of my body weight a couple weeks ago for four night stay. I weigh 165. I'd like to drop that down about 5%. I'd never been there before so I think I had a few things I didn't need. I need a lighter tent or I'm going sil-tarp and switching to my Bivy bag and hammock for the next trip there as I found some natural shelter that lends itself well to a bivy/hammock.
-Steve
Post by: halflife65 on September 30, 2010, 03:46:38 PM
20 lbs.
What are using for a sleeping shelter? Great weight for your pack.
I just picked up a tarp to try out - it's something like 11 or 12 ounces and I have a 2 pound bag (although I was thinking of something like a TiGoat really lightweight - like 6 to 9 ounce - bivy to put over the bag to protect against spindrift and rain splatter), so I'm trying to get as light as possible, too. I also have an REI Quarter Dome T2 if I think that I want a tent - it's about 4.5 pounds or so.
Other than my shelter and pack itself (which is rather heavy) I'm really getting the weight down. Probably mid to upper 20s when I consider food and water added to it. (Not counting optics and bow.)
Post by: haugenna on September 30, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Post by: bigbull94 on September 30, 2010, 09:49:59 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 01, 2010, 05:54:16 AM
30 LBS.IS LIGHT FOR A 5 DAY HUNT.A guy can spend some serious cash,trying to go light!!A good bag/bivy is a must for high,snow,rainy type hunts.I used to carry some heavy packs for our 9 day hunts,75#lbs+/-,I wish I WASN'T SO POOR!!!
I've been real lucky at finding at finding deals on my gear.
my pack,tent and sleeping bag cost me $60. buying all of it new would've cost me $600
pack is a badlands 2800
tent is a northface canyonlands (I will always be a tent guy, fire up the pocket rocket for about a minute before getting up makes it real comfy, plus it will keep a pretty good snow at bay)
bag is ?? but it weighs just a hair over 3lbs and keeps me warm down into the teens.
I added more food last night, I figured since my first day or twos camp will only be 5-7 miles without much uphill I might as well eat good. I packed some pre packaged, chicken, tuna, ham...
I really like food!!
does anybody take coffee? whiskey?
I always take a folgers coffee single for each day and a tiny bottle of whiskey to have a quick taste before bed. I know that they'll both work towards dehydration but It's worth it to me.
I added the previous mentioned food, another 20oz of water and a couple more batteries and I'm at 34lbs, I better just leave it alone now.
Post by: high country on October 01, 2010, 06:13:47 AM
Post by: haugenna on October 01, 2010, 07:47:41 AM
Post by: high country on October 01, 2010, 08:24:57 AM
Post by: wastickslinger on October 01, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
30 LBS.IS LIGHT FOR A 5 DAY HUNT.A guy can spend some serious cash,trying to go light!!A good bag/bivy is a must for high,snow,rainy type hunts.I used to carry some heavy packs for our 9 day hunts,75#lbs+/-,I wish I WASN'T SO POOR!!!
I've been real lucky at finding at finding deals on my gear.
my pack,tent and sleeping bag cost me $60. buying all of it new would've cost me $600
pack is a badlands 2800
tent is a northface canyonlands (I will always be a tent guy, fire up the pocket rocket for about a minute before getting up makes it real comfy, plus it will keep a pretty good snow at bay)
bag is ?? but it weighs just a hair over 3lbs and keeps me warm down into the teens.
I added more food last night, I figured since my first day or twos camp will only be 5-7 miles without much uphill I might as well eat good. I packed some pre packaged, chicken, tuna, ham...
I really like food!!
does anybody take coffee? whiskey?
I always take a folgers coffee single for each day and a tiny bottle of whiskey to have a quick taste before bed. I know that they'll both work towards dehydration but It's worth it to me.
I added the previous mentioned food, another 20oz of water and a couple more batteries and I'm at 34lbs, I better just leave it alone now.
Leave it alone, ya right. :chuckle: You know you will pack it and unpack it 5 more times. :chuckle: The worst feeling ever is being 10 miles in and realize you forgot something. Like babywipes. I forgot them 2 years ago. :bash: The are a must.
