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Title: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Quimby on October 01, 2010, 08:29:47 PM
Okay, so I am a newbie to the big game hunting arena.  I have been big game hunting with my father years ago, but he took care of everything.  Now it is my turn and I am looking for some help.  I do have some experience bird hunting and fishing, but nothing as big as a bear or deer.

So lets say I shoot a deer or bear and need to gut it.  Is there a book, website or past post that would be good for me to look at to get an idea, with pictures, of how this is done.  I have read some stuff on line and in here, but I am a picture fella.  I can't imagine that it is to difficult to gut a big game animal, but I want to ensure I do it right and don't ruin the meat.

Then where the hell do you take the animal.  I will be hunting in GMU 204.  We have some property near Lyman lake road in the Aeneas Valley.

Any and all information/tips is greatly appreciated.  I want to tap into the experience of this group.

Thanks

 
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: USAFpj on October 01, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
Hello- sometimes Youtube has been instrumental in helping me out.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Kain on October 01, 2010, 09:03:03 PM
How To Gut A Deer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEYw6qtiJZY#)
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 01, 2010, 09:12:03 PM
good old youtube :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: halflife65 on October 01, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
Oh my God, you do WHAT to a deer?!?   :puke:
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: shedcrazy on October 01, 2010, 09:22:56 PM
Get a sharp knife, trail and error :chuckle: You'll get it..
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Kain on October 01, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Just dont do this.   

Elk Field Dressing Gut Bag Explosion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMa44W5jNDA#)

This never gets old. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 01, 2010, 09:28:10 PM
i was just going to post it! i decided not to put it on in fear of scaring him out of hunting :chuckle:
even looked it up on youtube how not to gut a deer. even though it is a elk :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: halflife65 on October 01, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Oh, goodness...I forgot about that one.  Really funny...

Watch a couple of videos on HOW to gut a deer and don't worry too much.  It's dead - you're not going to hurt it.  Just take it easy when you make your cut along the stomach so you don't poke the guts, just suck it up and don't be grossed out when you cut around the bunghole and nuts.  Be especially if you don't cut through the brisket (and if you're dragging it you might not want to cut through it - that's just my opinion - other people have their way of doing it and they all work) and you reach up to cut the trachea.  Easy place to cut yourself if you're not careful.

And don't forget the liver and heart.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Kain on October 01, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
 Im gonna feel real bad if this scares you off.  Just lets you know how important it is to make a good shot.

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Dry Heaving Deer Hunter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr4q1RAnt6M#)

KevinPukingonhisFirstBuck.mpeg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dDF4OTVBro#)

Hunter can't handle the smell! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CT1qtpMPaI#)
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Mr T on October 01, 2010, 10:37:28 PM
Just make te decision to have it mounted and the taxidermist will take care of it for you :chuckle:
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Post by: dirty24d on October 01, 2010, 10:46:23 PM
Kain that was a great video, thanks for posting  !!
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: FC on October 01, 2010, 11:58:34 PM
Oh man Kain, those first two are the BEST!!!!

No the elk popping one never does get old...The camera man's sympathy yacking really puts that one at the top!
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on October 02, 2010, 12:08:04 AM
I can not believe how difficult some guys make this out to be.  The guy with the gut shot deer.  I  call them soup deer.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: ICEMAN on October 02, 2010, 05:10:12 AM
Kain, thanks for posting that, I always get a good laugh out of that one....

Quimby, a deer is basically just a big furry trout with legs. You simply remove everything from vent to gills and you are good to go.

Remember to treat the deer like meat you bought from Freddies, keep it cool and out of the sun and get it home.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: alinrut on October 02, 2010, 06:45:45 AM
Kain- those videos are absolutely hilarious, thanks for posting those.
Quimby- the internet is full of information, youtube as you can see and there are even step by step printable instructions.  Don't be scared off by the videos as I think just about every hunter out there has gut shot a deer or elk or animal.  That's how we know not to do this!!!  My first "gutting" experience was on a deer that I had gut shot, I got the stuff on my hands and the rest of the time my uncle was upwind of me telling me how to cut and where to cut as he watched through the binoculars.  The gagging is unstoppable but surviveable along with one of the most memorable experiences you'll ever have hunting.

Bottom line.... welcome back to hunting, best of luck to ya, have fun and make the shot count.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: high country on October 02, 2010, 06:48:35 AM
I will add if you are in a spot that requires a quartering or boneing, you can skip the whole gutting procedure......on deer and elk. the trick is to take them apart w/o cutting through the gut bag, then you can remove everything minus the t-loins, tickle the loins loose through the ribs and carefully cut them free. it saves a ton of time and mess. I like to cut my hide from the underside as it keeps 99% of the hair that gets shaved during skinning out of the equasion. it requires a blunt pointed knife with a curved blade....I use one by victronox, I have seen a swing blade that looks quite similar but much heavier.

I shot this deer on a backcountry foot camping hunt, and boned it out as follows
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2Fgregsphone1209148.jpg&hash=222a8f79c7e603f3d625e6ed9d0e1a2c4c137a90)

skin one side, get the straps clear and go for the gold!(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2Fgregsphone1209150.jpg&hash=29c0cfebb63346db92852124feec5d26ba2669ca)then flip it over and do  the
same again.....carefully(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2Fgregsphone1209151.jpg&hash=04254dde9e243855de2878a4062acdb92bc46e49)
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: high country on October 02, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
sorry that I do not have pics ofthe t-loin removal, but if you know how tasty they are, you will do your level best to not screw them up!
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: MIKEXRAY on October 02, 2010, 07:19:15 AM
The first thing you want to do is contact a butcher either close to your hunting area or close to home. Give them a call & see if they have a weekend or after hour contact number to drop off game. I hunt the east side along Hwy 410 and have a butcher in Enumclaw which is on the way home for me. I have a cell # and it really makes me feel good to get the game hung in a cooler as soon as possible. You can also get pricing etc figured out ahead of time.
I also have a processing kit together, I hunt up high from the road so I have a meat pack all ready to go with game bags, small tarp, water, elbow high gloves, etc. I always carry a good knife, saw, & sharpening stone in my day pack. I have all these items in a big plastic tote always ready to go. The tote is because I quarter my game & haul it inside my camper. I also ice the meat down in the tote before heading to the butcher ( 2 hour drive).
I bought a video called Quarter & de-bone big game, it goes step by step how to gut, quarter, & de-bone and he is very conscientious about cleanliness, cuts of meat , & getting all of the meat. I watch it every year just to get a refresher.
Now is the time to get prepared ! A few steps now will save a lot of aggravation. Mike
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Mr T on October 02, 2010, 08:21:37 AM
Hey mikexray to you have a name of that video that you recommend?
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: high country on October 02, 2010, 08:34:09 AM
there are many camps on how to take care of meat. I have had meat hang in the early archery season when I was scared to death, and it was actually as good or better then some of the late season kills. the key IMO is to get it cooled quickly and keep it dry. I use a time vs temp scale to judge hang times. you can get very creative in ways to keep your meat in the backcountry. I am more afraid of the long truck rides back home where the meat is exposed to the heat of the truck bed then all else combined.

don't be afraid of mold, do not leave bones in big pieces of meat unless you have opened the joints to cool. keep it dry and you will have quality meat for the table.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: MIKEXRAY on October 02, 2010, 10:01:04 AM
MrT  it is called     "Quarter and de-bone big game in the field "    from seneca creek productions ( Outdoor edge ) . It was $ 10 and great info. Pretty much all you need to know I would figure. Mike
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Galpster on October 02, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
There is a thread on here done by axle that shows the process start from finish. One of the best write ups with pics I have seen. PM him, he is always willing to help.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: 1buckdown on October 02, 2010, 11:13:49 PM
the videos were great. can't wait to show my hunting partner that has never shot a deer.  I will video him if he tags one
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Quimby on October 03, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Great info everyone.  Thank you! 

To help combat the smells associated with gutting animals is to take some Vicks Vapor Rub and place a dab or two under or just inside your nostrils.  Works wonders!  Work related trick of the trade.
Title: Re: Deer or Bear Down....now what?
Post by: Alchase on October 04, 2010, 10:24:43 AM
The guy talking in the first video sounds like William Brimly, lol
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