You getting excited yet? :chuckle:
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 01, 2010, 09:52:58 AM
I can stnad being pretty nasty, If I really need some, I'll be on a 7 mile hike :chuckle:
Post by: wastickslinger on October 01, 2010, 10:19:38 AM
baby wipes are for babys :chuckle:
I can stnad being pretty nasty, If I really need some, I'll be on a 7 mile hike :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: halflife65 on October 01, 2010, 11:59:35 AM
my tent is a megalight minus the pole with ti stakes, bag is western mountaineering badger, stove is a micro primus, pad is a BA rem and I sport a mystery ranch....the pack iss not the lightest, but argueably the best. meals are mtn house and instant coffee. snickers for a snack
Which MR? Still debating on MR, Kifaru, which model, etc. I've been *censored* footing around with this decision for a year. One of these days I just need to take the plunge. I think one of the other guys on here, Actionshooter, uses an MR. He is a tall guy (I saw him at the Puyallup Sportsmans Show last year with his pack goats and he was way taller than me and I'm 6') and said that the NICE was too short for him so he has one of the internal fram packs.
Do you just use a trekking pole for that megalight?
Post by: high country on October 01, 2010, 02:52:29 PM
Post by: halflife65 on October 01, 2010, 02:54:31 PM
my tent is a megalight minus the pole with ti stakes, bag is western mountaineering badger, stove is a micro primus, pad is a BA rem and I sport a mystery ranch....the pack iss not the lightest, but argueably the best. meals are mtn house and instant coffee. snickers for a snack
Which MR? Still debating on MR, Kifaru, which model, etc. I've been *censored* footing around with this decision for a year. One of these days I just need to take the plunge. I think one of the other guys on here, Actionshooter, uses an MR. He is a tall guy (I saw him at the Puyallup Sportsmans Show last year with his pack goats and he was way taller than me and I'm 6') and said that the NICE was too short for him so he has one of the internal fram packs.
Do you just use a trekking pole for that megalight?
Ah, I apologize for the need to censor...oops - not intentional.
Post by: halflife65 on October 01, 2010, 02:56:39 PM
mine is a g 5000 nice, I would suggest you look at the military issue propper packs, they are a good bang for the buck. the MR will fit most people if you take the time to size it, some extremly long torsoed folk may have problems, but I imagine dana has a yoke for that too. the quality and design is great for me, and I have gone through a boat load of packs. I do not need all the fancy schmancy stuff the MR does, but I scored a deal on it and it has made my trips out of the woods with a camp and a buck mucho more comfy.
I really can't find anybody that has anything bad to say about an MR. Even the Kifaru guys say that they're good. Probably like trying to choose between Swaros and Leicas...I'm just about convinced to pull the trigger on one of those.
Post by: actionshooter on October 01, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
I spoke with Dana at length before I ordered it, I wanted the NICE system, but it just isn't an option with my height.
I just got home late last night from chasing muleys for 4 days with the smokepole, no luck, but at least my legs hurt :chuckle:
My pack weighed in at 49#, that included all my gear, spotter, tripod, food, muzzy stuff and a gallon of water
I could cut a little weight, but I can't see going much lighter than that. Normally I wouldn't pack that much water, but I wasn't sure I would find any where I was going, but luckily I did.
Post by: high country on October 01, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 01, 2010, 03:37:06 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 05, 2010, 01:15:46 PM
I was looking at tents and stakes the other day with TESTAR77. He laughed at the tin, Ti and aluminum stake weight differences. 'Oh, not much difference to worry about.' But as we shave off a few ounces here and there, all the sudden we've dropped a few pounds on the total weight. My tent has provision for twelve stakes. I can get away with six if it's not snowing and I tie off to a tree/root for key points.
I hate my sleeping pad. Unfortunately the better ones that are more comfortable and insulate well, weigh more.
-Steve
Post by: BLUEBULLS on October 05, 2010, 01:40:02 PM
Post by: halflife65 on October 05, 2010, 08:44:43 PM
Post by: actionshooter on October 05, 2010, 09:06:32 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 05, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
Gatorade bottles? Can't crush'm thin like you can a 2L bottle.
-Steve
Post by: haugenna on October 05, 2010, 09:20:28 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 06, 2010, 08:18:46 AM
-Steve
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 06, 2010, 08:20:36 AM
Post by: halflife65 on October 06, 2010, 09:33:35 AM
We see lighter tent stakes.. Not using the stuff sack and such. What about lighter tent pole options?
-Steve
I think that there might be carbon fiber options. You might be able to call someone like tarptent or Mountain Laurel Designs, TiGoat or whatever.
Also, there are a lot of options that use trekking poles. This is one of the areas that will have the most effect on the weight I'm carrying so I'm trying to do some research on it (most lightweight stuff is expensive, so it's just stuff that I'll accumulate over time.)
Post by: actionshooter on October 06, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Gatorade bottles? Can't crush'm thin like you can a 2L bottle.Exactly, Whats the point of crushing bottles? I keep re-using them (2).
-Steve
Dang action, 9lbs 3 oz on that pack. Holy hannah that is heavy.I know :o, I have shaved about a pound off of it, but it carries the heavy loads like no other pack I have ever tried.
I have gone thru 7 packs through the years and this is the one for me.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 06, 2010, 03:51:10 PM
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Exactly, Whats the point of crushing bottles? I keep re-using them (2).
I crush an empty for the trek in. Takes up very little space in the pack. Then I fill it once I find/make camp near a water source.
-Steve
Post by: uncoolperson on October 06, 2010, 04:11:59 PM
32oz gatorade bottles
That's what I'm switching to, easier to deal with. Before that been packing platypus "bottles". (though the whiskey still gets packed in a platy)
my pack has two pockets on the sides that are only good for a rain jacket and water bottles, smaller doesn't do much.
I think a Eureka Solitaire is in my future. 2 pounds 8 ounces.
Let me know how that works, when I destroy this eureka spitfire I have (maybe it can be done) I might be up for trying something different.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 06, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
-Steve
Post by: Shootmoore on October 06, 2010, 08:47:24 PM
Shootmoore
Post by: Tony 270 on October 06, 2010, 08:52:31 PM
I'm at 30lbs not counting ammo, gun, binocs. Loaded for roughly 5 days w/ 2 liters of water.
Only 2 liters of water for five days???
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 06, 2010, 08:54:17 PM
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The older I get the more comfort I like.
And you're younger than me! I really don't like my sleep mat. It insulates well, but man it is not comfortable. I like sleeping in a hammock with bivy bag, but in the high country in the later season or really nasty stuff I do like the shelter of a tent. Even if I can't stand up.
I had my pack for four days down to 38 pounds. I'm shootin for 32 pounds.
-Steve
Post by: high country on October 07, 2010, 04:55:53 AM
QuoteExactly, Whats the point of crushing bottles? I keep re-using them (2).
I crush an empty for the trek in. Takes up very little space in the pack. Then I fill it once I find/make camp near a water source.
-Steve
steve Iuse the gatorade bottle too as it is easy to fill. for my camp resivor I use the empty mountain house bags to haul extra water.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 07, 2010, 05:30:21 AM
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Post by: archery288 on November 09, 2010, 07:07:53 AM
Picked mine up last year...
Post by: BLUEBULLS on November 09, 2010, 08:47:54 AM
Is that a 2800?
yep, I like it a lot more than the newer model. The complaints I have on the newer model are... waist strap doesn't go tight enough, buckles are not as high quality, can't fit quite as much gear, doesn't have the top flap to protect from the weather, not as comfortable on the shoulders. I was able to fit all of this gear, plus 2/3's of the meat and head of a 4pt muley in this pack. hauled it 8 miles out very comfortably. I could have fit all of the meat but my dad was there to help with the weight. He used the newer 2800 and he wasn't hunting so he had a little less gear but his pack was stuffed! He says next trip he'll be going back to his older 2800.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 09, 2010, 09:51:27 AM
-Steve